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2023 TV/Fox/Streaming Ratings

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The_Wookie

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Afl World Cup could be people playing for their states

winner is the world champ

Realistically? There are probably two countries with enough pro/semi pro players in Australia that could put together a competitive side - Ireland and oddly enough, Sudan. They wouldnt beat Australia with an oval ball, but theyd be at least competitive against each other.

Everyone else is digging back to ancestral lineage - parents, grandparents etc to even get close.
 

docbrown

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For whatever reason, the AFL doesnt want AFL players involved in its International Cup, preferring to keep it low profile and completely amateur. Im convinced the only reason they even have the Cup is so Brian Clarke doesnt do his own again.

Having spoken to several other international AFL orgs, they dont seem too keen on having AFL players join their ranks for it either.

Id have very much liked to have seen a rugby league type heritage selection process, but no one really gives a damn.
Realistically, could another country come within 100 points of an Australian AFL side playing actual AFL rules and not some hybrid nonsense?
 

sportsnut

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While you all carry on, argue, worry and cry about numbers and how many people were watching what, I'll just sit back and be grateful about was the greatest weekend in Australian Sport.

How sweet it is. Loved it!

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The_Wookie

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Realistically, could another country come within 100 points of an Australian AFL side playing actual AFL rules and not some hybrid nonsense?

Realistically? no.

11 Irish players will spend 2023 on an AFL list. One is on a VFL list.
There are also several Irish coaches in Australia. Former Cavan footballer Nicholas Walsh is head of performance and conditioning at St Kilda. Cork native Mark Kilgallon has just joined West Coast Eagles as strength and conditioning coach and Kevin White is head of performance at North Melbourne.

There were 10 South Sudanese players on AFL lists and more in state competitions.

Like i said, competitive against each other, but an AFL team would wipe the floor with either.
 

docbrown

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An NRL ratings thread discussing the non existence of international afl? Must be the off season.
This thread is full of discussions about AFL ratings. The discussion about international AFL naturally stemmed from discussions about RL internationals.

The more competitive New Zealand, PNG, Fiji, Samoa, Tonga & England get in test matches, the bigger the ratings and their value for RL broadcast details. In some areas we're already more competitive than Union. For example, if you look at the stats, Kiwis vs Kangaroos games are more competitive than Wallabies vs All Blacks games.

All-Blacks vs Wallabies (All time: 124-45-8) - last 20 years (46-9-3)
Kangaroos vs Kiwis (All time: 100-32-3) - last 20 years (29-9-2)

In the past 20 years the All Blacks wins rate has increased from 70 to 79%. Meanwhile the Kangaroos win rate has decreased from 74% to 72%.

It sounds paradoxical but the more the Kangaroos lose, the more interest there will be.
 

Perth Red

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Realistically? no.

11 Irish players will spend 2023 on an AFL list. One is on a VFL list.
There are also several Irish coaches in Australia. Former Cavan footballer Nicholas Walsh is head of performance and conditioning at St Kilda. Cork native Mark Kilgallon has just joined West Coast Eagles as strength and conditioning coach and Kevin White is head of performance at North Melbourne.

There were 10 South Sudanese players on AFL lists and more in state competitions.

Like i said, competitive against each other, but an AFL team would wipe the floor with either.
Surely there’d be plenty with English, greek and Italian grandparents?
We don’t worry about players having visited the country they are playing for.
 

Pneuma

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This thread is full of discussions about AFL ratings. The discussion about international AFL naturally stemmed from discussions about RL internationals.

The more competitive New Zealand, PNG, Fiji, Samoa, Tonga & England get in test matches, the bigger the ratings and their value for RL broadcast details. In some areas we're already more competitive than Union. For example, if you look at the stats, Kiwis vs Kangaroos games are more competitive than Wallabies vs All Blacks games.

All-Blacks vs Wallabies (All time: 124-45-8) - last 20 years (46-9-3)
Kangaroos vs Kiwis (All time: 100-32-3) - last 20 years (29-9-2)

In the past 20 years the All Blacks wins rate has increased from 70 to 79%. Meanwhile the Kangaroos win rate has decreased from 74% to 72%.

It sounds paradoxical but the more the Kangaroos lose, the more interest there will be.
All fine by me Doc. Just haven a laff
 

wain

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This thread is full of discussions about AFL ratings. The discussion about international AFL naturally stemmed from discussions about RL internationals.

The more competitive New Zealand, PNG, Fiji, Samoa, Tonga & England get in test matches, the bigger the ratings and their value for RL broadcast details. In some areas we're already more competitive than Union. For example, if you look at the stats, Kiwis vs Kangaroos games are more competitive than Wallabies vs All Blacks games.

All-Blacks vs Wallabies (All time: 124-45-8) - last 20 years (46-9-3)
Kangaroos vs Kiwis (All time: 100-32-3) - last 20 years (29-9-2)

In the past 20 years the All Blacks wins rate has increased from 70 to 79%. Meanwhile the Kangaroos win rate has decreased from 74% to 72%.

It sounds paradoxical but the more the Kangaroos lose, the more interest there will be.
100%, we need a couple of other countries to challenge Aus, so over time the public perception of ‘no one plays rugby league outside the east coast of Australia’ is changed. Having 4 or 5 countries that can match it at the top is key.

then next step would be growing the domestic comps in a few of the Pacific countries so the other perception of ‘just Aussie born and bred’ can be squashed too.
 

Iamback

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This thread is full of discussions about AFL ratings. The discussion about international AFL naturally stemmed from discussions about RL internationals.

The more competitive New Zealand, PNG, Fiji, Samoa, Tonga & England get in test matches, the bigger the ratings and their value for RL broadcast details. In some areas we're already more competitive than Union. For example, if you look at the stats, Kiwis vs Kangaroos games are more competitive than Wallabies vs All Blacks games.

All-Blacks vs Wallabies (All time: 124-45-8) - last 20 years (46-9-3)
Kangaroos vs Kiwis (All time: 100-32-3) - last 20 years (29-9-2)

In the past 20 years the All Blacks wins rate has increased from 70 to 79%. Meanwhile the Kangaroos win rate has decreased from 74% to 72%.

It sounds paradoxical but the more the Kangaroos lose, the more interest there will be.

That and people ( with ratings boxes) actually watching it
 

Ralphy Twanger

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An afl World Cup without Australian players

hahahahaha

so it’s

1. Ireland vs australia in a modified game
2. Afl World Cup minus australia
3. All australian team that plays nobody
It has very little to do with the AFL, they might throw a little money at it but that’s about it.
 

Perth Red

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100%, we need a couple of other countries to challenge Aus, so over time the public perception of ‘no one plays rugby league outside the east coast of Australia’ is changed. Having 4 or 5 countries that can match it at the top is key.

then next step would be growing the domestic comps in a few of the Pacific countries so the other perception of ‘just Aussie born and bred’ can be squashed too.
We also need the best players to front up for their countries as well.

It would seem in our quest to make Samoa and Tonga more competitive we may have weakened the only nation capable of beating australia. Maybe that was the ARLC‘s plan all along lol
 

docbrown

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100%, we need a couple of other countries to challenge Aus, so over time the public perception of ‘no one plays rugby league outside the east coast of Australia’ is changed. Having 4 or 5 countries that can match it at the top is key.

then next step would be growing the domestic comps in a few of the Pacific countries so the other perception of ‘just Aussie born and bred’ can be squashed too.
Well think about the World Cup last year - not the pool games just the finals. Samoa only beat Tonga by 2 points then beat England by 1. It could just as easily been Tonga or England in the final game against Australia. NZ only beat Fiji in the Quarter Final by 6 points. I think they were tied until the last 10 minutes. It could just have easily been Australia vs Fiji in the Semi and NZ out after Week 1. In the Semis Australia only beat NZ by 2 points. An act of randomness here and there and it could have been a NZ vs Samoa final. And I'd argue that the margin over Samoa in the WC final against Australia was only what it was because Samoa were physically wiped by the intense extra time final against England the week before. Before the last 15 minutes Samoa had pulled it back to 18-6.

I'd argue that with regular matches those six teams - Australia, New Zealand, England, Samoa, Tonga & Fiji are all within 1 or 2 tries of beating other on any given day. Tonga could win the upcoming series against England.
 
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