2nd ODI: Australia v West Indies at Perth Feb 3, 2013

[Xfactor1979]

lets telegraph the game plan:

attack with starc

no idea what to do with the rest

 

[vvvrulz]

The very reason we are debating this much over that *tiny spot* for me means that there is no conclusive proof to overturn the decision. Conclusive being the key word, and the original decision was not out.

 

[Iafeta]

How in the f**k does this review system work?

50% of the ball can be hitting the stumps according to hawkeye but that isn't enough to overturn an LBW decision, yet pretty much no audio and absolutely no hot spot can overturn a not out for a catch.

Needs to be changed ASAP

There needs to be a whole heap of changes - firstly, the appeals should be with the umpires (including third umpire). Its currently a strategic tool, and that was never why it was brought in. Secondly, the idea is you are supposed to have conclusive evidence of a poor decision, anthen you overturn it - if there's doubt it remains with the umpire. There are some maverick third umpires who are forgetting that, and looking extraordinarily hard to find reasons to overturn the on field umpire. Thirdly, if it stays with the teams holding the appeal, if they're trying to get an LBW overturned, if the ball is shown to be hitting the wickets and the decision goes as 'umpires call', the team shouldn't lose a wicket for this. Particularly if its the bowling team. They haven't made a mistake, they're however going with the mentality of the umpire being sole judge I guess.

 

[Chicken_Hunter]

I agree with Danish, that glare was constantly changing. The ball went past and coincidently there was a hotspot, but the very next frame that hotspot was gone.. Hotspots just dont disappear like that, they stay there for a few seconds.

I wonder if any training actually goes in to understanding the technology? For it to be a genuine nick, the hotspot will stay hot for a little while and not disappear like glare.

 

[hineyrulz]

Maxwell gets pollard and carries on like an absolute f**kwit.

 

[Xfactor1979]

hot spot is the worst technology

 

[JasonE]

BS had Pollard in two minds, he didn't know whether to hit him for 4 or 6 there.

 

[vvvrulz]

Oh great, Pollard throws his wicket away for free to the worst bowler there. The Callypso Collapso in full swing again dodgy umpiring or not.

 

[Danish]

Disagree.

A mark comes up just after the ball goes through.

A mark also disappears at the same time, as well as another one appearing 2-3 frames before the ball even gets there.

It was the sun shining off his gloves and absolutely nothing to do with the ball

 

[JW]

MaxDerp the freight train now averaging under 100 with a superb display of straight break bowling.

Will clean up in India.

 

[Horrie Is God]

Starcy the non Shitchell Mitchell??

:lol: That'll do me..

The Big Show Freight Train X Factor Gerry MaxDerp gets ODI pole Number 2..

That looked like his magic stock ball again..

It's just about unplayable..:sarcasm:

 

[8Ball]

This performance is going to justify Maxwell's position for the next 15 years.

 

[herbert henry1908]

The very reason we are debating this much over that *tiny spot* for me means that there is no conclusive proof to overturn the decision. Conclusive being the key word, and the original decision was not out.

A spot is a spot no matter how big.

If its accepted that the ball makes a spot when it touches the bat/gloves you need to accept any size of spot.

Some touches can be very faint. There still out though.

 

[vvvrulz]

Now people (esp the BCCI fan boys) are going to sink their boots into hot spot and the DRS. Its not the system its the muppets using it, that ridiculous reversal was caused by some idiot sitting in the third umpires box not hot spot.

 

[BunniesMan]

Those glare spots on his gloves were changing with every bloody frame. They were not at all to do with the ball

Yes there were larger patches of glare moving around but there was a patch of black on the glove and right on that patch a white spot shows up only just after the ball passed. He replayed it several times close together and every time it looked like something made by the ball.

 

[vvvrulz]

A spot is a spot no matter how big.

If its accepted that the ball makes a spot when it touches the bat/gloves you need to accept any size of spot.

Some touches can be very faint. There still out though.

A lot of people here including me, Cricinfo comments and the commentators saw barely anything. Not saying that spot wasn't there it may have been, but there is no way with so much doubt you can call that *conclusive proof*. The DRS is supposed to remove howlers and there is no way that was even close, on-field umpires call should have stood.

 

[herbert henry1908]

A mark also disappears at the same time, as well as another one appearing 2-3 frames before the ball even gets there.

It was the sun shining off his gloves and absolutely nothing to do with the ball

We no nothing of the technology though.

There may be a way for them to tell the difference between glare and connection.

From the accepted use of the technology it was out. A mark appears as the ball goes through.

 

[IanG]

3rd Umpire: Asad Rauf

 

[Chicken_Hunter]

Yes there were larger patches of glare moving around but there was a patch of black on the glove and right on that patch a white spot shows up only just after the ball passed. He replayed it several times close together and every time it looked like something made by the ball.

That spot then disappeared in the very next frame, therefore it was not from the ball, as if it was a nick it would last a few seconds, not 1/100th of a second you complete and utter knob jockey.

 

[Horrie Is God]

Sammy hit on the middle stump there..