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2nd Test: New Zealand v Australia at Christchurch on Feb 20-24, 2016

vvvrulz

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Gaps galore in the NZ test team, and finally a good team exposed them.

1. For such a good hitter of a cricket ball, Guptill is a nervous wreck in test cricket. The second innings dismissal was lol worthy. Completely played the wrong line altogether. Looked like he wasn't watching the ball.
2. Latham is a perennial walking wicket when set. He seems about ten times more talented than John Wright and Bruce Edgar, but a tenth of the concentration ability.
3. No spin bowler. At all. Real problem.
4. Seamers have gone so far backwards under Dimitri Mascarenhas it's not funny. I get the feeling he may have been pushed out or knew the writing was on the wall. Tim Southee under Shane Bond and Allan Donald was bowling like Josh Hazlewood. Now he bowls like Rodney Latham or Justin Vaughan.
5. Southee should really bat at 11. Very precious. Lol, remember the talk after his first test that he was the next Chris Cairns. Batting wise he's Andre Adams-esque at best. What a massive under achiever. It troubles me that he seems to be completely unaccountable for throwing his wicket away.
6. The seamers have lost their swing. In all formats Bond had them swinging it late.
7. They need Taylor going for a few years. You can't operate with just one top line batsman.

Strengths are still Williamson and Watling. Boults faded but I think his swing can be coached back in. Not convinced Shane Jurgenson is the answer. Bond needs to be in the set up one way or the other. Maybe he can be freed up at IPL time, although I think travel is a problem for him.

1. Guptill is fodder against quality bowling and/or anything resembling bowling conditions. The latter hasn't appeared much in ODIs lately otherwise he'd be equally shit there. I'm a big fan of his clean hitting but it's pretty useless in this format.
2. Worth persevering with Latham, he at least attempts to digs in.
3. Sodhi deserves more chances than he's had, persisted with Craig too long, Santner shows promise.
4. Absolutely.
5. I'm pretty f*cking annoyed at Southee who's just phoning it in now bat or ball.
6. Yep. Boult is a massive worry, he was the key to all our bowling success.
7. Going to be even worse losing McCullum who would do something extraordinary once a series.

Sadly I think we're on our way downhill now, we've seen our best Test cricket for a while.
 

Meth

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Yes. I think we should refrain from swearing in this thread henceforth so as to not offend our Kiwi friends' sensitivities.

Seems like the shoe is on the other foot now. Aussies are offended by what the kiwi crowds said to them...
 
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hineyrulz

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Yes he is.

On the crowd issue, that's pretty poor form from the crowd.
I know he's done a fair bit of coaching out here, even had his own Vid out. Couldn't do any worse then Dimitri. He's still a merkin for bouncing the poop out of me.
 

chigurh

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http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket...w/news-story/635bda8e186a954cbad1593649a1f655

Before the series started, New Zealand Herald columnist Chris Rattue wrote an incredibly provocative piece claiming “you can smell the fear” emanating out of the Aussie camp.


New Zealand had just won the Chappell-Hadlee series 2-1, and Rattue was pumped up about the Kiwi’s chances — or, more accurately, was convinced about Australia’s fallibility.

He said the Aussies had “found themselves in a lion’s den” without “many big rocks to throw at the beast” and were “operating on thin resources” with a “relatively inexperienced captain”.

“In a crazy turnaround it is the Kiwis who have the scary fast bowlers,” he wrote.

“Australian cricket teams don’t lie down, but this might be shaping as the worst team they’ve sent here. Turn a few screws, and it could turn to disarray.”

Incendiary stuff.

After being proven so wrong in such humiliating fashion, Rattue turned his sights on the Kiwis.

“How convenient. A couple of Aussies lose the plot and, hey presto, it’s a handy smokescreen for a dire New Zealand performance over five Tests against Australia,” he wrote.


“I’m p@##$% off all right, but not at bad-mannered Josh Hazlewood or Steve Smith. The Black Caps were a Test disaster, and maybe even distracted by the Brendon McCullum celebrity tour.

“Sure, the Aussies take their competitive attitude too far sometimes, but a lot of our blokes haven’t taken it far enough.

“A potentially great cricket Test series, which could have been a landmark, turned into a dud. McCullum is a great Kiwi sports character, but save all the pats on the back until after the series. There was a job to be done, a contest to get into, and New Zealand failed miserably.

“The vaunted new ball attack of Tim Southee and Trent Boult was rubbish. The spin bowling situation is embarrassing.

“Australia are No. 1 and New Zealand a long, long way from that.”

Back in your box mate :lol:
 

JJ

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We're hoping the Telegraph gives this gimp a job, then we don't have to read his shit - maybe 1 in 20 of his pieces he's on the mark
 

El Diablo

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Did he really ?

Thats pretty shameful jidge.

he posted this in a thread about it http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?t=190341

dewa-babybonobo-l.jpg

Did I say it was a monkey? I know perfectly well what it is, I was going to post a pic of one masturbating, that would have been appropriate, but El D might have got too excited - he seems to have a thing about animals.

Of course, as you point out it's apes, not monkeys that more closely resemble humans, so Singh should call Symonds an ape next time as it's more accurate, and monkey seems offensive :crazy:

Interesting creatures - very promiscuous, group sex, homosexual sex, masturbation, the whole lot - *edited*

ape or monkey?
 

Twizzle

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“How convenient. A couple of Aussies lose the plot and, hey presto, it’s a handy smokescreen for a dire New Zealand performance over five Tests against Australia,” he wrote.

The only accurate allegation in his article.
 

JJ

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The only accurate allegation in his article.

It does seem that the PR machines on both sides of the Tasman have upped the ante in terms of diverting attention from the real issues.

To his credit, Hesson has today come out and said NZ simply need to get better - and McCullum has said Southee (in particular) has some challenges to address (both in NZ Herald)
 

JJ

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they are to rock music what Mark Craig is to off spinning.

:lol:

Here's two allrounders -

Batting all-rounder - 15 tests 437 runs at 23 with 1 50. 25 wickets @ 34.5 BB 4/61

Bowling all-rounder 14 tests, 586 runs at 41.85 with 3 50s. 48 wickets at 45 BB 7/94

There's a half decent cricketer in there, and one of them can even catch
 

ANTiLAG

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:lol:

Here's two allrounders -

Batting all-rounder - 15 tests 437 runs at 23 with 1 50. 25 wickets @ 34.5 BB 4/61

Bowling all-rounder 14 tests, 586 runs at 41.85 with 3 50s. 48 wickets at 45 BB 7/94

There's a half decent cricketer in there, and one of them can even catch

He needs to stop batting at 8 and 9 for Otago, though and move well up the order.
 

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