6 Domestic players my arse

[screeny]

f**k me, PW, I've not even had the chance to welcome you back after such a long hiatus and I'm sick and tired of you already!

The poor sentence structure, the winky icon, the piss poor attempt at humour with the new name, the same metronomic attack on Samoan RL (we get it already - it doesn't exist!).......

 

[brendothejet]

PollyWarrior it doesnt matter what your screen name is you are still a moron wearing a human costume.

Your fascination for all things Samoan Rugby League is heartwarming.

 

[bowes]

I'm not convinced there is a local comp actually. There's plenty I here about Fiji, Tonga and Cook Islands leagues but not Samoa. I think I heard they play junior RL, so they must have had six players play that or something. I heard a couple of years ago they were going to play a four team league lasting a month (to avoid the RU and RU 7s leagues) but they couldn't get it started in the end. If anyone can point me to something saying there is a league I'll believe there is but I've not seen a shred of evidence for one still existing.

 

[Turdy Angle]

I'm not convinced there is a local comp actually. There's plenty I here about Fiji, Tonga and Cook Islands leagues but not Samoa. I think I heard they play junior RL, so they must have had six players play that or something. I heard a couple of years ago they were going to play a four team league lasting a month (to avoid the RU and RU 7s leagues) but they couldn't get it started in the end. If anyone can point me to something saying there is a league I'll believe there is but I've not seen a shred of evidence for one still existing.

There is no local comp of any kind bowes but the new SRL board made up of Tony Tuimavave, Fritz Tuivaiti and two New Zealand expats living in Samoa are starting to start up the game again .
There's already trouble with another breakaway Samoan Rugby League formed overseas that wants the Samoa Rugby league to be base in Melbourne Australia .

 

[Mr_Ugly]

Thanks for the info PW.

I thought that there was a comp in '05 at least - I remember a Samoan on the IRB boards laughing that they were fat and unfit.

Having said that, the only info I get is off the web, so if you know different then I'll defer to your better knowledge on the subject.

If they don't have a comp, they had better not be allowed to qualify for the World Cup.

Georgia were rightly kicked out for not getting a comp up - the same rules should apply in the Pacific!

 

[Turdy Angle]

The only RL they had in Samoa in 2005 was a rugby league 7s comp that was won by Taufusi over Malie Sharks .

 

[Mr_Ugly]

The only RL they had in Samoa in 2005 was a rugby league 7s comp that was won by Taufusi over Malie Sharks .

Thanks dood - I appreciate the info!

 

[Mr_Ugly]

There is no local comp of any kind bowes but the new SRL board made up of Tony Tuimavave, Fritz Tuivaiti and two New Zealand expats living in Samoa are starting to start up the game again .
There's already trouble with another breakaway Samoan Rugby League formed overseas that wants the Samoa Rugby league to be base in Melbourne Australia .

A bit off the original topic, but RLR reports a recent RL sevens comp in Apia and a domestic come starting next month (... here's hoping it actually gets off the ground).

Tony Tuimavava will coach the side in the upcoming South Pacific Games.

 

[boonboon]

It shouldnt matter where someone works and lives as long as they represent just the one nation in thier career I think is the improtant point, players should have to wait at least 7 years after representing 1 nation to represent another, mayby never and should be asked to choose when they start professional careers making it easier and fairer, for example some of the blokes that have played for Australia shouldnt have or should have only played for Australia

 

[Titanic]

Off the topic but why don't PNG rate a mention in the Pacific Islanders - surely melanesian and polynesian deserve some sort of interaction? On the continuing Samoa debate PNG boasted an excellent Samoan prop Iosefa Faliniko in the 80's who was also captain of the Port Moresby Defence RLC. He is back home and should be the type of guy to be coaching too.

 

[Mater]

The USA roster should be out any day and contains at least 9 players from their domestic competition.

 

[bartman]

Good stuff.

Didn't know there were 14 US-linked players outside of their comp to be honest?

Newton, Peterson...

 

[Skinner]

Good stuff.

Didn't know there were 14 US-linked players outside of their comp to be honest?

Newton, Peterson...

From the American NRL Forum ;-)

Available players based outside of the US are:
Matt Petersen - Gold Coast Titans (Australian NRL)
Shane Millard - Wigan Warriors (Super League Europe)
Clint Newton - Melbourne Storm (Australian NRL)
Mark O'Halloran - Penrith Panthers (Australian NRL)
Brandon Costin - Souths Logan (Brisbane, Australia)
Mark Cantoni - Easts Tigers (Brisbane, Australia)
Tyrone Coppedge - Souths Logan (Brisbane, Australia)
Jon Wells - London Harlequins (Super League Europe)
David Myles - Gold Coast Titans (Australian NRL)
Nathan De Bartolo - Sydney Bulls (Australia)
Ryan McGoldrick - Castleford Tigers (England)
Ashley Lanfranchi - Byron Bay (Australia)

 

[roopy]

Jon Wells is an interesting story.
He is an Aussie guy who i remember was a star for the New York Knights the year they won the AMNRL title - and they talked him up as being an ex NSW Waratah union player.
So from what i can understand (i may be wrong of course) he was an aussie union player who went to New York for business reasons, was playing Union and decided to have a go at League when the New York Knights were being formed from three NY Union sides, helped the Knights win the title in their first year, played one more season i think, then went to England and got a run with an ESL club.
Basically, he is a Waratah who has switched to League successfully in the most roundabout way possible.

 

[nadera78]

No sorry Roopy, you've got the wrong guy.

Jon Wells is from yorkdhire. Played for Castleford and Wakefield, and then moved down to London (now Harlequins). He's a winger or full back and a couple of years back completed his masters degree in law.

 

[roopy]

No sorry Roopy, you've got the wrong guy.

Jon Wells is from yorkdhire. Played for Castleford and Wakefield, and then moved down to London (now Harlequins). He's a winger or full back and a couple of years back completed his masters degree in law.

Really?
How odd is it that two guys named Jon Wells have links to US league. (unless i've totally forgotton the name of the guy who played for the NY Knights - which would really make me look like a dill).

 

[nadera78]

We've all done that, dude!

 

[Mater]

Roopy, I believe you are thinking of Craig Wells. He did play for the Knights but not the year they won the grand final. He started playing afterwards. I believe he is now in California playing for one of the rugby union super league teams.

 

[Poul]

If the 13th Rugby League World Cup is a success, both financially and on the field, I would hope that for each subsequent World Cup that the quota for domestic players in each team is progressively increased

As it is now, there would appear to be a requirement for only 3 domestic players in a 17 man team, and 6 for the squad. If this were to be increased by an extra 2 players for each subsequent World Cup,by the time of the 20th Rugby League World Cup in 2037 ( Hope I'm alive to see it :lol: ), each 17 man team would be comprised fully of domestic players.Certainly, rules and eligibilty for "domesticity" need to be reviewed, but I believe that this would provide a big incentive for the development of domestic leagues, and that the standard of each would improve as more players gained international playing experience. Obviously, this would effect national teams in differing ways. Those that currently rely heavily on th GP rule may be disadvantaged, whilst those using predominantly local residents would be likely to become more competitive. If this were done in this preordained progressive manner, then all nations would have time to best adjust to the changing criteria, and to remain competitive. I think this is a good idea, but obbviously the RLIF would have to too

 

[bazza]

If the 13th Rugby League World Cup is a success, both financially and on the field, I would hope that for each subsequent World Cup that the quota for domestic players in each team is progressively increased

As it is now, there would appear to be a requirement for only 3 domestic players in a 17 man team, and 6 for the squad. If this were to be increased by an extra 2 players for each subsequent World Cup,by the time of the 20th Rugby League World Cup in 2037 ( Hope I'm alive to see it :lol: ), each 17 man team would be comprised fully of domestic players.Certainly, rules and eligibilty for "domesticity" need to be reviewed, but I believe that this would provide a big incentive for the development of domestic leagues, and that the standard of each would improve as more players gained international playing experience. Obviously, this would effect national teams in differing ways. Those that currently rely heavily on th GP rule may be disadvantaged, whilst those using predominantly local residents would be likely to become more competitive. If this were done in this preordained progressive manner, then all nations would have time to best adjust to the changing criteria, and to remain competitive. I think this is a good idea, but obbviously the RLIF would have to too

I don't think they have to make a rule to have any more than half the squad as domestic players. I think smaller countries like Tonga, Wales and Scotland are always going to find it tough to field competitive teams without heritage players. Even New Zealand has a fair number of non-domestic players in their team.