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2024 TV and Streaming Ratings Discussion

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Not sure having 'reach' numbers change that.
Look at Thursday night's FTA ratings table.

AFL in 3rd with Reach 1.794, Audience 598. NRL in 4th with Reach 1.650, Audience 721.

Ranked by Audience, NRL would be 4th, AFL would be 11th.

These tables, and the accompanying write-ups on media sites, function like headlines. Week after week, Reach figures will project an image of AFL supremacy.
 

Wb1234

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Look at Thursday night's FTA ratings table.

AFL in 3rd with Reach 1.794, Audience 598. NRL in 4th with Reach 1.650, Audience 721.

Ranked by Audience, NRL would be 4th, AFL would be 11th.

These tables, and the accompanying write-ups on media sites, function like headlines. Week after week, Reach figures will project an image of AFL supremacy.
Nobody is noticing
 

Colk

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Will you notice if sportsindustry declares AFL the most watched sport in Oz at the end of the year?

Of course he will. Btw this reach argument is bull crap. Ridiculous really.

Overall in this instance though it only really matters how much TV is willing to spend on it. You could have as many viewers as you want and have more viewers than your competitor but if your competitor is getting paid more then you’re losing the contest. Hopefully we get a better deal next time.
 

The_Wookie

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Nope

neither will pvl or the tv networks

ive been posting updates from someone else which shows nrl leading by close to ten million

afl ratings are a joke

Youve been posting updates from someone taking wild guesses at information he doesnt have too.
 

taste2taste

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I've noticed a huge jump in.number's on NRL YouTube videos for match highlights.

When I started watching them 5 years ago games would have 3k views now they have 100k+ views.

Is this because youtube now count view's differently? Or has the audience grown by that much ?
 

Canard

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I've noticed a huge jump in.number's on NRL YouTube videos for match highlights.

When I started watching them 5 years ago games would have 3k views now they have 100k+ views.

Is this because youtube now count view's differently? Or has the audience grown by that much ?
I'd say that Youtube is most people's number one source of video in 2024, and has been growing.
 

The_Wookie

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While an overhaul of the Australian ratings system has been deemed necessary by most in the TV industry, many are branding the new method as “confusing,” “misleading,” “inflated” and “skewed in favour of Seven Network”.

In what was the biggest shake-up in two decades, in February the TV ratings firm OzTAM implemented the VOZ Total TV audience model and began prioritising total viewership across all cities — including streaming numbers — as opposed to linear numbers across the five metro cities.

Critics claim the new method is mainly benefiting Seven.

“Seven pushed for this new ratings system because they knew they’d come out looking better than Nine,” one TV insider told Saturday Confidential.

“At the time they argued that it makes all free-to-air TV look better so they convinced Nine and Ten to come along for the ride.

“Many people in the industry think the figures are a joke.

“The fact is, Nine is killing it in 2024. They’ve had their strongest first quarter ever, but you wouldn’t know it from the new ratings numbers.”

The new ratings system has resulted in yet another stoush between Nine and Seven about who is the number one network.

Two weeks ago, Seven just stopped short of claiming Total TV commercial share. Nine yesterday claimed pole position.

“Our news programs — across breakfast, afternoons and evenings — are overwhelmingly beating their opposition in Australia’s three largest markets of Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane (where the vast majority of advertising dollars are spent),” a Nine spokesman said.

In the new ratings system, there’s the option to determine “Total TV National Reach”, which shows data from viewers who watched at least one minute of a program, or 15 seconds online.

Using this ranking, MAFS 2024 debut had a 2.451 million total reach, while Idol had 1.784 million and Survivor 1.126 million.

In comparison, in 2023, MAFS debuted to 840,000 metro viewers and in 2022 it’s first episode lured 869,000 viewers.

In 2023, the Idol reboot had 413,000 metro viewers.

“It’s remarkable how last year’s flop Australian Idol is suddenly a runaway success for Seven,” another insider said.

“MAFS is the number one show on TV, and that’s one thing the new ratings system doesn’t change.

“But for other shows, you have to look deeper to get the real story.

“Nine News is winning Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane this year.

“That’s where the crucial advertising dollars are.

“Those are the numbers media buyers care about.

“But Seven wins the new ratings system thanks to Perth and regional markets.”

While media advertising buyers, TV executives and media writers agree the previous system was not reflecting the way we watch TV, thanks to live streaming and more people ditching aerial connections, many claim the new way of distributing the data is experiencing teething problems.

As a result, media agencies are still 12 months away from adopting the new ratings system.

“The average is a better reflection of actual audience,” one advertising source said.

“But the reach is a joke and ridiculous.

“Advertisers still just care about east coast numbers — Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane and that’s where Nine is dominant.”

According to TV Tonight’s David Knox, it is Seven CEO James Warburton who “championed” overhauling the ratings.

“And it may well be his legacy gift to the industry,” he said.

“There are some clashing interests however, with Seven, having acquired the Prime network, focused on national results, and Nine focused on their five city markets.

“The new reporting to media also snubs separate multichannel results, city-by-city results and Foxtel numbers, which is not great for transparency.

“If you’re not talking about ratings performance, for better or worse, the risk is people will care less about their shows and continue to migrate to streaming giants.

“Be careful what you wish for.”
Media analyst Steve Allen asked for critics to be patient with the new system.

“There have been quite a few delays with VOS because nowhere in the world has this been done,” Mr Allen said.

“It has taken a significant amount of work to ensure there wasn’t duplication, for example.”

 
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Does it matter what some random posts on twitter?
The ratings tables on media websites are not posts from a random on Twitter. This is official data, copyright OzTAM and Regional TAM 2024. Previously ordered by Average, now ordered by Reach.

What matters is what advertisers see as an important metric, and what they are willing to pay for, surely?
Advertisers are human. They make value judgements. Their decisions can be influenced by perception and preference. There is a bottom line but they are not completely objective. Nor are they the fount of all wisdom.

English RL fans are routinely bombarded with RU-themed ads. Even though these are more likely to turn us against the advertised product. It happens because agencies in London 1) think they're sending "Rugby" content to "Rugby" fans, and 2) are stuffed full of Union supporters keen to promote their favourite sport.

When Poms visit the Fox League site why are we faced with big ads down both sides of the page inviting us to "Stream AFL overseas"?
 

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