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2025 Crowd Watch

newc18

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First week of the finals and there's one game in Sydney to look forward to. Should be great.

Oh wait a minute, the ground holds how many???

I might just go watch a NSW Cup finals match instead.
I get the feeling the rules will be changed very soon. They just need to make it that a stadium needs to be 25k minimum to host a finals game. That also puts the pressure on clubs like Cronulla and Manly to find ways to increase capacity of their stadiums if they want to play finals games there.
 

Wb1234

Immortal
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Leichhardt oval says hello
Abdo saying they will have a review in the off season is hilarious when he realises how many other grounds this will apply too

Reacting to one rothfield article isn’t how the ceo should be acting

Building sites are always ugly till they are finished it’s amazing they’ve managed for so long

They tried kogarah and it didn’t work so if they won’t travel to the adjoining area why would they travel regularly to Allianz

If they are using 25k as the criteria then gong won’t count, nor will kogarah, Campbelltown, lo, Brookie and Canberra just scrapes in
 

jim_57

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Abdo saying they will have a review in the off season is hilarious when he realises how many other grounds this will apply too

Reacting to one rothfield article isn’t how the ceo should be acting

Building sites are always ugly till they are finished it’s amazing they’ve managed for so long

They tried kogarah and it didn’t work so if they won’t travel to the adjoining area why would they travel regularly to Allianz

If they are using 25k as the criteria then gong won’t count, nor will kogarah, Campbelltown, lo, Brookie and Canberra just scrapes in

I’d go 20k week 1. 4*/17 clubs affected.

*Wollongong is still listed as 22k capacity even though sellouts get under 20k.
*These days I reckon Tigers would play at Commbank anyway.

So maybe only 2.
 
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parrawentyfan

Juniors
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From memory Allianz is being repaired now so is off limits. If not Shark Park would have had to be Kogarah, Parramatta or Homebush. That said, please no Shark Park.
 

Billythekid

First Grade
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I’d go 20k week 1. 4*/17 clubs affected.

*Wollongong is still listed as 22k capacity even though sellouts get under 20k.
*These days I reckon Tigers would play at Commbank anyway.

So maybe only 2.
Tigers and dragons should be playing at those bigger stadiums anyway for finals. They’ve both shown their fans are willing to show up to those stadiums in big numbers for big games and it’s not like they even really have 1 particular home ground.

Its really just the sharks and manly and who knows maybe the NRL acting on this might be the push needed to get brookvale enough of an upgrade to cover this.
 

T to the T

Juniors
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750
Abdo saying they will have a review in the off season is hilarious when he realises how many other grounds this will apply too

Reacting to one rothfield article isn’t how the ceo should be acting

Building sites are always ugly till they are finished it’s amazing they’ve managed for so long

They tried kogarah and it didn’t work so if they won’t travel to the adjoining area why would they travel regularly to Allianz

If they are using 25k as the criteria then gong won’t count, nor will kogarah, Campbelltown, lo, Brookie and Canberra just scrapes in
Who cares if Kogarah, Campbelltown and Brookvale can't hold a final? Sydney has SFS, Homebush and Parramatta which hold over 25k. I think every city in the comp has a stadium over 25k. I'd like to see 25k enshrined, 20k isn't enough for a finals game either.
 

drcmuch

Juniors
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318
Had a look at the NRL era crowds on prelim final weekend. Smallest total was 55,260 in covid affected 2021. Biggest was 115,999 in 2010 for Dragons v Tigers at Accor and Titans (!) v Roosters at Suncorp. Depending on the results this weekend, we could test either of those limits this year.
 

Speedy Gonzales

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We’ve never played a home semi there have we? It’s always been Allianz or Accor. That said it still holds 50% more than Shark Park.
Tigers v Cowboys week 1 - ANZ stadium Attendance: 26,463

Tigers v Brisbane week 2 - Sydney Football Stadium Attendance: 36,563

Tigers V Roosters week 1 - Sydney Football Stadium Attendance: 33,315

Tigers v Dragons week 1 - ANZ Stadium Attendance: 45,631

Tigers v warriors week 2 - Sydney Football Stadium Attendance: 27,109

Those are all our finals home matches. Never played at Leichhardt or Campbelltown

We’ve been way too shit lately but I’d imagine we’d use Commbank these days unless we play a big draw card then it’d be Accor
 
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ouwet

Bench
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Unfortunately with one day left it doesn't look like AAMI park will sell out or even get close to selling out.
 

yakstorm

First Grade
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We’ve been way too shit lately but I’d imagine we’d use Commbank these days unless we play a big draw card then it’d be Accor
I reckon when the Tigers finally get back into the Finals, they'll comfortably draw 30K+ to whoever they play. The club has a lot of fans who have been starved of finals football, so even if they drew the Titans or Cowboys, I'd expect them to turn out in big numbers, similar to the Bulldogs last year.

I’d go 20k week 1. 4*/17 clubs affected.

*Wollongong is still listed as 22k capacity even though sellouts get under 20k.
*These days I reckon Tigers would play at Commbank anyway.

So maybe only 2.
I don't see why we can't be a bit more nuanced with the rules when it comes to Sydney clubs. Honestly, there are really 3 clubs in Sydney who's fan bases are very regionalised and don't travel in big numbers, they being Cronulla, Manly & Penrith. Of those three, the later is getting a new 25K stadium so isn't really a concern in the foreseeable future, however for the likes of Manly & Cronulla you don't want to force them to the likes of Allianz or CommBank if they're drawing teams like the Titans or Cowboys in Week 1.

So why don't we have something like, if it's Sydney v out of town, so long as the ground can hold 18K+ it can host a Final? This means if Dragons want to host a game at WIN, they can do it, and potentially Wests could host one at a revamped Campbelltown, although as I mentioned earlier, I think they'd draw 30K+ when they make it back to finals. Manly would be able to have round 1 games at Brookvale, whilst Cronulla would also be able to host once they get their ground capacity back up to 18K.

For Sydney v Sydney, these need to be played at a ground that holds 25K+.
 

i0Nic

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Staggering amount left. Time for the NRL to just start issuing redemption codes to schools to fill the joint.
Hm that's not a good look. Are tickets too expensive? AFL does $35 tickets for their finals including the GWS one, how much are the storm tickets? Would be a fail if it's anything less than 22k
 

PARRA_FAN

Coach
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Unfortunately with one day left it doesn't look like AAMI park will sell out or even get close to selling out.

I'm sure they'll get a bit over 20,000 but I dont know what it is with the non Prelim final games there they just get over 20,000 or under it.
 

Wb1234

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I reckon when the Tigers finally get back into the Finals, they'll comfortably draw 30K+ to whoever they play. The club has a lot of fans who have been starved of finals football, so even if they drew the Titans or Cowboys, I'd expect them to turn out in big numbers, similar to the Bulldogs last year.


I don't see why we can't be a bit more nuanced with the rules when it comes to Sydney clubs. Honestly, there are really 3 clubs in Sydney who's fan bases are very regionalised and don't travel in big numbers, they being Cronulla, Manly & Penrith. Of those three, the later is getting a new 25K stadium so isn't really a concern in the foreseeable future, however for the likes of Manly & Cronulla you don't want to force them to the likes of Allianz or CommBank if they're drawing teams like the Titans or Cowboys in Week 1.

So why don't we have something like, if it's Sydney v out of town, so long as the ground can hold 18K+ it can host a Final? This means if Dragons want to host a game at WIN, they can do it, and potentially Wests could host one at a revamped Campbelltown, although as I mentioned earlier, I think they'd draw 30K+ when they make it back to finals. Manly would be able to have round 1 games at Brookvale, whilst Cronulla would also be able to host once they get their ground capacity back up to 18K.

For Sydney v Sydney, these need to be played at a ground that holds 25K+.
No chance some teams get home games in week one and others have to move it clubs won’t allow that

Sharks v roostersa wouldn’t have been played at Allianz anyway it would’ve been Accor or commbank
 

PARRA_FAN

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Will be interesting to see if crowds can keep growing next year.

Penrith still won’t have a home and it’s possible bulldogs crowds might drop a bit. But If Parra do well they will get a 23/24k average, Souths could dramatically increase their crowds with a top 8 finish.

Based on what?

I do agree with the Parra one
 

Steel Saints

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The screenshot if anyone is after it.

From a cost perspective, the cheapest way to increase the capacity at Brookvale would be to convert the hill to seating. Even if the seating only had the same elevation and depth as the Bob Fulton stand, it would convert the hill from it's roughly 5K capacity now to around 7K without any need for a second level / etc.

Arguably they could build a deeper stand if they wanted to, which might allow them to squeeze another 1,000 into there.

If money wasn't an issue, you'd be replacing the Jane Try / Fulton-Menzies / Ken Arthurson stands first. They are really inefficiently built, and the Fulton-Menzies stand in particular barely holds anyone.

It looks like a relatively simple design. Build 13,000 concourse seats, which would wrap around all four sides of the ground. Already 3,000 has been built. Then behind the concourse, on the east and west sides, build a 3,500 grandstand, which ends up looking like a second tier.

For cost effective measures, they don't need to build a roof at the southern end. Perhaps leave it open like Townsville stadium. Down the track, to expand Brookies capacity, they could build a second tier with a roof at the southern end. Or i think it's called the Lyons-Menzies Stand.
 
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