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AFL is done pinching rugby league players: Demetriou

docbrown

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Why has this thread picked up again? haven't seen anything in the media linkin players to the afl

It's just the humour of the mixed messages.

Demetriou to Sydney audience - We can all get along

Demetriou to Melbourne audience - We'll take NRL players if it offers a strategic advantage

But of course there is no code war. All is well.

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Tommax25

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My favourite part about this article is the sheer, blinding, unapologetic arrogance on behalf of the AFL, the writer and everyone involved.

"The AFL is going to make sure that this thing works," he said. "They have the cash and I don't think anyone from Sydney understands what they are in for. Rugby league will be the loser."

They are basically saying Sydneysiders will follow whatever they are told to follow, are sheep, are easily bought, that the AFL has no regard for they currently already like and care only about propogating their own interests at the expense of the happiness of the populace. And this is a GOOD thing. GTFO out of my f**king state, wankers.
 
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My favourite part about this article is the sheer, blinding, unapologetic arrogance on behalf of the AFL, the writer and everyone involved.

"The AFL is going to make sure that this thing works," he said. "They have the cash and I don't think anyone from Sydney understands what they are in for. Rugby league will be the loser."

They are basically saying Sydneysiders will follow whatever they are told to follow, are sheep, are easily bought, that they have no regard for they currently already like and only about propogating their own interests. And this is a GOOD thing. GTFO out of my f**king state, wankers.
:clap::clap::clap:
 

clarency

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This whole "AFL will dominate West Sydney" is anti productive.

We may not have money but we can be happy to know that basic psychology of people in general favours us in this scenario.

Reactance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactance_(psychology)

"Reactance can occur when someone is heavily pressured to accept a certain view or attitude. Reactance can cause the person to adopt or strengthen a view or attitude that is contrary to what was intended"
 

The Engineers Room

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I wouldn't know the names of more than 4 AFL players. And I would say that at least 98% of other people who live in western Sydney would either.

Its the media that whips up the enthusiasm. We need to address this.
 

El Diablo

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Jonathan Brown would not last a single hit up.

not according to bigpoofy

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=21237973&postcount=30

As a league player and long-time watcher (and to non-league watchers, some stuff in this post that assumes basic knowledge of the game...)

Brown would make an ideal ball-playing second rower in the mould of David Taylor or Paul Gallen. Would a league club ever actually do it? I doubt it, because of how he would revolutionise the game completely, and introduce a new skill set the code is not prepared for (See below for explanation)

Bear in mind that Dally Messenger originally played AFL before playing union and league, with his ability to kick with both feet and his all-round tactical play revolutionising both rugby codes at the time.

A disclaimer - Brown would need a good pre-season in the gym to strengthen bones and build muscle. His tackling technique would need a lot of work as well - attack would be his strength and defence his weakness.

For those who don't know what I mean about Dave Taylor, he is 187cm & 122kg. In top form, he forms a key part of the South Sydney attacking line, doing incredible things for a man his size. Flick passes to his outside centre Greg Inglis, grubber kicks through (forwards don't normally kick at all), leaping over packs to catch and score, busting tackles, and pulling off big hits. But... he rarely plays more than 60 minutes in a match.

Now imagine Jonathan Brown 10kgs heavier, at right second-row for the Broncos, with Justin Hodges & Jharal Yow Yeh outside him. It could lead to the most revolutionary changes in the history of the modern game of rugby league. By this I mean - a big man with the capacity to pick up the moving ball off the deck and bust through defenders from a low body position as well as leap over defenders and catch and score or tap back to the centre or winger to score. At present, most attacking kicks are directed to the right or left centre/wing, with a small minority in the direction of the second-rower and centre just outside the posts. With a player like Brown in the team, attacking kicks would no longer be to the edges of play, but would instead target the area around the goal posts, where a confident leaping Brown would crash a pack of nervous forwards waiting under the ball or leaping haphazardly to catch and score, or catch and tap wide to the centre from the air. The threat of this happening would also increase the likelihood of opposition centres/wingers moving to midfield to defend attacking kicks, opening up new ball-running attacking plays on the outside edge. In league, an attacking kick is generally one close to the try line, usually as a grubber, chip kick, bomb or cross-field kick. Could Brown easily adapt his AFL kicking skills to execute the latter 3 very effectively? I believe so. So now, to add to hard-running, committed attack, aerial dominance, and ground-level work, imagine an extra kicking option close to the line. From 30 metres out, with the opposition expecting him as most second-rowers do to run the line or pass, Brown kicks high across-field with pinpoint accuracy to a flying fullback or winger. Then add the component of the best defensive kicker from inside his own half in the competition with the capacity to accurately drop punt the ball 60 plus metres into space, and you have a lethal combination.

That's why I think a club really wouldn't do it, unless they had been struggling for a significant period of time and wanted a real shakeup to the status quo and a major competitive advantage. Could other clubs combat it? Sure. By moving their best centres into the second row (Idris, Inglis, Hodges - none of whom could kick anything like Brown), they might be able to compete in the air and on the ground. Would they then get run over by sides with bigger, stronger second-rows when not competing against the team with Brown in it?
Rugby league does not like change, even when it is change for the better, change for more exciting, attractive play. That means we are unlikely to see a real AFL superstar in the NRL anytime soon.
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juro

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Jonathan Brown would not last a single hit up.
Is he related to this guy?
Bobby-brown-my-prerogative.jpg
 

age.s

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Rugby league does not like change, even when it is change for the better, change for more exciting, attractive play.

:lol:

He sure does know his League :crazy:
 

Nerd

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Jonathan Brown has been repeatedly injured playing AFL. He wouldn't last 2 hit ups let alone do all that other nonsense...
 

hineyrulz

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My favourite part about this article is the sheer, blinding, unapologetic arrogance on behalf of the AFL, the writer and everyone involved.

"The AFL is going to make sure that this thing works," he said. "They have the cash and I don't think anyone from Sydney understands what they are in for. Rugby league will be the loser."

They are basically saying Sydneysiders will follow whatever they are told to follow, are sheep, are easily bought, that the AFL has no regard for they currently already like and care only about propogating their own interests at the expense of the happiness of the populace. And this is a GOOD thing. GTFO out of my f**king state, wankers.
:clap::clap::clap: The thing they don't get is people from NSW and QLD are not blind sheep who will follow a sport just because some fat greek turd burgular says so. The more they stick this crap down our throats the more we will hate their Vicky Kicky game of shit.
 

Brutus

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...e-pacific-giants/story-e6frexwr-1226317866150



Nic Naitanui v Israel Folau in clash in the Pacific giants
It will be western Sydney's ultimate international contest.

GWS coach Kevin Sheedy wants to play Israel Folau on Nic Naitanui in the battle of the giants at Blacktown on Sunday week.
Two of the most gifted athletes in the AFL running head to head in the ruck when GWS have their one and only match for premiership points at their training base against West Coast.
"Just imagine, you're going to have a situation coming up at Blacktown's first-ever game between a Fijian and a boy from Tonga," Sheedy enthused to the Daily Telegraph yesterday.
"Fair dinkum, it's a promoter's dream, an absolute promoter's dream.
"I'm only praying that neither of them get injured before that match."
This clash will be the ultimate advertisement for the AFL in rugby league heartland.
While both players have proud Pacific Island heritage Folau and Naitanui are actually products of western Sydney.
Folau was born in Minto while Naitanui was born in Penrith before their families moved to Queensland and Perth, respectively, producing an NRL star and one of the most remarkable AFL players to pull on a boot.
Sheedy and the AFL hope their clash will strengthen the magnet to draw some of the many thousands of islanders in western Sydney away from the rugby codes.
"That guy's a freak," Sheedy said of Naitanui after spending the weekend in Melbourne watching the Eagles carve up the Western Bulldogs.
Given his raw stage of development the best position for Folau appears to be in the ruck given his body size and outstanding vertical leap.
Can the Giants then afford to have former Port Adelaide premiership ruckman Dean Brogan, 33, in the same side as Folau, who turned 23 yesterday, and leading big man Jonathan Giles, 24, who was once understudy to Brogan at the Power?
Sheedy suggested not, instead promoting the credentials of the 2-metre Tasmanian Andrew Phillips, 20.

Words fail me.

But but but....we only want to co-exist...
 

elbusto

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"Just imagine, you're going to have a situation coming up at Blacktown's first-ever game between a Fijian and a boy from Tonga," Sheedy enthused to the Daily Telegraph yesterday.

Folau was born in Minto while Naitanui was born in Penrith before their families moved to Queensland and Perth, respectively, producing an NRL star and one of the most remarkable AFL players to pull on a boot.


So one boy is not from Tonga and the other is not Fijian at all. Am I missing something?
 

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