A couple of coaching errors today

[Macca]

Your argument is floored

Is that because you have knocked it down or do you mean flawed.

Sorry Couldn't resist.

 

[millersnose]

so no tries were due to the backs reefy?

is that a bit like your "i dont remember a kick when peachey was not the first chaser there" statement?

some of the kick chases in the second half by the backs were staggered and they were cut to ribbons as a result

 

[Sharkies all the Way]

:lol:

Flawed*

 

[Sharkies all the Way]

Reefy, you have changed from this

One try was not because of the backs at all

suggesting the other tries were due to the backs to

No tries were due to the backs.

:?

Your all over the place, can we have one sustained argument? :lol:

 

[blacktip-reefy]

This exactly my point.
yes I think things would have been much better.
i.e. Newcastle would not have gotten back into the match.
We should have started the 2nd half with lomu, Stevo & Ice with clear instruction for the little guys to follow them & in defense to compress. make Newcastle go wide & if the pass is good enough, then congratualtions.
They should have been rotated at 15 mins & then changed as required for the remainder.

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Please dont put words in mouth SharkiesATW. By saying I am suggesting at something will only make you look silly.
For the final time, I am not looking at the tries, missed tackles, spear tackles, comebacks in isolation, like you insist on doing.
I believe the entire second half was affected by poor rotation(causality).
The result of this was a comeback by the knights, which included, but not limited to, tries, breaks, miss tackles, poor defensive reads, staggered defensive lines, spear tackles, penalties. (affect)
Get it?

 

[Sheros los Deros]

Beattie and Stevo should have at least tried to tackle him.

Both were close enough

Bird should not run out of the line to tackle Carmont. That was the critical error. A straight line kick chase and Carmont doesn't break the line. When Peach runs out of the line and tries to tackle someone in goal he nails his man. Vagana's missed tackle was pathetic. Simmons should have made a better attempt at Brown. Beattie and Stevo are forwards, Brown is a quick player. A tough ask for props to make a tackle on, that Bird Vagana should already have made.

 

[beekershark]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I just saw the 109 metre try the knights scored again on NRL scoreboard........and laughing at reefys insistance that Stevens was 10 metres from the try scorer when he went between him and Beats ! 10 metres ! hah ! It was half a metre at best, although I should be nice, you have learned from a young age to take small measurements and hugely exagerate them .......


:lol: :lol:

 

[blacktip-reefy]

You see the problem you have, is your eyesight went with your hair.

I have lots of hair & eyesight.

 

[beekershark]

Hair on your back, arse and the bridge of your nose doesn't count goose.

 

[Sharkies all the Way]

Please dont put words in mouth SharkiesATW. By saying I am suggesting at something will only make you look silly.
For the final time, I am not looking at the tries, missed tackles, spear tackles, comebacks in isolation, like you insist on doing.
I believe the entire second half was affected by poor rotation(causality).
The result of this was a comeback by the knights, which included, but not limited to, tries, breaks, miss tackles, poor defensive reads, staggered defensive lines, spear tackles, penalties. (affect)
Get it?

Thats just what I thought you meant, what did you mean then? To me saying "One try was not because of the backs at all" gives the impression that only one was not because of backs :shock: . You have nothing Reefy, even whilst watching NRL Scoreboard I see Beattie running across the field in the later stages of the match like hes a young man again, hardly the act of a big tired prop.

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Hair on your back, arse and the bridge of your nose doesn't count goose.

Your right.
But in your case when the hairs grow longer than 12cm in those parts, it has to be real worry.
You'd need about 4 hair brushes then wouldnt you for each body part?

 

[Nullajet]

Did you expect forwards to be in the kick chase?

I expect a striaght line in a kick chase....and that includes the forwards....if it means the line is a little slower getting there...so be it..better than that staggered TIRED kick chase that went through and allowed the try.

I can't believe you all think it was okay to have 3 changes ledt in the final 5 minutes as opposed to the knights using all theirs. 1 maybe for sure...but 3...why not get fresh legs out there...and who says Nutley can't be given a break?? Sure he is an 80 minute footballer and an excellent one at that...but we were playing with 17 versus 18...if anything we should have used up our changes before them..

It worried me for the final minutes...and I thought it would be our undoing to be honest....thank god it wasn't ......I could do without the stress.

 

[Anonymous]

Having a couple of changes ready was fine. Having 3 left over was too much.

It was clear that Raper sent out blokes he believed would win the game with their defense, however. Isemonger at hooker.

 

[Sharkies all the Way]

I can't believe you all think

Bit exaggerated, only a few. I dont deny we should have used em but sighting them as some big error is a bit harsh, at the end of the day Raper went well considering an early injury and got us through. Only IMO do I see the interchanges not having a major influence on the period where they got 3 quick tries

 

[Nullajet]

I'm not so sure it was the reason behind the three quick tries....but there was a definate period of time there that I thought the boys looked very tired..it worried me at the time....and that's why I was so surprised to see we had so many changes in hand.

In the end I'm not complaining abour Raper as a coach...I have been incredibly impressed with him and love the fact that we have a CRONULLA MAN at the helm...someone who shares the passion of the fans. It's been a return to what John Lang provided as far as I am concerned.

Let's hope the boys go from strength to strength....and use their changes wisely..

 

[Sharkies all the Way]

I agree, it seemed odd to me that we had 3 interchanges left and the boys didnt look 100% out their. I mainly protested Reefy from the point of view that it was stated:

If you want to ignore problems go ahead. I'm not forcing you to read them.
the interchanges could have been handled better.
As is evidenced by the 18 point scoring spree through minuts 50-60

I disagreed with the interchanged creating the scoring spree

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Well there is a bet each way if I have ever seen one.
You started off arguing that it was not a problem, got in over you head arguing about individual incedents rather than the overall performance, & now you concede that it was wrong the way that the interchanges were managed.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

& Kimmorley will be a good goal kicker too.

 

[Macca]

Just let him think he has won SATW. It's blatantly obvious that this bloke will never concede a point.

 

[Sharkies all the Way]

Well there is a bet each way if I have ever seen one.
You started off arguing that it was not a problem, got in over you head arguing about individual incedents rather than the overall performance, & now you concede that it was wrong the way that the interchanges were managed.


& Kimmorley will be a good goal kicker too.

You will note Reefy that I only initially starting arguing once you said

If you want to ignore problems go ahead. I'm not forcing you to read them.
the interchanges could have been handled better.
As is evidenced by the 18 point scoring spree through minuts 50-60

Your above post in this thread is a load of s**t if I have ever seen one, I have always said that we went well and that the interchange wasnt the problem which brought about those 3 quick tries :shock: #-o . And about me arguing individual incidents, the 'individual incidents' were the 3 tries, the 3 tries you believed were due to the interchange. Isnt that what you talk about if you are protesting that the interchange had no effect on them? #-o

You are right Reefy. You are always right. Can you provide me with some stats about avg interchange use, player perspriation, player fitness, player stamina and any other stat available concerning the game? :roll: