3rd Test: South Africa v Australia at Newlands, Capetown, March 22-26, 2018

[JJ]

The same ones will then be moaning about having a shit captain while losing the next 5 series to blot.

meh, you've had shit captains since Steve Waugh retired - with that attack and Smith in the middle order what you need is someone of character leading the team and as coach - someone like Tugga as a manager, Gillespie as coach, and a respected guy (Bailey seems to be mentioned a lot, I dunno) as captain

TBH it speaks volumes for the culture that that toxic merkin Warner was v/c

 

[Eelectrica]

Definately getting to the punishment sufficient stage. Captaincy/VC stripped game suspensions.

Fines that will most likely be made up in one IPL match.

Conspiring to actively cheat and conceal the attempt is worse than sucking a lolly and polishing the ball. Life bans though are not called for. Players need that chance to regain trust and respect.

The reaction is from people being fed up with the players on this tour blindly lurching from one disaster to the next without a care in the world. Speaks to a total lack of leadership and it's time we get leadership.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Thanks for the advice JJ.

 

[billygilmore]

Thanks for the advice JJ.

I’d give him some advice about NZ cricket but.. well I couldn’t give a f**k about NZ cricket

 

[JJ]

Thanks for the advice JJ.

No problem - given you're so appreciative I'd also suggest your Raiders find a coach, halfback and some heart

 

[Mr Spock!]

Lol Bailey....

We want someone who can bat.

 

[Timbo]

Lol Bailey....

We want someone who can bat.

Yeah! Let's get another dickhead in there so we can start the cycle all over again!

 

[Mr Spock!]

Yeah! Let's get another dickhead in there so we can start the cycle all over again!

You people have short memories eg the Chappells and Border.

Yeah we'll pick the nicest guy.

 

[JJ]

Lol Bailey....

We want someone who can bat.

Sure, but first and foremost you need a leader

And I wonder if you're simply better off without Warner - he's simply a toxic merkin who can't handle himself when there's any sense of resistance from the opposition - loves to dish shit out but can't handle it himself

 

[Mr Spock!]

Sure, but first and foremost you need a leader

And I wonder if you're simply better off without Warner - he's simply a toxic merkin who can't handle himself when there's any sense of resistance from the opposition - loves to dish shit out but can't handle it himself

A bit like Kohli then...

It seems people want players based on how nice they are.

 

[JJ]

A bit like Kohli then...

It seems people want players based on how nice they are.

Not at all - just people need to understand the reality of where lines are, and understand they are not the sole arbiter of that location

If as stories are suggesting Warner was behind this he might be done, his continual embarrassment of himself and the baggy green is a bit much

Also seems Hazelwood and Starc might be pissed at being dragged into this by Smith - all just bizarrely stupid

 

[TheParraboy]

Not at all - just people need to understand the reality of where lines are, and understand they are not the sole arbiter of that location

If as stories are suggesting Warner was behind this he might be done, his continual embarrassment of himself and the baggy green is a bit much


Also seems Hazelwood and Starc might be pissed at being dragged into this by Smith - all just bizarrely stupid

again, like Kholi.

Is there a reference about Haze and Starc?

 

[TheParraboy]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricke...l/news-story/be830e75cb323c2c21c708b629ec0008

rumour at this stage, but Warner being pointed as the ring leader and the one who orchestrated his crap

if that is the case, he should have got his sorry ass at the press conference not Bancroft

weak as piss

 

[JJ]

again, like Kholi.

Is there a reference about Haze and Starc?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12020889

Starc and Hazelwood have been mentioned in a few stories as being unhappy with the term 'leadership group' being used, as presumably they are part of it - this story mentions it - WTF is Henriques weighing in for? FFS

Yes, like Kohli, but Warner is even more ridiculous

 

[Timbo]

If it's true about Warner, the way he's gone to ground I'd be happy with him never playing for Australia again. It least Smith copped it.

 

[JJ]

Is there a reference about Haze and Starc?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/crick...-at-steve-smith-for-linking-them-with-scandal

 

[TheParraboy]

Probably not the way it panned out but would it be possible that Warner (and a couple of the bowlers) went behind Smiths back?

Sounds a bit far fetched but wouldn't surprise me

Agree with Timbo, if it was Warner who came up with the idea and wanted it going, not to front up about it then can go and get f**ked. Im more pissed off at that over some poncy ball tampering issue

 

[Tommy Smith]

Nothing that comes out about Warner surprises me.

He is a colossal merkin and always has been.

Apparently this is a revelation to some only after this fall out?

 

[JJ]

Nothing that comes out about Warner surprises me.

He is a colossal merkin and always has been.

Apparently this is a revelation to some only after this fall out?

Some still want to defend him, because he's hard but fair and doesn't cross lines

 

[Timbo]

Yeah, to be honest I had the displeasure of meeting Davey in a social setting a few years back. This 'new and improved and grounded' persona was always smoke and mirrors. I've never met a more full of themselves bloke in my life.

You install a dickhead like this as the lieutenant for a young skipper, what do you expect?