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AFL take the moral high ground

typicalfan

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A few days ago there was a small snippet in the Herald Sun (wish now I had kept the newspaper ) where a stripper was hired pre-match by one of the suburban or country afl teams to entertain the players. The end result was that the team won by 10 goals.

I wonder how that story slipped past the afl.:?
Well that is the issue isn't it. I heard about that paying to be in the locker rooms but it creates next to no headlines yet Mason gets headlines saying "latest NRL scandal" for his seemingly insignificant act by comparison.
 

Kiki

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haahahahaah omg that guy. what an absolute tosser. i have no words. i am literally speechless.
 

russ13

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True, but they keep refering to RL's past linking the events which they never do in AFL.

They even talk about the Bulldogs "incident" even after all these years and knowing that there was NO rape or assault at the time.


On your later point - here is a reference:
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/05/03/1083436517148.html?from=storylhs
Bulldogs won't make complaint against woman
May 3, 2004

The Canterbury Bulldogs will not be making a public mischief complaint against a woman who alleged she was raped by six members of the rugby league team, their lawyer said today.

Jim Young was responding to suggestions police may be obliged to charge the 20-year-old woman at the centre of the rape allegations with public mischief, if a complaint was made.
Asked whether the Bulldogs would be making any complaint Mr Young said: "Well no, certainly not through the Bulldogs. If there is anything about public mischief, the police will be interested in that part of it anyway."
ABC radio reported today that a public mischief charge could be lodged against the woman at the centre of the rape allegation after police last week said there wasn't enough evidence to proceed with charges.
The ABC said it had documents which detailed the police investigation, showing the woman had consensual sex with five players three days before the alleged rape at the Pacific Bay Resort in Coffs Harbour on February 22.


It said medical evidence and photographs of the woman's body were inconsistent with the treatment she claimed to have received from a group of players.
Detective Chief Inspector Jason Breton, the officer in charge of the investigation, said he had no comment to make on the matter.

The AFL incident at the same time:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/03/17/1079199295829.html
 
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parano1a

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A few days ago there was a small snippet in the Herald Sun (wish now I had kept the newspaper ) where a stripper was hired pre-match by one of the suburban or country afl teams to entertain the players. The end result was that the team won by 10 goals.

I wonder how that story slipped past the afl.:?

It was a front page story and involved a VAFA team, not an AFL team. Nothing to do with AFL.
 

El Diablo

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and here we have another one from lay down Sally http://blogs.watoday.com.au/sallystandsup/2009/05/25/whenwillthen.html

When will the NRL learn?

May 25, 2009

The questions are: Can and how will the NRL recover from their disgraced image? Why does the disrespect for women seem to be the culture in rugby league?

Having moved from a predominantly AFL state to somewhere that idolises its NRL players, it baffles me that the same pattern of poor off-field behaviour is evident. It also makes me wonder why the hierarchy in these football codes continues to accept this from these "role models".

I was horrified and disgusted when I heard what happened on that night in New Zealand with the Sharks players and my initial reaction was sympathy for the woman that was involved.

Whether it was consensual or not, does not change the fact that none of the players involved spoke up or said that it was wrong and put a stop to what was going on.

Do they not have any self respect or question their own integrity? How would they feel if that was their sister, daughter, wife or mother?

Was it because of this "gang or pack" mentality that is evident in the NRL?

In my experience on tours with sports in which I have been involved, there has always been gender equality and respect on all levels within the team.

This makes me wonder why it seems more prominent in male-dominated sports.

Having only one player coming forward and admitting to the incident I think is appalling.

Where are the rest of the perpetrators?

I recently spoke to a rugby coach about the issue and I believe the culture can be changed through education. However, it is the responsibility of the coaches and team leaders to establish an honourable environment.

High profile sports people need to realise that they are in the public eye and unfortunately this extends to their private lives.

This behaviour is unacceptable and strict boundaries need to be introduced and abided by on and off the field.
 
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Interesting article, posted in TFC by Taipan...

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,25528095-948,00.html

SPECIAL REPORT: A MELBOURNE woman has revealed she has had sex with up to 200 AFL players in the past 12 years.
But she doesn't care what people might call her, much less think about her -- she has no regrets and is far from ashamed by what many would consider degrading behaviour.

Late-night phone calls from AFL players asking for sex, drunken group sex with up to 12 players at a time and a notorious reputation are all part of the life of a footy groupie.

The woman is in her 30s and asked to be identified publicly as ``Amy''.

In two lengthy face-to-face interviews with Melbourne's Sunday Herald-Sun, she spoke widely of her encounters with AFL players and the group-sex culture within footy.

She also strongly defended the players she has been involved with.

Her identity is known to many in AFL circles and she said she still received regular text messages from players asking for sex.

It has been confirmed a number of AFL club presidents were aware of her sexual involvement with footballers.

Outraged at the treatment of former NRL star and TV personality Matthew Johns, Amy said judgmental attitudes about sex had to end and what happened in people's private lives was their own business.

But a leading academic questioned the culture of group sex among AFL players.

University of Melbourne gender expert Lauren Rose-warne said it was difficult for a woman to provide consent in group-sex situations.

She also said a group of men having sex with the one woman was ``homo-erotic''.

``There's 12 men in the room and none of them has asked themselves, `Is this the right thing to do?','' Dr Rosewarne said.

Amy criticised a New Zealand woman who spoke to the ABC's Four Corners program this month about a group-sex incident with Johns and Cronulla Sharks players seven years ago.

``I want to come out and defend the guys. I find it appalling this woman would speak out and exploit other people,'' said Amy, who provided a statutory declaration, witnessed by a policeman, to support her story.

Amy said she enjoyed group sex because she liked being the centre of attention and knew there were no strings attached.

She had never felt degraded by being the plaything of a room full of men. Instead, she said, it had made her feel ``powerful''.

``(Group sex) is not just an NRL thing, it's not just an AFL thing, it's a male culture,'' she said.

Amy is aware of the consequences of being outed as a woman involved in group sex.

She has worked for a number of AFL clubs in administration and office roles, and said she had been sacked from more than one club for having casual relationships with players.

She said she would not publicly name the players she had slept with.

``No one has a right to ruin people's families,'' she said.

But she did not regret sleeping with married players and argued it was a private matter between them and their wives if the men were cheating on them.

``I was single, I never cheated on anybody,'' she said.

Amy revealed a culture of group sex in the AFL, claiming she'd had sex with up to 12 players from the same club at one time.

She'd had group encounters with players from many AFL clubs, which she identified to the Sunday Herald-Sun.

She used to meet groups of players in hotel rooms, at players' homes and sometimes at her share-houses.

``But it was always consensual and they always treated me with respect,'' she said.

Amy had enjoyed group sex with footballers because she wanted to be wanted by such fit, powerful men.

Group sex was attractive because she knew it was purely a physical act.

The group-sex sessions had not involved alcohol about 60 per cent of time. Often it was midweek, after the players' training session.

She said having group sex meant it was clear there was no chance of an ongoing relationship, which meant players could not ``break her heart''.

``It was a little bit of fun. I liked being the centre of attention,'' she said.

``The next day I would wake up and get on with my life and have something to talk about with the girls over coffee.''

Amy said she had no regrets about her encounters.

``I'm not embarrassed that it happened to me,'' she said.

``I didn't get emotionally attached. They were great people to hang out with, but I knew nothing would ever eventuate from it. But I wasn't looking for a footballer as a boyfriend, anyway.''

Boyfriends who did break her heart -- those she regretted being involved with -- had not been AFL players.

Amy started meeting AFL footballers in 1997.

``(I have slept with) about 150 to 200. I used to keep a diary, but I lost that. I didn't put what the list was about, it just had names in it.

``I stopped counting about five years ago.''

She said she had ongoing relationships with several players; others she labelled as ``one-offs''.

Amy said group sex was common with AFL players, but also happened in other sectors of Victorian industry.

During group sessions, Amy would meet players in a room and they would take turns.

Though she said her encounters were safe, she was often drunk and was unsure how long the encounters had lasted.

She admitted using drugs at times during some encounters. She was never paid for sex, nor was she was offered any money.

Amy is a former school captain and dux of several subjects in her final year.

She started meeting AFL players when she moved from country Victoria to Melbourne 12 years ago.

She loved football and had always wanted to be involved with the industry.

She said women should take a more liberal attitude to sex.

``I'm all for equality; guys can get a notch on their belts, why can't I?'' she said. ``There is still a double standard in football.''

Amy said no AFL player had ever been disrespectful or forced her into any sexual act. She practised safe sex.

But she was upset that some players had passed her mobile number on to friends.

She said she would often receive ``booty calls'' from people she did not know, asking for sex.

``I never rang anyone, they always rang me. I don't do the whole booty call thing,'' she said.

But Amy said there were some predatory women in football circles.

Women would ``stalk'' players on social-networking site Facebook, she said.
They would find out where players drank and turn up at the pubs looking for attention.

But Amy questioned the motives of some of her fellow groupies.

``They are only doing it for money, they want their profiles enhanced,'' she said.

``I have seen girls lined up to jump into their beds.''

As part of this interview, Amy agreed to be photographed and provided her resume, with included prominent AFL identities and former players as referees.

Referees contacted by The Sunday Times confirmed they knew Amy and her employment record.

Amy said she had declined offers of money from TV stations and magazines to talk about her lifestyle.

Details of her encounters emerged after an AFL player passed on her number to an FM radio station about a month ago.

During an off-air interview, she named players she had slept with.

But she said after the interview, she had second thoughts and asked the station to remove names from the interview if it was to run.

The radio station decided not to run the interview. Station management this week confirmed the contents of the interview, saying the woman discussed many sexual encounters with AFL players.

When approached by The Sunday Times, Amy was happy to speak. She was not paid for the interview.

Recently unemployed, Amy said she still wanted to work in the football industry, but her reputation saw her applications knocked back.

Amy said her days of serial sex with AFL players were over; her last group sex session was three years ago.

Now she wanted to settle down and have a family.

She has only had two serious boyfriends, with the longest relationship lasting six months.

But she hoped her past would not be a barrier to becoming a wife and a mother.

``It's only been in the past five years that I have been thinking that, because I absolutely adore and love kids,'' she said.

``As you get older, your priorities change, your focuses in life change.''
 

taipan

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I think after today the only ground the AFL can take is the Melbourne cricket ground.The moral high ground crumbled under the sweating weight of 200 horny AFL players.
The bleeding club presidents knew it was going on.
Andrew Demetriou AFL CEO had better start wearing chainmail armour,because he is about to take more than a few hits.
 

typicalfan

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I think after today the only ground the AFL can take is the Melbourne cricket ground.The moral high ground crumbled under the sweating weight of 200 horny AFL players.
The bleeding club presidents knew it was going on.
Andrew Demetriou AFL CEO had better start wearing chainmail armour,because he is about to take more than a few hits.
I would prefer to know that ground as the ground that holds the Boxing Day Test.
 

Brutus

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Even supposed independent AFL websites are in on the cover up culture in that code.
 
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Perth Red

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Just to stop you feeling hard done by the AFL gang bang story made a full two page spread in near the front of the paper in AFL land. See it isn't just RL that makes the news!
 

El Diablo

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Just to stop you feeling hard done by the AFL gang bang story made a full two page spread in near the front of the paper in AFL land. See it isn't just RL that makes the news!

it has never been mentioned on TV here once and there has not been one follow up article about it

they've buried it
 
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Just to stop you feeling hard done by the AFL gang bang story made a full two page spread in near the front of the paper in AFL land. See it isn't just RL that makes the news!

Yeah, and how much follow up will there be?

It's the same with almost every AFL story, big for a day then any follow up is on page 44 or doesn't happen. It takes a monumental f**k-up like Ben Cousins to get any worthwhile follow up.

Whereas when it's the NRL it's front page news for a week or two.
 

j5o6hn

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Living in Perth as I do I agree it got a centre spread in the Sundry Times,but as fot Talk back nothing,The West, Nothing, in the Southern states self censorship is the rule over AFL scandal storys
 

Brutus

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It's the same with almost every AFL story, big for a day then any follow up is on page 44 or doesn't happen. It takes a monumental f**k-up like Ben Cousins to get any worthwhile follow up.

And when there is a monumental f**k-up, AFL culture is never put into question.
 

Perth Red

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we should be looking at AFL with envy not disdain and learning how they control the media so well.
 

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