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3rd Test

ozbash

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NEW ZEALAND KIWIS:

1 SAM PERRETT
2 CHASE STANLEY
3 CLINTON TOOPI
4 PAUL WHATUIRA
5 TANIELA TUIAKI
6 BEN ROBERTS
7 JEREMY SMITH
8 SAM RAPIRA
9 DENE HALATAU
10 ROY ASOTASI (c)
11 LOUIS ANDERSON
12 JEREMY SMITH
13 SIMON MANNERING

Interchange:

14 LANCE HOHAIA
15 FUIFUI MOIMOI
16 EPALAHAME LAUAKI
17 JEFF LIMA

what was that record scoreline again ?
 

MKEB...

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That midget secong row pairing would be the equal of a paring we had against Aussie about 15 years ago. Gary Mercer and Quentin Pongia Vs Paul Sironen and Bob Lindner.

One plus though; they will tackle.
 

NZ Warrior

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Once again, I'll be sleeping in. So I probably won't make the replay either.

Time for a clean out, guys. Coach, selectors, a few heartless players. Put the broom through the place.

When do the Warriors kick off again?
 

KiWi_BoI_15

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I guess Paea and Iosefa might get a run against France.

Might just sleep off this game, MAY catch the replay depends how much i have to drink tonight.lol.

I'm worried how we'll go against France next week.
 

KiWi_BoI_15

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Eastwood's defence is very good, Pritchard was a lil quiet in the test against the Kangaroos and the 1st test against G.B. But last week showed he is a threat running out wide drawing in defenders, getting sneaky offloads away.

He, Whatuira and Tuiaki were the only ones looking threatning.
 

Iafeta

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That team will get mauled. Smith is not the answer at halfback, Whatuira is not a test centre (I've said this for a few years now), Faiumu is required on the bench and aside from Roy Pritchard was the only forward looking likely (although he didn't seem to like tackling much).

36-12.
 

Micistm

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Although GBs defense was terrific last week, IMO they aren't as good a side as made out...simply the Kiwis were so godawful.
I'm expecting a huge difference this week. If the guys have any ticker and Jersey pride at all, they will be doing their outmost to redeem themselves. Not necessarily a win, just some ****ing heart and pride! Unfortunately, a win now might make the powers that be put their heads back in the sand and not face and address issues that have to be- Ultimately I do agree with NZ Warrior that there are big problems here and a complete cleanout is needed. The big problem is though that those that need to go will fight tooth and nail for their jobs.
 

Rich102

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Iafeta said:
That team will get mauled. Smith is not the answer at halfback, Whatuira is not a test centre (I've said this for a few years now), Faiumu is required on the bench and aside from Roy Pritchard was the only forward looking likely (although he didn't seem to like tackling much).

36-12.

You reckon Archer will give us 6 penalties within kicking range?
 

Micistm

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Well, I don't like being negative for the sake of it, so for a start the positives...Great to see the side actually have some self respect and pride. If they don't wanna play for the coach, at least they played for the jersey. The spirit and effort was clear to see, for the first half of that first half, the speed of the game was much more like I expect from a test, much better than the previous games from the Aussie on off onwards. And towards the end the desire to keep at them was evident. So big ups for that.
For the GB side- They are a better side than people give them credit for, including myself who didn't really rate them. Their defence has really lifted in the last year, although I am still uneasy about their desire to go straight for the head. But if you can get away with it...It'll be interesting to see them against Aussie as a yardstick, to see if it was a bad Kiwi side or truely good GB defence.
On the down side, the attack and plays of the Kiwis again seem to lack innovation, enterprise...very few attacking ideas when thinking outside the square was needed to crack the defence. It still leaves many doubts IMO.

Ultimately though, good to see the players respond to lack of heart and 'only there for a holiday' criticisms. The French will still give this side a run for it's money IMO, and still personally very uneasy about the coaching team. I'll be so delighted to be proven wrong, but can't see the Kiwis doing well at all for the forseable future. I still want to see that cleanout right from Management to player level, start afresh with new ideas, professional management. The game won't move on until the NZRL grow a couple and do the right thing. Just my opinion ;-)
 

MKEB...

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For the life of me I cant work out why Roberts wasnt persevered with for the series. He had a good game today. Smith (soufs one) was and is out of his depth. Had TL not been injured would he have played in smiths place?

Mannering plays better as a lock than as a second rower (IMO better still as a centre, and certainly better than Whatuira).
Moimoi, well you all know my opinion there...Not an international, and not a Kiwi international.

TNT, give him a couple more years as in NRL first. Would still have a fully fit Vatuvei over him. Although Manu has struggled with his catching at times, does provide an extra forward and always charges upfield full steam.

Much happier with this performance. Still not happy, but much happier. They looked like they wanted to be out there today.
 
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Not too disappointed after today, competed well, but still had rookie mistakes in them, which you expect from so many guys starting their careers.

Looked to be a few more options in attack today, and a game plan being carried out at the start which was quite effective.

I still am not in favour of the cleanout at all levels just yet, would like to see how the new ideas and inititives pan out first
 

Rich102

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A better effort. The big difference, for me, is that GB had a halfback. Where are all our halfbacks? This needs to be addressed very quickly.
 

ozbash

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TNT, give him a couple more years as in NRL first. Would still have a fully fit Vatuvei over him. Although Manu has struggled with his catching at times, does provide an extra forward and always charges upfield full steam.

he reminds me of a young les vainikolo. him on 1 side and manu on the other...
 

MKEB...

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ozbash said:
TNT, give him a couple more years as in NRL first. Would still have a fully fit Vatuvei over him. Although Manu has struggled with his catching at times, does provide an extra forward and always charges upfield full steam.

he reminds me of a young les vainikolo. him on 1 side and manu on the other...

damn that would terrorise a lot of sides
 

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