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2nd Test: India v Australia at Bangalore Oct 9-13, 2010

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Looks like Punter is blaming Dougy a bit in a round about sort of way



Bollinger's absence hurt us - Ponting

October 6, 2010

"I actually had him ready to bowl the next over," Ricky Ponting said later. "I went to grab his hat off him for the start of his next over and he said he'd felt some pain in one of his abdominals, and being a fast bowler and having that sort of injury I just sent him off the ground straight away." Ponting, captaining an Australian side not dominant any more and hence in need of every resource it can get hold of, didn't hide his disappointment last year. He is not hiding it this year.

"It would have been nice to have another fast bowler to rotate through when we needed that breakthrough," Ponting said. "At that stage, Doug had bowled just the one spell as well, so he would have been nice and fresh When you are bowling at the tail, you need those strike options.. That said, we used five other bowling options, but none of them could give us that result."

Ponting - not obligated, unlike many other international players, to always sing praises for the leagues - and the Australian team management haven't been a fan of the clashes the various leagues create with national duty, the preparation part more than the actual playing part. They have all been concerned about the late arrivals of Bollinger and Michael Hussey.

There is nothing to ensure that Bollinger wouldn't have been injured had he trained with the Australian team for the last 10 days, but it helps a captain to know that his strike bowler has not been away playing in a private league until two days before a Test.

"It probably doesn't help," said Ponting of Bollinger's Champions League commitments. "But he'd been bowling, and that's one positive for Doug that he'd been playing competitive cricket. "He probably hasn't been bowling the amount of overs in the Champions League that some of the others have had coming over here, but the facts are that he's been playing, he arrived a couple of days before the game.

"I thought his work before that was very good, I thought his spell today was probably the best he's bowled during the game, so [it was] disappointing for him to go down at the end there, it hurt us a lot."


so Punter starts the day with lollypop Hauritz bowling to tendulkar and Khan, and even mentiones he gave Bollinger only one spell. But then would have loved to have another pace bowler at the end when the game should have been done and dusted well before that

Had he used Dougy earlier the innings the game may not have gone on as long considering the way he bowled and pacemen were getting the wickets

Friggin usless, blaming bowlers instead of his own inept use of them
 

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Thats the type of crap I've come to expect from Ponting...worst test captain since Kim Hughes.
 

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with Laxman out we may actually see some attacking fields

I still cant believe we gave him 70 odd runs without trying to get him out or tie him down in anyway and make him play out of his comfort zone

I can just imagine Tugga throwing stuff at his TV watching that knowing how he would never give anyone the slightest break

Exactly they got him out reaching in the 1st inns. Put the field up and make him come forward to the spinners or reaching across his body off the pacemen
 

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...and you'd love that, wouldn't you?:roll:


to be honest, I couldn't care less... they all seem like nice blokes, so why shouldn't they play a few more tests...

their ongoing selection shows pretty clearly that the vaunted depth of Australian cricket is no more... that's pretty clear...
 

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to be honest, I couldn't care less... they all seem like nice blokes, so why shouldn't they play a few more tests...

their ongoing selection shows pretty clearly that the vaunted depth of Australian cricket is no more... that's pretty clear...

very true

However certain selections havent helped eg Krejza sacked way to early for Darts Hauritz, Persisting with North/Hussey etc...

Also depth of every other nation is pretty poor as well. So its more that we have gone backwards, rather than anyone else going forward. Put it this way there is no stand out test side anymore, not for a consistant period anyway

However we seem to have pretty good depth in the ODI arena, Hopefully win the 2011 world cup :cool:
 

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very true

However certain selections havent helped eg Krejza sacked way to early for Darts Hauritz, Persisting with North/Hussey etc...

Also depth of every other nation is pretty poor as well. So its more that we have gone backwards, rather than anyone else going forward. Put it this way there is no stand out test side anymore, not for a consistant period anyway

However we seem to have pretty good depth in the ODI arena, Hopefully win the 2011 world cup :cool:

You will always be a chance in any form of cricket... but yep, no stand out test side, but a bunch of decent ones - will make for good viewing...

I'd have you as favourites for a world cup - England, NZ and RSA consistently best challengers - but all a little fragile when push comes to shove... India rely on brilliance, so can do anything... but I'd back consistency

Ashes should be interesting... England should be favourites, but I think you'll beat them
 

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Haven't read through this forum much lately, but I can see nothing has changed... every win is due to a couple of forum favourites, while every loss is because of the most successful Test captain of all time.
 

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Haven't read through this forum much lately, but I can see nothing has changed... every win is due to a couple of forum favourites, while every loss is because of the most successful Test captain of all time.
Steve Waugh isn't captain anymore........
 

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Haven't read through this forum much lately, but I can see nothing has changed... every win is due to a couple of forum favourites, while every loss is because of the most successful Test captain of all time.

skeepe is marcus north :lol:
 

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You will always be a chance in any form of cricket... but yep, no stand out test side, but a bunch of decent ones - will make for good viewing...

I'd have you as favourites for a world cup - England, NZ and RSA consistently best challengers - but all a little fragile when push comes to shove... India rely on brilliance, so can do anything... but I'd back consistency

Ashes should be interesting... England should be favourites, but I think you'll beat them

Yes indeed, a lot more closer results and more tests going into the 5th day. Unlike the day where Punter, Haydos, Gilly, Warne, MWaugh were looking forward to a couple of relaxing golf days on days 4 and 5

We should beat England over here. Toss of a coin over there though
 

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Haven't read through this forum much lately, but I can see nothing has changed... every win is due to a couple of forum favourites, while every loss is because of the most successful Test captain of all time.

on day release mate???
 

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Bollinger is out.
Also Ponting not happy with Hauritz.

Bollinger out but Ponting's concern turns to his spin department
Jamie Pandaram
October 9, 2010

BANGALORE: Ricky Ponting has made it clear Nathan Hauritz needs to bowl more like Indian rival Harbhajan Singh.

Doug Bollinger was yesterday ruled out of the second Test, with Peter George likely to make his debut, but the spin situation is the most intriguing.

Hauritz revealed that he was directed to bowl with angles mirroring Harbhajan in the first Test in Mohali, and that because it didn't work he wants to revert back to his traditional style today in Bangalore.

But the spinner and his captain have differing views on the direction of his bowling, with Ponting saying he asked Hauritz to change because his traditional plans weren't working.

"I'm the one who asked him to try some different things, and they're things I asked him to work on about 18 months ago," Ponting said. "When he first came back into the side, I worked with him long and hard, trying to get him to create different angles for a batter, and that's talking through a batsman's eyes and what I've always found hard about facing off-spinners.

"If you look at angles Nathan creates and the shape of the ball compared to what Harbhajan does, it's chalk and cheese. What I was trying to get him to do by bowling wider at the crease was to get the ball into the rough areas a bit more.

"From where he was bowling from, it was almost impossible for him to land the ball in the footmarks.

"The reason I spoke to him about it in the first place was that I didn't think what he was trying to do was working.

"It's not as if he started the game that way, trying to use the angles I asked him to use. It was midway through the game that I asked him to adjust. He tried it for a short time then went back to his natural angles.

"I think it's important we keep trying to work with him on those things. You have to have more than one string in your bow now in international cricket, particularly if you're an off-spinner."

Hauritz said he was not comfortable bowling from wider of the crease.

"Generally, I've been a little bit tighter towards the stumps throughout my career, and we just spoke about trying to get the ball at a wider angle, sort of like what Harbhajan does, trying to get the ball to drift in, instead of drifting away," he said.

"That stuffed me around a little bit with my body and my rhythm.

"I think once I got back into what I was doing late in the afternoon [in the first innings], the ball was coming out a lot more consistently, but I don't think I'll be fiddling around too much in the second Test with that sort of thing.

"I was really happy with the way the ball came out in the first innings.''

George, 23, is competing with NSW youngster Mitchell Starc and Victorian James Pattinson for the vacant spot. Ponting said the fact George was already married helped his cricket.

"He is a lot more settled than some of the younger blokes, I guess it probably does your help to a certain degree, I know the day I got married things changes as well,'' Ponting said.

''[George] has got a lot of things in his favour, the fact he's played 18 or 19 Sheffield Shield games is a bonus for him He probably knows the step up for him mightn't be as great as for Starc or Pattinson.''

Likely Australian team: Ricky Ponting (c), Michael Clarke (vc), Shane Watson, Simon Katich, Michael Hussey, Marcus North, Tim Paine, Mitchell Johnson, Nathan Hauritz, Ben Hilfenhaus, Peter George

Likely Indian team: MS Dhoni (c), Virender Sehwag, Murali Vijay, Rahul Dravid, Sachin Tendulkar, VVS Laxman, Suresh Raina, Harbhajan Singh, Zaheer Khan, Pragyan Ojha, Sreesanth

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket...ns-to-his-spin-department-20101008-16bxc.html
 

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George, 23, is competing with NSW youngster Mitchell Starc and Victorian James Pattinson for the vacant spot. Ponting said the fact George was already married helped his cricket.

"He is a lot more settled than some of the younger blokes, I guess it probably does your help to a certain degree, I know the day I got married things changes as well,'' Ponting said.

:lol: Jesus Christ.
 

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George is only over there because of injuries. FFS Punter is a knob of the highest order.
 

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I complicated things in Mohali - Hauritz


October 8, 2010

Australia offspinner Nathan Hauritz has said he was disappointed at being ignored by Ricky Ponting in the eventful post-lunch session on the fifth day of the Mohali Test, but admitted he had lost the "right" for a bowl after an unthreatening spell before the break when he tried to experiment with his lines.

"I have been working on a few different things, to try to attack the stumps a little bit more from a wider angle," Hauritz told AAP. "Generally I've been a little bit tighter towards the stumps throughout my career, and we just spoke about trying to get the ball at a wider angle, sort of like what Harbhajan [Singh] does, trying to get the ball to drift in, instead of drifting away. That stuffed me around a little bit with my body and my rhythm."


Ponting began the day with Hauritz, and the offspinner made the first breakthrough when he had Zaheer Khan edging a delivery landed well outside the off stump into the slips. In his next over, however, the new man VVS Laxman picked easy boundaries through the off side to kickstart what proved to be a match-winning innings. This after Sachin Tendulkar had driven the first ball of the over for four down the ground.

"A couple of balls there were steady, not outstanding, and Sachin drove straight past me or through midwicket for four, and it's tough to bowl at, no word of a lie," Hauritz said. "I guess that's what was so disappointing in the second innings, and I think that came about because I was trying different things which, in hindsight, I should never have tried. Cricket is supposed to be a very simple game and I tried to make it more complicated."

Hauritz was immediately taken off the attack and bowled only three more overs in the game, with Ponting turning to part-timer Marcus North as Australia desperately looked for the last two wickets. "Punter [Ponting] needed to get wickets and he obviously didn't think I was the right guy. That's what it came down to and I can't change that.

"What I learned was to consistently work on what works well, and once you don't work on those things you put more pressure on yourself, and in the end it created problems," said Hauritz, adding that he would return to more familiar lines during the second Test.

Australia came within a wicket of winning in Mohali, with Pragyan Ojha surviving a close lbw call when India needed six runs. Even as Australia appealed, Steven Smith missed the stumps with Ojha out of the crease and conceded four overthrows. "It was such a weird feeling being out there because we were all just willing and willing and willing to get that wicket," Hauritz said as he relived the finish. "I was at backward square-leg when that last appeal went up, and young Stevie threw at the stumps.

"There was only me and someone at mid-on on the leg side, and I was appealing, running in because it was almost like Billy [umpire Billy Bowden] didn't shake his head or anything, it seriously felt like he was going to give it out. And then when he didn't the next thing I saw the ball go that way and I was like 'oh'

The last paragraph is something out of a Benny Hill skit

What knucklehead appeals for LBW on the leg side when he cant see the line of the ball, and in the process neglects to backup
 
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most successful Test captain of all time
haha

The most successful test captain of all time lost two ashes series and took the team rankings down from 1 to 4.

I would hate to think what you would call bad captaincy.
 

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Tip for young up and comers.... get married ASAP!


I fear for Michael Clarkes spot in the side now :lol:

How about Punter concentrate on making some runs himself and not degrade the baggy green cap with pitfull justifications to play test cricket
 

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Ishant and Gambhir out

India have omitted Gautam Gambhir and Ishant Sharma from the second Test in Bangalore following injuries to their right knees. The squad for that Test, announced hours after the win against Australia in Mohali, includes Tamil Nadu opener Abhinav Mukund and Saurashtra quick bowler Jaidev Unadkat, both of whom are uncapped, as replacements.

Mukund, 20, has been a consistent performer in domestic first-class matches since his debut in late 2007. He has nine centuries in 29 matches, and an average of 55.88, and his career highlights include an unbeaten triple-century against Maharashtra in 2008 and a 257 against Hyderabad last season.

Unadkat, 18, has been promoted despite not having played a Ranji Trophy match. He first came into the spotlight when his Kolkata Knight Riders bowling coach Wasim Akram endorsed his talent ahead of the 2010 IPL season. Though Unadkat did not make much of an impression in the IPL, he made the cut for India A's tour of England. He impressed with a 13-wicket haul at Grace Road on first-class debut against West Indies A. He was included in the Rest of India squad for the Irani Trophy game against Mumbai that coincided with the first Test, and he returned figures of 4 for 41 in the first innings to put his name firmly in the selectors' radar.



India squad
MS Dhoni*†, R Dravid, Harbhajan Singh, Z Khan, VVS Laxman, A Mishra, A Mukund, PP Ojha, CA Pujara, SK Raina, V Sehwag, S Sreesanth, SR Tendulkar, JD Unadkat, M Vijay
 

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