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2024 Squad List

Auntie.Gerald

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Thanks SF

my info was some MOs have a price for the club and price for the player

ie in the clubs favour hence them not wanting to agree to the final year which is a MO

It will be a fascinating one...............if Birdy does his knee again he is goooonnneee and the contract for 2025 should reflect that
 

hewi

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St George Illawarra Dragons NRL roster deep dive: Which positions need filling, which recruits they can target​

The future of talented fullback Tyrell Sloan is at the top of a host of names who have question marks around their future with the Dragons. In a roster deep dive, see what positions need filling and which recruits the club should target.
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NRL: St. George Illawarra Dragons coach Shane Flanagan and captain Ben Hunt front the media after their round 5 loss to the Newcastle Knights.
Just under a fortnight ago, St George Illawarra decided to open talks to extend Tyrell Sloan’s contract.
But the talented 21-year-old’s stocks are now less clear after coach Shane Flanagan moved him from fullback to wing at halftime in the Dragons’ 30-10 loss to Newcastle on Friday night.
The major coaching decision was backed by Phil Gould, who declared Sloan is a “defensive target” for rival teams.
“I love Tyrell Sloan, I think he’s a real exciting player,’’ Gould said on Nine.
“Absolutely (time is on his side). I wouldn’t be giving up on him.
“It’s hard for young kids coming into first grade, particularly when you start to get targeted by experienced players.
“But there comes a time where you’ve got to stand up for yourself defensively.
“Everyone has to play both sides of the ball, in attack and defence.
Tyrell Sloan was moved to the wing against Newcastle. Picture: NRL Photos

Tyrell Sloan was moved to the wing against Newcastle. Picture: NRL Photos
“He’s an extraordinary attacking talent, but at that moment he’s a little bit of a target whenever they (opposition) see him on the line, they don’t miss him.
“And he’s got to learn to stand up to that.’’
There is a willingness from the Dragons coaching staff to continue to help develop the gifted ballrunner’s game.
However, he isn’t the only key roster recruit that Saints are focusing on.
In the wake of Zac Lomax’s impending departure at the end of the season, the Dragons still have a host of players fighting for their futures.
Jack de Belin is yet to be offered a new deal and will have to take a significant pay cut if he is to remain a Dragon.
The Dragons still have about 10 spots left to fill on their roster. They do so armed with more than $3 million worth of salary cap space. By contrast a host of clubs have a large chunk of their squad already linked in next year including; Tigers (26), Titans (26), Warriors (26), Bulldogs (25), Manly (24) and Sharks (24).


Players signed in 2024​

19: Dragons
20: Cowboys, Rabbitohs, Panthers, Roosters,
21: Storm
22: Knights
23: Eels, Broncos
24: Sea Eagles, Dolphins
25: Raiders
26: Sharks, Warriors, Bulldogs
28: Titans
29: Tigers

* According to NRL.com

It comes as the Dragons remain locked in talks with Scott Fulton to join the club in recruitment.
The Dragons are confident Jadyn Su’A is close to extending his deal with the parties continuing talks since the club put in a contract offer before the start of the season.
Jack Bird’s future depends on a June 30 mutual option. Either Bird or the Dragons can extend his time at the club by a further 12 months at differing values.
At least one if not both of the Feagai brothers – Mat and Max - will leave the club either before the mid-season transfer window ends or at the end of the season. The Dragons may be keen to retain Mat although neither have played first grade this year.
Parramatta had been chasing young outside back Savelio Tamale but Lomax’s potential switch to the Eels could curtail those plans. The Dragons are yet to offer Tamala a new deal.
Others including Ben Murdoch-Masila, Jesse Marschke and Dan Russell are facing battles to be retained.
Tom Eisenhuth has impressed since joining from Melbourne and could be given another season while a one-year deal is on the table for Michael Molo which is expected to be accepted.
Outside backs Corey Allan and Cody Ramsay have top 30 years next season despite being unavailable this year.
The Dragons have a number of positions that need improvement. Picture: Scott Gardiner/Getty Images

The Dragons have a number of positions that need improvement. Picture: Scott Gardiner/Getty Images
TARGET AREAS
The Dragons have a range of positions which need to be filled.
A half, hooker, prop and a player who can play fullback are among the major requirements.
St George Illawarra is expected to offer Panthers outside back Sunia Turuva a deal, which will be hard to knock back given Penrith’s tight salary cap situation.
Discussions with Mitch Kenny have ended now he has re-committed to the Panthers.
Wallaby Jordan Petaia has met with Flanagan but any deal is a long way away from being reached with no formal offer given.
They are aware of potential unrest involving Nelson Asofa-Solomona and will need to wait to see what contracted players end up leaving their clubs like they did with Luciano Leilua, Raymond Faitala-Mariner and Christian Tuipulotu.
Potential November 1 targets for 2026 includes; Kotoni Staggs, Selwyn Cobbo, Jeremy Marshall-King, Reece Robson, Reuben Cotter, Wayde Egan and Stefano Utoikamanu.
Expect them to also closely monitor star Melbourne duo Harry Grant and Ryan Papenhuyzen.
The Dragons have been linked with a host of players but realistically they missed out on one genuine top line talent – Addin Fonua-Blake.
The Dragons were confident they would get their man before Christmas with talks well progressed to make Founa-Blake the highest paid player at the club before the Sharks swooped in late.
They also had talks with Connor Tracey and Josh Curran before the pair opted to join the Bulldogs while Ronald Volkman was signed but injury curtailed his stint at the club before it even started.
Dylan Egan is a future Dragon the club has high hopes for. Picture: Supplied

Dylan Egan is a future Dragon the club has high hopes for. Picture: Supplied
THE FUTURE
The Dragons have high hopes for back-rower Dylan Egan who will join the top squad next year. He does so alongside Hamish Stewart. Stewart, a middle forward, has an option in his favour to remain at the club until the end of 2027.
St George SG Ball products Loko Jnr Pasifiki Tonga and Finau Latu have top 30 deals for next year. The young forwards have led a reviltied under-19 St George side to the SG Balls finals for the first time since 2013.
CLEAN-OUT
Flanagan wasted no time in putting a broom through the underperforming club as soon as he arrived. Jayden Sullivan (Wests Tigers), Zane Musgrove (Warrington Wolves), Jaiyden Hunt (Broncos), Paul Turner (Featherstone Rovers) were all fringe players who were released early from their contracts. Talatau Amone was de-registered by the NRL. Other under-performing players have also been put on notice
 
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Michael Molo
Read his stats , has something like the most ms or post contact ms per carry in the forward pack (stand corrected). That includes his bigger brother who has just been extended. Flanagan just wont give Mike decent minutes, same as Vili Fifita.
 

Draginzaaar

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Read his stats , has something like the most ms or post contact ms per carry in the forward pack (stand corrected). That includes his bigger brother who has just been extended. Flanagan just wont give Mike decent minutes, same as Vili Fifita.
Last game M. Molo 7 PCM Frank 65 PCM.
 

Lennyb

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Read his stats , has something like the most ms or post contact ms per carry in the forward pack (stand corrected). That includes his bigger brother who has just been extended. Flanagan just wont give Mike decent minutes, same as Vili Fifita.
Way too much hype on fafita.
Flanno gave him is debut to see if he can lift in cup and maintain it.
Time will tell.
 

Dragon David

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Who is the clever man who let Schiller go from the club??
Both him or Bostock would be welcome additions to our team.
Totally agree thebigredv. Our guys in development/pathways/coaching should make sure we keep the best of the best in our current crop of juniors otherwise we will be saying the same about the next lot to leave us when they are killing it for other clubs.
 

TheRev

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Frank is a great re-signing, there are so few middles out there, if we had to go and replace him + find our alpha prop.. We would be in strife.. We still need that Nelson/afb, but it is what it is.

I don't hate mmolo, but with kids like Tonga, Latu, Ackers, Stewart etc.. Its an easy choice to use mmolo and corics spots.. Not sure about AlexT, he's a rly rly good reserve grader and would not be out of place as a bench prop in 1st grade next year.. But we need spots for our other juniors, so flanno has to make a call there..

FIfita I think is way over hyped.. Big body with seemingly 0 motor and plenty of errors... May just need a few more years. But that's a long wait with him holding a top 30 spot while we have so many other forwards coming thru.. He is probably 3yrs older than the others and we need him to hold his own as a 1st grade bench prop soon.
 
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Totally agree thebigredv. Our guys in development/pathways/coaching should make sure we keep the best of the best in our current crop of juniors otherwise we will be saying the same about the next lot to leave us when they are killing it for other clubs.
It's been happening for years. When people complain, they will say "we can't keep them all". The problem is that we keep the wrong ones.
 

Parko1310

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Read his stats , has something like the most ms or post contact ms per carry in the forward pack (stand corrected). That includes his bigger brother who has just been extended. Flanagan just wont give Mike decent minutes, same as Vili Fifita.
The game isn't played on the stats sheet, not to mention his stats still aren't even good. Stats don't account for his softness in contact, him getting driven back when he takes a hit-up, him being caught rushing up past the rest of the line and leaving a hole up the middle, his slow lateral movement. At some point you've gotta stop reading the stats and taking them as gospel, they're often incredibly misleading
 

Wolfgang90

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The game isn't played on the stats sheet, not to mention his stats still aren't even good. Stats don't account for his softness in contact, him getting driven back when he takes a hit-up, him being caught rushing up past the rest of the line and leaving a hole up the middle, his slow lateral movement. At some point you've gotta stop reading the stats and taking them as gospel, they're often incredibly misleading

Which one of our props are you describing? :laughing:
 

Auntie.Gerald

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Has anyone watched this from the weekend?

OMG Tamale the poor kid..................just had a shocker in defence...........watch the last one where he gives up the chase so early ! didnt help at all.
 
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AyiosYiorgos

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Has anyone watched this from the weekend?

OMG Tamale the poor kid..................just had a shocker in defence...........watch the last one where he gives up the chase so early ! didnt help at all.
Very lazy when the ball passes him, doesn't put effort, the first try he could have potentially stopped it, if he showed some urgency to be where the ball was.. 2nd try rushes out of the line... 3rd try too much back peddling giving the attackers too much time.. Last try no urgency, just jogging along ( i assume not injured)

Also if you watched last night game Canberra v Parra, the try that Savage scored when he went straight through, watch Blaize Talagi, too lazy on the inside and then jogged along watching Savage, whats wrong with all these young players they give up as soon as the ball is passed them, they should watch Tommy Dearden not giving up...
 

Wolfgang90

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Very lazy when the ball passes him, doesn't put effort, the first try he could have potentially stopped it, if he showed some urgency to be where the ball was.. 2nd try rushes out of the line... 3rd try too much back peddling giving the attackers too much time.. Last try no urgency, just jogging along ( i assume not injured)

Also if you watched last night game Canberra v Parra, the try that Savage scored when he went straight through, watch Blaize Talagi, too lazy on the inside and then jogged along watching Savage, whats wrong with all these young players they give up as soon as the ball is passed them, they should watch Tommy Dearden not giving up...

Young players take time to learn, especially those that have succeeded through their attacking talents.

Dearden was a broncos discard before the found his feet at the cowboys, he's had numerous seasons at nrl level.
 

Auntie.Gerald

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or maybe I looked at this scenario all wrong

Do Newcastle have some gun halves and backs in reserves ?

Are we looking?
 

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