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AFL winning the PR war

Perth Red

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Is there really only 24 rugby league clubs across metropolitan and regional Victoria? Is that where all the players come from that play league in that State?

Boy 24 seems to be very small and overwhelmingly disappointing if that is the only presence RL has other the the NRL (Storm) team.

You get out what you put in. ARLC continues to massively underfund the expansion states so what would you expect? WA has 25 clubs across the State. After that NT has 7 clubs, SA 5 clubs and Tas none.

Thats basically around 60 clubs for half the country, pretty poor indictment of the games growth. AFL has more than that in NSW/ACT alone, not because its a better game but because they have invested in growing it.
 

mongoose

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Do the figures include Touch? The NRL seriously needs to push touch hard in the other states. It's League's biggest weapon against AFL at the participation level, in that it requires a low amount of players, not a lot of space and is perfect for mixed games. The AFL has nothing comparable to it.
 

Cumberland Throw

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I don't read AFL propaganda..

I just know a at least 7 families with kids who play AFL in league heartland ..

They all like league as well.. but Afl is less rough. More casual.. doesn't have training after school.. is on Sunday morning .. etc
 

taipan

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I don't read AFL propaganda..

I just know a at least 7 families with kids who play AFL in league heartland ..

They all like league as well.. but Afl is less rough. More casual.. doesn't have training after school.. is on Sunday morning .. etc


You don't need to read AFL propaganda, it's in the daily press and the TV.The Editor of the D.T is a WA person who follows AFL.It's almost a case of force feeding.
Maybe you should spell out to the families ,what happened to the AFL player who had his teeth smashed in recently,al la Barry hall style.And sadly a female AFL player who lost her life due to head injury.Contact comes from any direction(the 360 degree notion)in that game.
There have been a number of examples in the Southern States,that received little and or brief publicity no publicity here.

Did you mention that last year 3 young AFL players had to cease playing the code, because of constant concussion.It rarely gets mentioned in the Sydney media.AFL pushes the family friendly safe not rough angle.
All sports are family friendly in the main.And anyone with half a clue ,can see the off the ball contact,the bumps and cheap shots that happen in that code.
The AFL journos brush off these acts as fast as they can, whereas the RL media continues on with it,then bring it up again.
If the situation happened in Sydney like what happened in Victoria,teh message might get through.
 

Hoofhearted

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I don't read AFL propaganda..

I just know a at least 7 families with kids who play AFL in league heartland ..

They all like league as well.. but Afl is less rough. More casual.. doesn't have training after school.. is on Sunday morning .. etc
Well I can tell you its the opposite in WA, my 12yo plays AFL and trains twice a week and they need to be at the ground 1 hour before the game on Saturday. Next year they have to where dress clothes to the ground on gameday, and the club he plays for is considered on of the casual less serious ones.
They are just buttering up people in NSW to get them to play by making it "less rough" and "more casual", if you watch junior league compared to junior AFL league is way safer, young kids don't hit like adults they more or less cuddle each other to the ground. In junior AFL kids are always getting hit from behind and all the bullshit off the ball niggle has already started at even 12yo's.
 

sensesmaybenumbed

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Well I can tell you its the opposite in WA, my 12yo plays AFL and trains twice a week and they need to be at the ground 1 hour before the game on Saturday. Next year they have to where dress clothes to the ground on gameday, and the club he plays for is considered on of the casual less serious ones.
They are just buttering up people in NSW to get them to play by making it "less rough" and "more casual", if you watch junior league compared to junior AFL league is way safer, young kids don't hit like adults they more or less cuddle each other to the ground. In junior AFL kids are always getting hit from behind and all the bullshit off the ball niggle has already started at even 12yo's.


Well, I've got kids and I'd be damned if I'd leave them in the care of an organisation with a ceo who thinks it's ok to pay hush money to buy the silence of sexual assault victims.
 

ParraEelsNRL

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That is the attitude that will unfortunately not see our great game grow.

You have to care about the rest of Australia because the AFL do and they are coming.
RL is played outside of Australia, it was played outside of Australia before it was even heard of in Australia, WTF are you going on about when your code is still struggling for relevance beyond the Victorian border?

Your little code is going backwards, and has been going backwards for over 100 years. It was after all the first sport/football code out here set up 50 years supposedly before RL even existed. It is the other codes that actually have taken areas off fumbles, not the other way around.

And still girt by sea.

But but but RL is going backwards they say, HA.
 

Perth Red

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Do the figures include Touch? The NRL seriously needs to push touch hard in the other states. It's League's biggest weapon against AFL at the participation level, in that it requires a low amount of players, not a lot of space and is perfect for mixed games. The AFL has nothing comparable to it.

No! Its nuts that we pay millions of $'s to be aligned to Touch footy now and dont even mention it in the annual report! We should be shouting participation numbers from the rooftops and the national spread of that version of RL. I wonder if Touch players outside the RL states even know they are playing a version of RL? What do the NRL do to link these players into RL I wonder? There's approx 700k touch footy players and massive growth in schools nationally:

NSW Full Active Junior membership growth of 6.9% (2,734 participants/243 teams).
• ACT School Delivered Program increase of 16.6% (1,220 participants).
• VIC Event Participant growth of 119.4% (2,406 participants).
• WA School and Junior growth of 98.7% (7,614 participants).
• TAS total participation growth of 39%. (2,404 participants).
• NT School and Junior growth of 87% (2,059 participants).
• SA School Delivered Program growth of 44.3% (1,357 participants).
• QLD School and Junior growth of 35.2% (17,914 participants).
http://touchfootball.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/2017-TFA-Annual-Report-ONLINE.compressed.pdf
 
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They are winning the junior war as a safe gap between soccer and the rugby codes

Central coast has like 10-11 clubs now..


http://aflhuntercoast.com.au/ccoastclubs/
Unfortunately the AFL has a reputation for dodgy figures they have been caught out a number of times making figures up
You talk about the Taliban the AFL suffers from that as well
Now in contrast -

NSW and the ACT lead club growth for AFL in 2017
Author Name: caitlin-arnold | Posted 11:30 am on Thursday 30th November, 2017

The popularity of AFL in New South Wales and the Australian Capital Territory continues to rise with AFL NSW/ACT today announcing Club participation grew 8.2%. This comes off the back of a phenomenal 78% increase in the number of female participants playing in registered Club football competitions across the state and territory.

Overall, participation in AFL competitions and programs across the region grew 7.3% in 2017 to over 250,000 participants. This makes the AFL community in New South Wales and the ACT, Australia’s third largest participation base in the country behind Victoria and Western Australia.

AFL NSW/ACT CEO, Sam Graham said he was delighted with the continued growth of AFL across the region.

“I’m really excited about the fantastic growth of AFL across our region in 2017, especially in our key segments of Auskick, Club and female football,” Graham said.

“Our growth in Club football is the highest of any state in Australia driven by skyrocketing participation in our youth girls and female competitions. It’s fantastic to now offer a complete pathway from NAB AFL Auskick right through to the elite AFLW competition for women.

“I’d like to thank our Leagues, Clubs, Volunteers, Coaches and Administrators for their commitment to fostering growth across the region this year in what was an outstanding result for the AFL further highlighting the popularity of our code at all levels of our game.”

AFL NSW/ACT continues to see rapid growth in the AFL 9s product with a 30% increase in participation in AFL’s official modified, non-contact version of AFL. The fun, fast, free-flowing football is played with nine players per side on a smaller ground.

NAB AFL Auskick growth remains steady with over 66,000 Auskickers taking the field this year, representing a 9.3% increase on 2016 with key markets such as Greater Western Sydney seeing double-digit growth in the AFL’s marquee kids participatory offering.

Overall participation in AFL competitions and programs nationwide grew to an impressive 1.55M participants across the country in 2017.

Key AFL NSW/ACT participation statistics for 2017:

· 8.2% growth in Club football in NSW/ACT – the highest growth rate in the country

· 78% growth in Female Club football participation

· 30.4% growth in AFL 9’s participation

· 7.3% overall participation growth to 254,812 participants (vs. 237,549 in 2016)

· 9.3% growth in NAB AFL Auskick

http://aflnswact.com.au/participation-numbers-2017/

Now even if you take out their propaganda AusKick figures they still kick arse all over the NRL.

It is a real, real concern for the future down the line, in a decade or two. If some of you Ostrich like posters can't see or acknowledge that then what's the point of even responding to defensive and abusive posters. I may as well be arguing with the Taliban.
No intelligent person believes the playing numbers put out by Vicky Kicky house
 

El Diablo

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AFL couldn't even get the numbers right for a senate committee

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentar...ted_inquiries/2008-10/afl_tasmania/report/c02

2.53 The committee requested that the AFL provide statistics on participation levels in Western Sydney, the Gold Coast and Tasmania, including the proportion of participants made up of the Auskick program. Unfortunately, the AFL only provided the committee with figures for the entire NSW/ACT region, rather than Western Sydney alone. They are included in Appendix 3. These statistics are not helpful in assessing meaningful participation in the code in that area as they include far Western NSW, the Riverina, Canberra and the far South Coast of NSW, where Australian Rules football enjoys strong support and well established club competitions exist.
 
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I don't read AFL propaganda..

I just know a at least 7 families with kids who play AFL in league heartland ..

They all like league as well.. but Afl is less rough. More casual.. doesn't have training after school.. is on Sunday morning .. etc
Why don't you mention how elephant juice friendly aFL the game is?
Why don't you mention how aFL is openly sexist,racist and homophobic?
 
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