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4th Ashes Test, Boxing Day @ the MCG

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The entire series though not just yesterday it's been disappointing watching the batsman throw their wickets away like they're playing pyjama cricket having a crack at everything and the bowlers look for 6 wicket balls in an over instead of putting it on a nagging line and length.
 
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agreed TT, some of the shots yesterday were ridiculous. Whilst the game was gone today, seeing Siddle wielding the blade like he was looking for a score reeked of someone looking for self glory was pretty disappointing.

Why the Siddle hate? He and Haddin are probably the only fighters in the team. If some of the pretty boys like Watson, Clarke and Smith put as much value on their wicket we'd be doing a lot better. Plus as a bowler he's the only one to have performed in more than about one innings in the series.
 

hineyrulz

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Siddle has scored more than the captain this series, bit hard to have a dig at his batting. And he is our leading wicket taker, never been a fan but credit where credit is due.
 

JJ

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Siddle's been Australia's best in the whole series - easily the best bowler, and looks more useful than Smith and Johnson with the bat

Think it was Yappy that compared Johnson to Santa, I prefer the Easter Bunny - but once a year he leaves you feeling content...

I'd be ditching Hughes, Smith, Hilfenhaus, Beer (because I can only assume he's crap) and Johnson... no idea who you should pick, but if you can't find better than that lot, you're in serious trouble
 

Gaba

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Damn, I was about to say that Siddle needed to get to 58 to surpass Clarkes series batting average as well.

He has a better batting average this series than:
Johnson, North, Ponting, Collingwood, Hughes, Swann, Doherty, Hilfenhaus, Bresnan, Anderson, Harris, Tremlett, Finn, Broad and Bollinger
also prior who average 16 this series
 

Manu Vatuvei

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Imagine how bad it would've been for Australia if they'd had Demented Downie Dougtard instead of Sensational Siddle.

Smith and Hughes :lol:
 

Red Bear

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Re England vs Us, they have a few bowlers and batsmen (Cook Anderson and Swann and Bell particularly) showing the benifit of being backed based on their talent and ability, rather than being dropped early after a couple of poor tests (something England were renouned for doing in the 90's a string of three gamers and a rubbish cricket side). As mentioned in the papaer today, Smith shouldnt have been chosen in Perth, but he should've been kept in India so we could get a clearer idea of what he was like. Hughes should've been backed to come good in England but was dumped. And we are at a point where we need to do this. Players like Warne Mcgrath Slater Waugh etc were all backed and given time and it certainly paid off as they became good test cricketers.

When to debut players is a whole other debate but if you are going to choose young talent there is no point then just dumping them the first sign of poor form, no point picking youth if you arent going to back their obvious ability.
 

beave

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Why the Siddle hate? He and Haddin are probably the only fighters in the team. If some of the pretty boys like Watson, Clarke and Smith put as much value on their wicket we'd be doing a lot better. Plus as a bowler he's the only one to have performed in more than about one innings in the series.

No Siddle hate here at all,he has been excellent for us, I was just using his dig this morning as an example because it was the most recent example to use. But did you think him prancing down the wicket this morning was what was needed?
 

yappy

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But did you think him prancing down the wicket this morning was what was needed?

No problem with it at all. He's a No.10 and he scored his best test score after taking a 6-fer. He did all that could be asked of him. Much better to slap a couple of runs than try and pretend you're Boycott. If we were 30 behind and 100 run partnership could have at least made it interesting then maybe he should have looked to bat time, but not today.
 
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Ponting has scored 4 more runs and faced 15 more deliveries than Siddle with 1 extra inning this series... that extra inning was the 2nd inning half century at the Gabba.
 

IanG

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In Affectionate Remembrance
of
AUSTRALIAN CRICKET
which died at the MCG
on
29th DECEMBER 2010,
Deeply lamented by a large circle of sorrowing
friends and acquaintances

R.I.P.

N.B.—The body will be cremated and the
ashes taken to England and interred at Lord's.
 

JJ

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Two tests lost by an innings... that's pretty sad, and one win in which some mysterious left arm quick who could get late swing appeared :crazy:

And then some fans saying that the Poms are only any good on flat decks :lol: what does that say about the Australian bats if the decks were roads?? :crazy: 98 all out, and then 258 held together by Siddle and Haddin
 

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