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3rd Test: Australia v South Africa at Adelaide on Nov 24-28, 2016

Bazal

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You merkins are the worst, seriously. Lyon bowls well in the first dig for no luck and you bag the shit out of him because he's not taking Warnie amount of wickets. Bowls well in the second, picks up three so far and he still can't get any credit.

Whinge that for the past few series we've been quiet, not aggressive etc, someone comes in makes a bit of noise, a bit of bants like Heals and Hads used to do (not saying he's a good keeper, prefer Nev. or that is makes us play better, it's a mental thing) and you whinge that he's doing it too much.

LU cricket fans = Poms.

Lyon is the most one dimensional spinner in world cricket. A few wickets (one of them a night watchman) doesn't change the fact that even Ravi Jadeja has more variation and wicket taking ability
 
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Hugh Trumble got 141 in 32 Tests - 4.4 wkts per test.

Lyon, 213 in 57. That's 3.73 wkts per test.

Better still, Trumble's ave was 21.78. Lyon's is/was 32.8.

It wasn't that long ago that when stats were published, the KPI was averages. I remember the 1993 Ashes tour and digesting the results and it was still averages as the top KPI for bats and bowlers. Somewhere, in the past 20 years, runs and wkts became the main KPI.

People also mistaken longevity with greatness. See Tendulkar. Sure, he got 15,921 test runs. Bit he played 200 tests and his average was 53.78.

Greg Chappell played 87 tests and scored 7110 runs. At 53.86. So...you could argue he was better. Or Everton Weekes. 48 tests, 4455 runs at 58.67.
 

JJ

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Trumble is easily better than Lyon

On Wade though, I can't think of an international keeper I've ever seen who looked less convincing with the gloves

Nevill should feel very aggrieved
 

Bazal

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Trumble is easily better than Lyon

On Wade though, I can't think of an international keeper I've ever seen who looked less convincing with the gloves

Nevill should feel very aggrieved

The fact that he's currently 177* tells you all you need to know about how Nevill feels over the whole shambles IMO
 

Bazal

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Yeah, you're right. He's only got over 200 Test wickets, an acceptable average and a strike rate only 3 balls worse than SK Warne.

His average is 34. That might be acceptable for an all rounder.....Jadeja cops a pasting on here (and for the most part rightly so) but he averages 24. 24!!! Sure, he bowls more on spin friendly wickets....but 24!!

That tells me all I need to know about Nathan Lyon....who, for the record, averages 37in India, 34 in Sri Lanka and 141 in the UAE.
 

JJ

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Maybe he should make a few comments whilst keeping.

"f**k you selectors!"

"Wade is a douche!"
It's pretty funny because his batting was ok in this series, and if Wade has improved his keeping, the mind boggles at how bad it was, Nevill is light years better
 
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