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ozbash

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Average age of Warriors team v Sharks.

And the oldest player, Luck - 30, didnt last long.

Probably the youngest team in the comp ?

As far as I'm concerned, its not the young guys letting the side down, its the seniors..
 

ozbash

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Mateo, and to a degree Mannering. I think there is too much emphasis on babysitting and not enough on direction.

Cant blame Luck, he didnt last..
 
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Ideally Maloney would be calling the shots at the end there and Johnson wouldn't even be allowed to touch the ball. But this is what happens when you have two halves that think they can run the show. There needs to be a dominant half who is by default the go to man in these situations. Age is certainly a factor here.
 

vvvrulz

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Mateo, and to a degree Mannering. I think there is too much emphasis on babysitting and not enough on direction.

Don't agree with that, these guys led us to the Grand Final last year. In most of our losses this year its been 10 minutes of atrocious defense that cost us which to me mainly falls on the Fish and JRo with some of the youngsters also falling off in intensity.

They're only kids, give it a bit of time and things will come right. That was *almost* a complete performance last night. I still think we'll make the eight and cause a few surprises.
 

Aragorn

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Inu cost us the game against the Storm - 2 points
Manu cost us against the Tigers and Storm - 4 points
Jro I felt cost us in the game against the doggies - 2 points

Thats 8 points which we could/should have banked.

14 +8 = 22 points we could/should be on = 2nd place.

Last nights game I will give that to the inexperience of Johnson = 2points.
 

Penrose Warrior

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League teams have 17 players in them, chaps. This 'so and so cost us this game' holds no weight for me. Other players made errors in those games mentioned, just not at the same times.
 

hitman82

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A more PC way to put it would be "player x's actions directly contributed to our loss, which may or may not have otherwise occurred".

...actually M.V, I seem to recall you blamed Omar for our loss just the other day? I guess you were always going to get a bit feral on whatever poor guy replaced your love interest though.
 

NZ Warrior

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A more PC way to put it would be "player x's actions directly contributed to our loss, which may or may not have otherwise occurred".

...actually M.V, I seem to recall you blamed Omar for our loss just the other day? I guess you were always going to get a bit feral on whatever poor guy replaced your love interest though.

MV just hates Omar, because he's gone mainstream, playing for 1st grade side. Now everyone will be wearing Omar masks and know who he is, maaaannnn!
 

hitman82

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MV just hates Omar, because he's gone mainstream, playing for 1st grade side. Now everyone will be wearing Omar masks and know who he is, maaaannnn!

I thought it was because Omar wears non-nut gripping, relaxed fit jeans... in BLUE!
 

ozenzud

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I recall the comment from the commentators that only Maloney in the warriors backline hadn't come the Toyota Cup. What is that comp, 3 or 4 years old?

The petulance of youth was pretty obvious to all Saturday night.

For the sharks, who was it that led the comeback, old tough head, Jeremy Smith.

We can all say Johnson went for the big play rather than the percentage play, but youth will do that. Thats why experience matters. I see he acknowledges it. He is one game and a lot more experienced as a result. The team will get better from this. But its next season that they will make it count I think. If they make finals it will be by the skin of their teeth and you can't get far from there under this new system.

I think our coach is as equally green as the players too!
 

Iafeta

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No doubt, but I thought that was apparently obvious to all that he was going to be green at NRL level. Personally, I think he probably can be quite a good coach, he's learning there are a lot of differences in structure and style in the NRL compared to the ESL, and that its different coaching an all-star line up versus a team of junior all-stars.

Experience is critical. The beauty of all this is though if we keep these players, and I dare say the coach as well, they should all be learning a lot of lessons. While our record the past few weeks isn't great, we've at times dominated Melbourne, the Tigers, and the Sharks, and obviously wiped the floor with Penrith. There are enough good signs. Its those times when the momentum changes or you have to take the less glamourous option that we get found out a bit, which is the imperfection of youth. I think for the most part its developing, I mean aside from Johnson's last two plays, his play the last two weeks has been refreshing in that its been very measured - his kicking game has been outstanding. I still think over the last two weeks you'd be hard pressed to find back-to-back Warriors performances that had such control in the kicking game as those games. I'm also not surprised with some of the defensive stats, if you watch the NYC there's gaps galore (Slaimankhel for example would never have seen such a tight defensive line in NYC) so this is a massive step up for these guys.

The great thing though is if we keep with all these guys they'll go from young players with a touch of naiivity but extreme talent to young guys with a future with experience with a load of talent.
 

_addict

Juniors
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You're remarkably consiliatory Feka. I dare say there are some promising signs there, but was the expectation we had at the start of the year so far amiss?
 

beefstew

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You're remarkably consiliatory Feka. I dare say there are some promising signs there, but was the expectation we had at the start of the year so far amiss?


I think most of us saw the talent coming through last year, and thought success is a formality this year, but forgot that raw talent is just that...raw.

Whats happened so far this season is probably not such a bad thing....having such an inexperienced group of players, they are finding out together
exactly what it takes to win games in the NRL, and that a bad 5 minutes can lose a game. If we some how make the finals this season, these
heartbreaking losses will be invaluable experience.
 

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