AFL looking shaky on the Goldy - Go Searle

[nqboy]

Ron Clarke is a bloody tool. His having a major sook up here.

What's he saying?

 

[LESStar58]

Considering the amount of sponsorship that the club gets, as well as a new stadium coming up, I don't believe that would be the case. I agree that in the last 10 years it would have been the case, as it took a lot of money to get the team going, and it probably would have fallen over if News stopped funding it, but I think the club is now strong enough to stand on it's own 2 feet.

Exactly. The Storm's jersey is the 2nd most valued uniform in the NRL (I think the Broncos get the most jersey sponsor revenue). When you consider that we have;

• medibank Private
• Hostplus
• Jayco
• Mortgage House
• Reebok

thats a lot of cash from 5 different sponsors. Surely theres sponsorship dollars from reebok in addition to being the apparel sponsor.

In addition, the Storm jersey is up there in terms of sponsorship dollars wit some of the biggest AFL clubs, Collingwood & essendon among them. We may not be expected to compete with AFL teams bt we can certainly get more bang for our buck than most of them when it comes to people willing to sponsor us!

 

[TITAN1]

I think Souths might have something to say about that...

 

[dallymessenger]

Considering the amount of sponsorship that the club gets, as well as a new stadium coming up, I don't believe that would be the case. I agree that in the last 10 years it would have been the case, as it took a lot of money to get the team going, and it probably would have fallen over if News stopped funding it, but I think the club is now strong enough to stand on it's own 2 feet.

they lost $3 million last year. the new ground though will help a lot, as will the rise in the NRL grant. they have to become sustainable financially

 

[Dogs Of War]

I think people underestimate how important a new ground is. That oval they have currently puts people too far away from the action. Once everybody is a bit closer, Melbourne will add 5K to their season averages.

 

[macavity]

I think Souths might have something to say about that...

FTR Newcastle are believed to make the most from sponsorship out of any club - and have the largest number of sponsors.

our C&A sponsorship alone is more than a number of clubs make overall

(source - Newcastle Herald article when C&A re-signed recently)

 

[Lockyer4President!]

I think people underestimate how important a new ground is. That oval they have currently puts people too far away from the action. Once everybody is a bit closer, Melbourne will add 5K to their season averages.

Not to mention the much improved corporate facilities.

 

[Perth Red]

The Reds drew 28,000 and 24,000 to there first two games. It showed what potential there was if the NRL had stuck by them. Yes their crowds dropped dramatically, yes they were in debt but that was no different to every SL club back then. RL has a long history of shooting itself in the gonads and the decision to axe Perth was just one amongst many major c0ck ups along the way. I would wager that a Perth team would have more home grown players, bigger crowds and stronger income after 10 years than teh Storm had.

Since the Reds were killed off Perth has got another AFL team a soccer team and now a S14 team. Shows what potential is here if only the NRL would open their eyes.

 

[dallymessenger]

The Reds drew 28,000 and 24,000 to there first two games. It showed what potential there was if the NRL had stuck by them. Yes their crowds dropped dramatically, yes they were in debt but that was no different to every SL club back then. RL has a long history of shooting itself in the gonads and the decision to axe Perth was just one amongst many major c0ck ups along the way. I would wager that a Perth team would have more home grown players, bigger crowds and stronger income after 10 years than teh Storm had.

Since the Reds were killed off Perth has got another AFL team a soccer team and now a S14 team. Shows what potential is here if only the NRL would open their eyes.

maybe the reds would still be around today if they hadnt chosen to vote with SL.

that there is no NRL team in perth today is the fault of the old club to go with SL.

its the price paid for being disloyal. dont whinge that their is no team there now, its not the fault of the ARL. indeed, that the ARL is funding their travel costs this year in the JBM is a fantastic gesture. it shows the ARLs interest in developing the game.

the reds stabbed the ARL in the back and went to news ltd, then news ltd then returned the favour and killed them off when they got what they wanted from the SL war - the Pay TV rights. Karma

 

[dimitri]

maybe the reds would still be around today if they hadnt chosen to vote with SL.

that there is no NRL team in perth today is the fault of the old club to go with SL.

its the price paid for being disloyal. dont whinge that their is no team there now, its not the fault of the ARL. indeed, that the ARL is funding their travel costs this year in the JBM is a fantastic gesture. it shows the ARLs interest in developing the game.

the reds stabbed the ARL in the back and went to news ltd, then news ltd then returned the favour and killed them off when they got what they wanted from the SL war - the Pay TV rights. Karma

We have been through this before

The Reds didn't have a choice.

The ARL forced them to pay for all travel costs and ALL travel costs for away teams when they were playing at home - they began losing money fast and didn't have a choice - when SL came along with an open cheque book!

The ARL/SL peace deal was one of the stupidest things ever in the history of RL

 

[Perth Red]

I don't blame the ARL (totally) for the demise of the Reds, it was an NRL decision (who happen to be part ARL). Nor do I blame the Reds management for siding with SL, at the time it was the only decison they could make given the money the ARL v SL were both offering the club and the financial position the club was in (due in big part to the ridiculous travel cost scenario).

Whoever made the decison and for whatever reason it was mind blowingly stupid and the sooner the Reds are back in the NRl the better.

 

[t-ba]

The Reds were cut before the NRL was formed FFS!

They got punted on the 1st of October, Rupert Agreed to negotiate with the ARL on the 7th!

Get the timelines right...

 

[dallymessenger]

I don't blame the ARL (totally) for the demise of the Reds, it was an NRL decision (who happen to be part ARL). Nor do I blame the Reds management for siding with SL, at the time it was the only decison they could make given the money the ARL v SL were both offering the club and the financial position the club was in (due in big part to the ridiculous travel cost scenario).

Whoever made the decison and for whatever reason it was mind blowingly stupid and the sooner the Reds are back in the NRl the better.

they chose the money, they deal with the consuequences.

thats what happens when you are a w**re. sometimes the client takes his money to the best looking hoo*er. you guys werent good looking enough and lost the cash.

i blame the reds for the fact that they no longer exist in the nrl.

its their fault, so stop trying to pin the blame elsewhere.

if clubs like the reds had been more grateful about being admitted into the ARL, theyd probably be around today.

that they arent is their own fault, so balme them.

thank god the ARL dont hold a grudge and are covering their travel costs. how much are News Ltd putting into their budget?

 

[dallymessenger]

We have been through this before

The Reds didn't have a choice.

The ARL forced them to pay for all travel costs and ALL travel costs for away teams when they were playing at home - they began losing money fast and didn't have a choice - when SL came along with an open cheque book!

The ARL/SL peace deal was one of the stupidest things ever in the history of RL

did the ARL force them into the competition as well.

im sure that was discussed as part of their entry into the arl and they agreed to it at the time because they wanted to get in.

when someone came along with a better offer, they sold their ar&&s to the highest bidder.

its karma that news ltd then killed them off once they got the Pay TV rights that they were after all along.

so much for the News Ltd vision. they talked about RL in china, then didnt even want to fund RL in WA.

 

[Perth Red]

thank god the ARL dont hold a grudge and are covering their travel costs. how much are News Ltd putting into their budget?

Nothing, hell we can't even get the NRL to give us a game or two. Fortunately for the sport the ARL are doing what they are there to do which is develop the grassroots of the game. Whether in NSW, Tasmania or WA that is their role.

Gallop is a visionless stooge and I doubt very much if it was left to him we would ever have a NATIONAL RL.

You have no idea what the situation was for the Reds in 96 so keep believing what you want to believe if it helps you sleep better at night.m(Interestingly I haven't read you suggesting the NRL would be better off without the NSW and Q'land SL clubs, is it SL or just expansion you don't like?)

 

[stitch6004]

Nothing, hell we can't even get the NRL to give us a game or two. Fortunately for the sport the ARL are doing what they are there to do which is develop the grassroots of the game. Whether in NSW, Tasmania or WA that is their role.

I believe you are mistaken there perth red as warl have not sought a game from the nrl since 2005 as the force kicked off here last year and they are focusing on the jim beam cup next year


Gallop is a visionless stooge and I doubt very much if it was left to him we would ever have a NATIONAL RL.

gallop alone does not make the decisions it is the board of the nrl

You have no idea what the situation was for the Reds in 96 so keep believing what you want to believe if it helps you sleep better at night.m(Interestingly I haven't read you suggesting the NRL would be better off without the NSW and Q'land SL clubs, is it SL or just expansion you don't like?)

 

[dallymessenger]

Nothing, hell we can't even get the NRL to give us a game or two. Fortunately for the sport the ARL are doing what they are there to do which is develop the grassroots of the game. Whether in NSW, Tasmania or WA that is their role.

Gallop is a visionless stooge and I doubt very much if it was left to him we would ever have a NATIONAL RL.

You have no idea what the situation was for the Reds in 96 so keep believing what you want to believe if it helps you sleep better at night.m(Interestingly I haven't read you suggesting the NRL would be better off without the NSW and Q'land SL clubs, is it SL or just expansion you don't like?)

david gallop runs the nrl

the arl is totally different altogether, they dont control allocation of nrl games

RL was thriving in australia for 100 years being based in sydney, and its hardly struggling now without perth either.

i love expansion. but when expansion clubs hurt the game as a whole, then ill just go for a strong game.

perth chose their destiny with news ltd and got shafted. stop whinging

 

[TITAN1]

FTR Newcastle are believed to make the most from sponsorship out of any club - and have the largest number of sponsors.

our C&A sponsorship alone is more than a number of clubs make overall

(source - Newcastle Herald article when C&A re-signed recently)

Fairy nuff.

Was just pointing out that other teams have a strong presence when it comes to marketing,not just melbourne.