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3rd Test: South Africa v Australia at Cape Town Mar 1-5, 2014

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Well.

du Plessis will be named captain.

They can build a team around.

4. De Villers
5. du Plessis

7. De c**k
8. Philander

10. Steyn

I said to my wife after the 1st Test, and Michael Holding brought up during the 2nd, that Steyn is slipping in to that age bracket where injuries take longer to heal, all the years of bowling catches up with you, and 70+ tests and 350+ wickets as a super quick gets to you.

I think Steyn will be in and out of the side of the next couple of years, niggles and hammy injuries, etc.

It happens to us all, can't be the demon quick forever.
 

Hutty1986

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We only ever get 2 or 3...

When do you lot play each other again? I think their 8 seasons without losing a series away is pretty bloody good - it helps that they are old school in being hard to beat first... but in saying that, other good teams (India) can't win anything away, and even in your current form I think you'd get towelled in India...

Still, with the Poms in disarray, you and RSA are the only two teams that can currently have pretentions to playing well home and away

It's absolutely brilliant, especially in the last few years, when away series wins have been pretty bloody rare. Agree with you that SA deserve to still hold onto that #1 ranking, they are an outstanding side & no-one has even gotten close to their consistency in the past 5 years or so.
Edit: Some interesting stats on the struggles of travelling teams in the past 24 months: http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-australia-2013-14/content/story/725675.html

This is a particularly special series win for Australia against a side that just refuses to give in.
Absolutely stoked :D:D
 
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clipser

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What a finish, We are now rank 2 @ 115 pts and South Africa are still #1 at 127...

How long will that gap take to close? South africa don't have another test match until december..
 

jargan83

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Philander wasn't injured was he? He just has a heart the size of a pea and the Aussies summed it up last night when they had a go at him for being useless unless it's a seaming green top.

Our bowlers bowled so many balls that were just too easy to leave and too much short stuff!

Clarke's 100 in the first innings should be talked about for a long time to come given he seemed to be in a patch where he couldn't buy a run and he was worked over early.

Dave Warner had a fantastic series and was a deserving Man of the Series, Mitch Johnson with 22 wickets in 3 Tests wouldn't have been far off.

Ryan Harris had a quiet series but really stood up when it mattered.

I would love to see South Africa in a 5 test series if it were to happen.

I think the last time the South Africans played the last three Tests of the summer was in 97/98?

Time to find that saffer at work who was giving me heaps before the series started!
 
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I think the last time the South Africans played the last three Tests of the summer was in 97/98?

Nope.

1994/95 (after NZ)
1997/98 (after NZ)
2001/02 (after NZ)
2005/06 (after WI)
2008/09 (after NZ)
2012/13 (before Sri Lanka)
2016/17 (scheduled to be Oct/Nov 2016 before Pakistan)

Next year - 2014 in to 2015 - we have 3 Tests vs Pakistan in UAE in October, India 4 Tests, World Cup, 2 Tests in WI in May/June and Ashes in England 5 Tests, with NZ and WI in the 2015/2016 summer. Not counting all the T20's and ODI's will be hectic and need all bodies fit.
 
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jargan83

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Nope.

1994/95 (after NZ)
1997/98 (after NZ)
2001/02 (after NZ)
2005/06 (after WI)
2008/09 (after NZ)
2012/13 (before Sri Lanka)
2016/17 (scheduled to be Oct/Nov 2016 before Pakistan)

Next year - 2014 in to 2015 - we have 3 Tests vs Pakistan in UAE in October, India 4 Tests, World Cup, 2 Tests in WI in May/June and Ashes in England 5 Tests, with NZ and WI in the 2015/2016 summer. Not counting all the T20's and ODI's will be hectic and need all bodies fit.

Yeah that's right

Have no idea what I was thinking. Need sleep :lol:
 

hineyrulz

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Philander wasn't injured was he? He just has a heart the size of a pea and the Aussies summed it up last night when they had a go at him for being useless unless it's a seaming green top.

Our bowlers bowled so many balls that were just too easy to leave and too much short stuff!

Clarke's 100 in the first innings should be talked about for a long time to come given he seemed to be in a patch where he couldn't buy a run and he was worked over early.

Dave Warner had a fantastic series and was a deserving Man of the Series, Mitch Johnson with 22 wickets in 3 Tests wouldn't have been far off.

Ryan Harris had a quiet series but really stood up when it mattered.

I would love to see South Africa in a 5 test series if it were to happen.

I think the last time the South Africans played the last three Tests of the summer was in 97/98?

Time to find that saffer at work who was giving me heaps before the series started!
He'll go MIA like PieLander :lol:
 

Twizzle

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Steyn's #1...

Philander is (and has been) a much better bowler than evident in this test series - for me, he's a lot like Ryan Harris - but he just wasn't doing anything right this series... mind you, Johnson aside non of the quicks had great figures, Steyn was next best and his weren't great for him... Harris improved his in the last test, but he's better than a 3-+ runs per wicket bowler, and his stats would have been much more like Philander, SIddle and Morkel's without the last 4 very cheap (run wise, not effort) wickets

Philander was shit in Australia last summer as well which is probably why he copped so much shit from us. This series he was far worse.

In my opinion he deserved the criticism he got and it was fairly obvious that Biff had lost all confidence in him as well as he bowled f**k all in the last test and had the figures of 1-168.

I cant for the life of me see how this pie chucker got his average down to 18.
 

undertaker

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Was listening to the last session on radio and was lying down in bed and starting to nod off when I thought Steyn and Philander were going to salvage a draw and the Saffa commentators were babbling crap and then sprung off my bed when I heard Jim Maxwell yelled "Bowled him!" regarding Harris wicket of Steyn. Glad l stayed up to 3:10am to hear a great test match.

And Mark Nicholas... WHY does he keep popping up everywhere? He's got the dream job considering he never played at international level and nearly all tv commentators have played at international level. He's only appealing to the tv networks because he's got a broadcasters voice (with a refined British accent) and he uses a lot of superlatives and adjectives in his detailed descriptions of players. Not to mention he loves sucking up to the Aussies.

And regarding the Saffa commentators from SuperSport network being biased, two of them are pseudo-wannabe Saffas. That black guy anchoring the coverage with the annoying voice used to be a former Zimbabwean player and Mike Haysman is an Aussie who played some first class cricket in South Africa in the 80s
 

El Diablo

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Philander was shit in Australia last summer as well which is probably why he copped so much shit from us. This series he was far worse.

In my opinion he deserved the criticism he got and it was fairly obvious that Biff had lost all confidence in him as well as he bowled f**k all in the last test and had the figures of 1-168.

I cant for the life of me see how this pie chucker got his average down to 18.

playing NZ
 
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A year or two ago we wouldn't have won this test match. Heck after the 2nd test beating, we probably would've folded like a deck of cards. This team is now a proper, determined unit that knows how to win. Lehmann seems to have brought out the very best in Clarke's leadership and taken it to a new level.

Suck shit to the Saffas as well. Yes they fought hard but it was f**king pissweak to go for the draw that far out from the end of the match, especially with some of the batsmen at their disposal.
 
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Steyn's #1...

Philander is (and has been) a much better bowler than evident in this test series - for me, he's a lot like Ryan Harris - but he just wasn't doing anything right this series... mind you, Johnson aside non of the quicks had great figures, Steyn was next best and his weren't great for him... Harris improved his in the last test, but he's better than a 3-+ runs per wicket bowler, and his stats would have been much more like Philander, SIddle and Morkel's without the last 4 very cheap (run wise, not effort) wickets

Harris is nothing like Philander. That's laughable. He's about 10 k's quicker for a start and gets wickets on pitches that aren't seaming green tops.
 
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In the last two series - South Africa 2011/12 and Australia 2012/13, Australia were their own worst enemy.

South Africa:
1st Test - First innings lead of 188 (we got 284 and they got 96) and we squandered it with a piss poor 47 and they got 2/236.
We won the 2nd Test with Cummins.

Australia:
1st Test - rain ruined what could have been.
2nd Test - Pattinson goes down and we bowl a whole day one short - the attack being Siddle, Hilfy and Lyon. Saffas survive 8 down and 181 runs behind.
3rd Test - the nadir of Australian cricket (and India shortly after) - team is chopped and changed, rotation policy ruins cricket and Saffas pounded a demoralised and headless Australia.

Best thing to ever happen?

Boof Lehmann.
Followed by -
End of 'rotation policy'
Return of Mitchell, Harris up there.
Warner firing.

Team looks fit, hungry and no more excuses. You're fit, you're in form and you're playing. (Doesn't quite excuse Marsh BUT this hunch caper seems to be working a bit - Marsh gets ton). They're ruthless, they're tough and they won't take it on the chin.

The 2nd test loss? I'm putting that down to one of those losses you 'have to have'. Grounded them. Big heads and maybe reading their own press? Boof knocked that shit out. Plus they won big, lost big and then ground out a fking tough win. Saffas never roll over. Other teams will. If that was England or anyone else, we would have had they won by lunch.

My two cents worth.
 

El Diablo

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even worse than his average in Aus

imagine if the pea hearted pie chucker had played in Adelaide :lol:
 

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