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4th Ashes Test, Boxing Day @ the MCG

madunit

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Damn, I was about to say that Siddle needed to get to 58 to surpass Clarkes series batting average as well.

He has a better batting average this series than:
Johnson, North, Ponting, Collingwood, Hughes, Swann, Doherty, Hilfenhaus, Bresnan, Anderson, Harris, Tremlett, Finn, Broad and Bollinger
 

KeepingTheFaith

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Well done England. People can bag the Aussie selectors/captain/whoever they want, but the fact is England has played better as a team and have deserved their win, and I doubt there's anyone currently in Australian cricket who could've changed that. England are a team at the height of their powers, and came prepared.

Should be an interesting couple of years for Australian cricket. It has to enter a rebuilding phase now. Will be interesting to see who they pick and who steps up.
 

skeepe

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The funny thing is I honestly don't think the England players are more talented than their Australian counterparts or anything like that... I just think they are a lot better coached.

There is something seriously wrong with the Australian coaching setup that hasn't been addressed because we were winning all the time so they assumed it was being done right. This has to change before we can even consider righting the wrongs of the selectors, or we are doomed to repeat this cycle of chopping and changing.
 

madunit

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Johnson should be dumped again. This performance isn't much different to Brisbane.

Expensive, erratic, unthreatening and struggled to be significant as a bowler.

Ponting and Harris will be omitted due to injuries. If we get a crumbling SCG pitch as we always used to, it might pay to have O'Keefe and Hauritz in the side. Dump Smith, he's useless.

Khwaja for Ponting
Bollinger for Johnson
O'Keefe for Harris
Hauritz for Smith
 
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The funny thing is I honestly don't think the England players are more talented than their Australian counterparts or anything like that... I just think they are a lot better coached.

There is something seriously wrong with the Australian coaching setup that hasn't been addressed because we were winning all the time so they assumed it was being done right. This has to change before we can even consider righting the wrongs of the selectors, or we are doomed to repeat this cycle of chopping and changing.

England played test cricket and full credit to them our team has serious patience issues.
 

Fast Eddie

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The funny thing is I honestly don't think the England players are more talented than their Australian counterparts or anything like that... I just think they are a lot better coached.

Haha no way for starters

Cook>Hughes
Strauss=Watson
Over the last year or so Trott>Ponting
Pietersen>Clarke
Collingwood<Hussey
Bell>Smith
Prior=Haddin

And then all England quicks are better then Aussie quick, and obvisouly Swann>any aussie spinner.
 

skeepe

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Haha no way for starters

Cook>Hughes
Strauss=Watson
Over the last year or so Trott>Ponting
Pietersen>Clarke
Collingwood<Hussey
Bell>Smith
Prior=Haddin

And then all England quicks are better then Aussie quick, and obvisouly Swann>any aussie spinner.

I said talent, not form. Learn how to read.
 

Fast Eddie

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Yeah and all those players are better or more 'talented' then their counterpart except for Trott and Ponting.
 

beave

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England played test cricket and full credit to them our team has serious patience issues.

agreed TT, some of the shots yesterday were ridiculous. Whilst the game was gone today, seeing Siddle wielding the blade like he was looking for a score reeked of someone looking for self glory was pretty disappointing.
 

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