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Good to see Smith understand this.
On another note, how come Kiwis can't understand that bowling underarm was well within the rules when it happened in 1981?
It was for World Series Cricket.
Good to see Smith understand this.
On another note, how come Kiwis can't understand that bowling underarm was well within the rules when it happened in 1981?
Good to see Smith understand this.
On another note, how come Kiwis can't understand that bowling underarm was well within the rules when it happened in 1981?
What Kiwi has said it was not in the rules?
Howarth at the time was upset because it was not in the rules applying to English cricket at the time, but was informed of its lawfulness under World Series Cricket rules which had not been updated. Post 'underarm 1981' many cricket rules around the world outlawed underarm bowling. I think they all do now.
Are you defending the underarm as being in the rules? Spirit of cricket is too vague to draw a line? Just if its within the rules, then its fine? If so, to at least be consistent you must have no issue with Douglas Jardine bowling bodyline to Don Bradman then. Totally within the rules at the time.
Nah, I'm just trolling ya really.
I have no problem with Jardine either.
Anyway, didn't Rod Marsh apologise for it in the tea break the other day? So we're all sweet now?
Yah Nevill is a good keeper but in this era keepers are also extra batsmen,nobody in this day and age gets selected purely for there keeping,if a keeper cannot bat they don't get selected,Nevill could be regarded as the greatest keeper of all time but if he averaged 15 with the bat in first class he wouldn't get picked in the first place.
Ya feel me playa
:lol: Twiz and Timbo I think.:lol: sorry, wouldn't catch me dead in an Eels jersey - I do have a Peter Sterling testimonial t-shirt though
I suspect it's you, Hiney or twizzle to be fair
:lol: sorry, wouldn't catch me dead in an Eels jersey - I do have a Peter Sterling testimonial t-shirt though
I suspect it's you, Hiney or twizzle to be fair
THERE are Australian players privately seething at being forced to cop despicable abuse from New Zealand crowds that has in certain instances vilified their partners and children.
Australia were blindsided on Wednesday by the dissent charge levelled against captain Steven Smith, given the ICC had previously indicated they were only reprimanding Josh Hazlewood over the ugly umpiring furore that occurred on day four.
Match referee Chris Broad was seen in animated discussion with a senior Australian team official before play on Wednesday, before the message was passed onto Smith after the match that he too was being hauled over the coals – a charge which he immediately pleaded guilty to.
While copping his punishment on the chin, Smith launched a passionate defence of his team and said a perception that the Australians were the bad guys of world cricket was untrue.
Although on-field demeanour and crowd abuse are two different matters, some Australian players are upset at the lack of attention paid by security to deeply offensive material that’s been directed their way.
Explicit taunts referencing players’ wives and girlfriends in a sexual manner started up in the first ODI match of the tour at Eden Park in Auckland, and has continued.
However, most distressing for some players has been the naming of their children in vile abuse that in some circumstances has spanned entire days’ play.
A spectator was removed from Hagley Oval on day four for relentlessly abusing fast bowler Josh Hazlewood, but largely there is a frustration that New Zealand officials haven’t done enough to stamp out unacceptable behaviour in the stands.
Australian crowds have been embroiled in controversies of their own over the years and players are used to copping abuse – however privately they believe New Zealand crowds cross the line.
Retired stars like Glenn McGrath, Simon Katich, Michael Kasprowicz, Michael Bevan and Stuart Law were all subjected to abuse and projectiles thrown from Kiwi crowds for years, and on this tour Australian security officials have been extra vigilant in doing laps of the ground and liaising with ground security.
The Australians also privately feel as though New Zealand have pulled the wool over people’s eyes with their spirit of cricket routine.
It’s understood Black Caps fielders Henry Nicholls and Tom Latham were warned by umpires on day four for deliberately throwing the ball into the wicket trying to scuff it for reverse swing – just 24 hours after the Australians had been publicly outed for doing the same thing.
Smith was caught by a stump microphone using an expletive when questioning umpire Martinesz about the decision to give Kane Williamson not out lbw – but said he and Hazlewood overstepping the line did not reflect the image of the Australian team.
“I don’t think we’re not nice guys. I think we play a good, hard, aggressive brand of cricket,” said Smith.
“As I’ve said a number of times, I guess for us it’s about knowing where that line is and myself and Josh Hazlewood have crossed that line in this Test match. That’s not what we’re about and hopefully we can learn from that and continue to develop as a team and get better.”
Perhaps most embarrassingly for Hazlewood and Smith is how their reaction to a perceived bad call by the umpire compared to New Zealand’s placid reaction to copping two absolute howlers this summer from match officials.
Smith has butted heads with Brendon McCullum previously over the Black Caps skipper’s tendency to cast judgement on others for what he perceives to be a lack of spirit.
But Smith concedes he can learn from the retiring McCullum in his bid to handle similar situations more appropriately in the future.
“Brendon’s been a great ambassador and a great captain and leader for the game,” Smith said.
“I can learn a bit off the way he’s done things. We’ve talked quite a bit and he gave me a bit of criticism in England with the Ben Stokes dismissal.
“We’ve talked a little bit about that. I’m still young in my career as a leader and you try and learn from different things.
“Yesterday was a mistake on my behalf and I’ve been hit with a code of conduct (charge) because of it.
“To me it’s about trying to learn from my mistakes and trying to get this team moving forward in the right direction and playing the good, aggressive brand of cricket that we play so well.
“We know that there’s a line we can’t cross.”
Gaps galore in the NZ test team, and finally a good team exposed them.
1. For such a good hitter of a cricket ball, Guptill is a nervous wreck in test cricket. The second innings dismissal was lol worthy. Completely played the wrong line altogether. Looked like he wasn't watching the ball.
2. Latham is a perennial walking wicket when set. He seems about ten times more talented than John Wright and Bruce Edgar, but a tenth of the concentration ability.
3. No spin bowler. At all. Real problem.
4. Seamers have gone so far backwards under Dimitri Mascarenhas it's not funny. I get the feeling he may have been pushed out or knew the writing was on the wall. Tim Southee under Shane Bond and Allan Donald was bowling like Josh Hazlewood. Now he bowls like Rodney Latham or Justin Vaughan.
5. Southee should really bat at 11. Very precious. Lol, remember the talk after his first test that he was the next Chris Cairns. Batting wise he's Andre Adams-esque at best. What a massive under achiever. It troubles me that he seems to be completely unaccountable for throwing his wicket away.
6. The seamers have lost their swing. In all formats Bond had them swinging it late.
7. They need Taylor going for a few years. You can't operate with just one top line batsman.
Strengths are still Williamson and Watling. Boults faded but I think his swing can be coached back in. Not convinced Shane Jurgenson is the answer. Bond needs to be in the set up one way or the other. Maybe he can be freed up at IPL time, although I think travel is a problem for him.
Yeah, cause players touring Australia never cop abuse, do they? :lol:
I don't like it, but rich for Australians to be annoyed :lol:
Jurgo is the new bowling coach?? f**k that merkin used to bounce the shit out of me every time I played against him.Gaps galore in the NZ test team, and finally a good team exposed them.
1. For such a good hitter of a cricket ball, Guptill is a nervous wreck in test cricket. The second innings dismissal was lol worthy. Completely played the wrong line altogether. Looked like he wasn't watching the ball.
2. Latham is a perennial walking wicket when set. He seems about ten times more talented than John Wright and Bruce Edgar, but a tenth of the concentration ability.
3. No spin bowler. At all. Real problem.
4. Seamers have gone so far backwards under Dimitri Mascarenhas it's not funny. I get the feeling he may have been pushed out or knew the writing was on the wall. Tim Southee under Shane Bond and Allan Donald was bowling like Josh Hazlewood. Now he bowls like Rodney Latham or Justin Vaughan.
5. Southee should really bat at 11. Very precious. Lol, remember the talk after his first test that he was the next Chris Cairns. Batting wise he's Andre Adams-esque at best. What a massive under achiever. It troubles me that he seems to be completely unaccountable for throwing his wicket away.
6. The seamers have lost their swing. In all formats Bond had them swinging it late.
7. They need Taylor going for a few years. You can't operate with just one top line batsman.
Strengths are still Williamson and Watling. Boults faded but I think his swing can be coached back in. Not convinced Shane Jurgenson is the answer. Bond needs to be in the set up one way or the other. Maybe he can be freed up at IPL time, although I think travel is a problem for him.
Jurgo is the new bowling coach?? f**k that merkin used to bounce the shit out of me every time I played against him.
Merkin!!