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hybrid_tiger

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What a load of sh*t! Do you like anybody in your supposed club?

Not a load of shit at all. Heighington is a good stats player. A whole hearted player who makes little impact. He hits the line and drops immediately, always runs at the markers, and never stings or punishes in defense.

IMO we suffer with him and Fulton on the park at the same time.
 

Ronnie Dobbs

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These two men, made a decision, when Todd Payten and Simon Dwyer were not able to back up for 2012 and beyond, to release Bryce Gibbs and Andrew Fifita. They bought Matt BELL (Who?) and Adam BLAIR. Seriously WTF is going on? Wests now have the SOFTEST pack in the NRL. They will argue that they are saving money, the only money they are saving is Blairs jersey wont need to be washed as it has not gotten dirty yet. Dumb & Dumber have to go.

:lol::lol:

Thats fuggin awesome.
 

simmo1

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He's been very underwhelming. I'm still backing him to come good, and still think the 'trade' for Gibbs (who has played 1/4 games) and Fifita (who wasn't good enough for our run on side) was the right call.
 

leoc

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I admit that Blair hasn't inspired me with what he has shown so far however he is hardly playing in a Storm squad that has structure to their game and are well coached in both attack and defence! Also, does he look 10 - 15kg lighter than he did in previous seasons? Has he been made to drop weight to play the Sheens mobile forward pack crap? Is this a contributing factor?
 

Mao the Tiger

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The only impressive stat is his minutes but so many of those minutes are 'tired minutes' and 'gone missing minutes'. The try against manly was an example of the threat he and lawerence can pose when the structure is right. How many losses til Shines makes a tough call ? On anyone? Many more if true to form
 
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The stats for Bell and Moors were good ie metres per hit up. They are up there with Woods and Ellis. So why does one (Bell) play ten mins a game; and the other gets booted.
 

God-King Dean

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Not a load of shit at all. Heighington is a good stats player. A whole hearted player who makes little impact. He hits the line and drops immediately, always runs at the markers, and never stings or punishes in defense.

IMO we suffer with him and Fulton on the park at the same time.

Oh thank god I'm not the only one who sees this.

Every hit-up he falls straight to his knees when he hits the line.

Forwards running at markers is a pet hate of mine. It seems Heighton runs directly at them. I'll never understand why some forwards do that.
 

37916319

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Oh thank god I'm not the only one who sees this.

Every hit-up he falls straight to his knees when he hits the line.

Forwards running at markers is a pet hate of mine. It seems Heighton runs directly at them. I'll never understand why some forwards do that.

That burns me too.

There was one instance where he clearly changed direction and ran at a marker who had fallen to his knees, got to within a meter if him and did the same. I remember it clearly cause it almost cost me a remote and a window.
 

Radical Rat

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Not a load of shit at all. Heighington is a good stats player. A whole hearted player who makes little impact. He hits the line and drops immediately, always runs at the markers, and never stings or punishes in defense.

IMO we suffer with him and Fulton on the park at the same time.


Totally agree, Heighington has absolutely zero impact. He's not big enough to play in the middle of the field. His constant running at the markers has become tiresome and useless. This is only a good ploy when your forward pack is actually going forward. Problem is we are constantly dominated in the ruck and the markers then have time to set themselves.

Fulton runs much better lines and gives our pack a point of difference. If Blair stands up, then a backrow of Ellis, Blair, Fulton would be awesome IMO.

But f**k me it's about time Blair stood up. Those stats of his previous seasons are seriously alarming. I hate to say it, but there is a big chance this is a good as it gets with him. But let's not forget he's only 25 or something so it's not like he should be on the decline. Sheens needs to work him into some more plays or change his role completely. Because we are not utilising him like we should be.
 

dumpy

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Heighington has been doing this for years - all I can gather is that it must be coached into him because he does it automatically without exception.
When fifita was a tiger he continually ran sideways. If coach was up to scratch, a well placed swift kick to the genitals would have realigned him immediately, solving the crab like approach.
 

hybrid_tiger

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Have to agree with ya mate.

Instead of taking a shot at me personally, how about you tell me why I'm wrong?

Or will I get the "you're not a supporter line" again?

The truth hurts for some. Heighington is a very ineffective player. Stop looking at stats, most of the time they are meaningless.
 

Tiger Hawk

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The running at marker thing is to try and get a quick ptb / draw a penalty I would imagine. As others have said, it's only effective if your pack is going forward.

Look Hino is a luxury in your pack if you've got the rest going forward - kind of like Hindmarsh. Will pop the occasional off-load, still has great hands, generally low error-rate and will make 30-40 "non-dominant" tackles, where he's often third man in, and have 10-15 runs for 75 metres. As one of the higher paid forwards (I would imagine), he's a luxury we can't afford.
 
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TimmyB

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Heighington is the absolute least of our worries at this point. There may be some merit in what you're saying, but I don't see much point in kicking the ribs of one of the few guys having a dig.
 

hybrid_tiger

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Heighington is the absolute least of our worries at this point. There may be some merit in what you're saying, but I don't see much point in kicking the ribs of one of the few guys having a dig.

I'm not kicking him, just discussing what he brings to the side. I have never, ever questioned his effort. He is a wholehearted player who always gives 110 per cent but IMO we suffer with both he and Fulton in the same team.

Almost every time Heighington takes a hit up I feel as though it is basically a waste of a tackle. Like Tiger Hawk said, I would not have an issue with Heighington if our pack went forward and dominated every week but it doesn't. We are relying on him for go forward and he doesn't provide it.

The running at the markers worked in 2005, seven years later and Sheens is still using it as a ploy. You just have to shake your head.
 

hybrid_tiger

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Heighington a passenger?

Not sure I like where this is going, lads...

I wouldn't go as far as calling him a passenger, I just think we have to realistically alter his role.

His lack of leg drive is a huge issue IMO, everytime he hits the line he almost always drops immediately. He is easily dominated with the ball.

For mine he is not and never was an 80 minute player. He should be utilised in short bursts off the bench. But look at the other starting locks in the NRL and see what they offer, e.g Fensom at the Raiders, Stewart at Manly etc. They have high workrates but the difference is they dent the line in attack and are very aggressive in defense. Heighington always has excellent stats but stats have never measured impact and IMO he provides little of it.

Just my opinion. I don't mean to bag the guy as he has a heart of gold and always puts in, I just think he is very ineffective for us.
 

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