3P - Why the Delays?

[Ron Jeremy]

It seemed ok that the old board were given 2 decades of mediocrity!

you're kidding right? the old regime was the greatest thing to ever happen to our country - and because of it we have avoided recession. Rudd is the Hagan of Politicians.

 

[Suitman]

sure Bart, I agree. Scrutiny is good. But we've had a hell of a lot of change, a hell of a lot of things happening....hence why I said earlier 12 months would be a good time to look back, see what they've done and how many runs they've got on the board......I think, and I reckon most people would agree, that so far they've started very well.

Sorry Fish, but people these days are greedy, and they want everything yesterday. :?
Bart, of course the new regime will be held accountable. I for one will be doing it myself. BIG TIME.
But honestly, this thread is just a selfish agenda by two blokes who should know better. They got pissed, noticed there was no TAB, and thought they'd stir something up tonight.
Nothing more, nothing less.

Suity

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

But honestly, this thread is just a selfish agenda by two blokes who should know better. They got pissed, noticed there was no TAB, and thought they'd stir something up tonight.
Nothing more, nothing less.

Suity

Actually, no.

We already had our bets on. I made them yesterday. We just noticed several people commenting that there was no TAB. We then remembered that is was supposed to be first cab off the rank. It was supposed to be a lock, simple to do.

We noticed that it hadn't materialised yet, despite promises made months ago.

Bart, of course the new regime will be held accountable. I for one will be doing it myself. BIG TIME.

Haha, sure you will. In a couple of years, that is...

 

[fish eel]

Sorry Fish, but people these days are greedy, and they want everything yesterday. :?
Bart, of course the new regime will be held accountable. I for one will be doing it myself. BIG TIME.
But honestly, this thread is just a selfish agenda by two blokes who should know better. They got pissed, noticed there was no TAB, and thought they'd stir something up tonight.
Nothing more, nothing less.

Suity

Suit - Do you remember 3P saying the deal for the TAB to go back in was already done? I don't...though Hollywood Howard seems convinced of it....

 

[Suitman]

Actually, no.

We already had our bets on. I made them yesterday. We just noticed several people commenting that there was no TAB. We then remembered that is was supposed to be first cab off the rank. It was supposed to be a lock, simple to do.



We noticed that it hadn't materialised yet, despite promises made months ago.

And that is where your argument falls so far down, that even Rick Wakeman would laugh at you.

Haha, sure you will. In a couple of years, that is...

No, next election, actually. How can we any sooner?

Suity

 

[bartman]

sure Bart, I agree. Scrutiny is good. But we've had a hell of a lot of change, a hell of a lot of things happening....hence why I said earlier 12 months would be a good time to look back, see what they've done and how many runs they've got on the board......I think, and I reckon most people would agree, that so far they've started very well.

Sure, I don't think anyone's saying overall they haven't made good progress etc etc.

To me this thread was just a specific call out on one particular issue that had been widely shared before the elections. I remember at the LC meeting I went to mention was made to an alternate betting agency if the TAB was too difficult/costly, and the name of the agency was also mentioned (although I have since forgotten it).

If 3P are good on their promise about accountability and two way communication with fans/members in the new era, the starter of the thread should see a reply from one of the 3P members about TAB/betting agency progress in this thread next week - and I think that type of communication (should it happen) is a good thing. :thumn

I just found it amusing that replies to this thread show that the same scrutiny we put to the last lot hasn't quite kicked in for the new lot yet.... but I look forward to when it does actually kick in (not at the ballot box, but in opinions and comments), because the increased fan awareness and scrutiny was the big positive imo in the changes that took place.

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

No, next election, actually. How can we any sooner?

Suity

We can do it here - a place we know they read. We can do it if we ever come across them in person. There's plenty of ways to hold people to account other than waiting years.

It's ok, Suits. Certain responses are expected of apologists and we understand.

 

[Suitman]

Sure, I don't think anyone's saying overall they haven't made good progress etc etc.

To me this thread was just a specific call out on one particular issue that had been widely shared before the elections. I remember at the LC meeting I went to mention was made to an alternate betting agency if the TAB was too difficult/costly, and the name of the agency was also mentioned (although I have since forgotten it).

If 3P are good on their promise about accountability and two way communication with fans/members in the new era, the starter of the thread should see a reply from one of the 3P members about TAB/betting agency progress in this thread next week - and I think that type of communication (should it happen) is a good thing. :thumn

I just found it amusing that replies to this thread show that the same scrutiny we put to the last lot hasn't quite kicked in for the new lot yet.... but I look forward to when it does actually kick in (not at the ballot box, but in opinions and comments), because the increased fan awareness and scrutiny was the big positive imo in the changes that took place.

They also said they would be open and accountable.

If MS or HJ have a problem with a promise, why don't they approach them personally, instead of hiding behind their keyboards? I had a very productive chat with John Chidiac this afternoon. Extremely approachable and answerable to all my questions. It's simple really, instead of getting on here and bagging them off.
It's a cowardly approach tbh.

Suity

 

[Suitman]

We can do it here - a place we know they read. We can do it if we ever come across them in person. There's plenty of ways to hold people to account other than waiting years.

It's ok, Suits. Certain responses are expected of apologists and we understand.

Apologists................lol.
Greedy more like it.

Suity

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

Sure, I will next time I come across them. In fact I'd just mentioned that method in my last post. Having said that, posting here isn't cowardly. 3P have themselves chosen this avenue to communicate with fans in the past so it's no different now.

But as I've already pointed out, certain responses are expected from the apologists...

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

Apologists................lol.
Greedy more like it.

Suity

You're greedy?

 

[Suitman]

Suit - Do you remember 3P saying the deal for the TAB to go back in was already done? I don't...though Hollywood Howard seems convinced of it....

Ahhmm, they said they'd go through the books. If it was viable, they would reinstate it. They also said, that they were shocked that it had been removed, and would certainly like it back in.
As for a core promise.......no.
As for the number one priority.............. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Suity

 

[fish eel]

Sure, I will next time I come across them. In fact I'd just mentioned that method in my last post. Having said that, posting here isn't cowardly. 3P have themselves chosen this avenue to communicate with fans in the past so it's no different now.

But as I've already pointed out, certain responses are expected from the apologists...

None of the Board Members who were part of the 3P ticket have posted on this forum.

They're not hard to track down. Why dont you drop one of them a line?

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

I may well do so but there are plenty of people who could answer the question that have graced us with their presence.

As for top priority - that's not what I said. I said first cab off the rank. There's a difference. A top priority can be something that would take precedence but might also take years to implement whereas first cab is what will be done first.

Massive difference.

Like I've already said the apologists are in fine form today.

How long until they should be held accountable?

fish: 12 months
Suits: 21 months.

Outstanding.

 

[fish eel]

Ahhmm, they said they'd go through the books. If it was viable, they would reinstate it. They also said, that they were shocked that it had been removed, and would certainly like it back in.
As for a core promise.......no.
As for the number one priority.............. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Suity

Thats what I thought. I never recalled them saying the deal was already done.

They promised it. They should do it, and I would hope it would happen, but there have been bigger things on....issues around the former CEO, getting Ossie on board, putting out the SMH fires a few weeks back etc. 3 months isnt really as long as some would have you think.

 

[fish eel]

I may well do so but there are plenty of people who could answer the question that have graced us with their presence.

As for top priority - that's not what I said. I said first cab off the rank. There's a difference. A top priority can be something that would take precedence but might also take years to implement whereas first cab is what will be done first.

Massive difference.

Like I've already said the apologists are in fine form today.

How long until they should be held accountable?

fish: 12 months
Suits: 21 months.

Outstanding.

Not really, because board members cant divulge what goes on in the board room.

 

[bartman]

They also said they would be open and accountable.

Indeed. It was very refreshing having 3P representatives interacting with fans through here during the campaigning phases. Would be a shame for it to go back to behind closed doors communication though imo.

It's simple really, instead of getting on here and bagging them off.
It's a cowardly approach tbh.

Suity

I appreciate your point of view on it. However I've personally never thought criticism of those in authority (e.g.g the NRL Board, the judiciary, referees, players, journalists) on internet forums is cowardly. It's open exchange of opinions, which (whether I agree with the opinions or not) is a healthy thing.

The same obvioulsy applied to when the old regime were openly criticised on here - not many people claimed that way cowardly if I recall? I just find it strange that the same rules do not yet apply to scrutiny of the new regime...

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

Haha, it's plenty of time.

Actually, I guess it's not. Maybe we should give them another 6 or 7 years...

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

The same obvioulsy applied to when the old regime were openly criticised on here - not many people claimed that way cowardly if I recall? I just find it strange that the same rules do not yet apply to scrutiny of the new regime...

bart you should know that's it's only cowardly when you're questioning 3P.

 

[mickdo]

Who was the clown who started this thread? Piss off back under the hole you crawled out of. FMD what a joke.