Alex Mckinnon To Sue

[El Diablo]

Victorians hate giving the NRL any time unless

 

[El Diablo]

Mate I know you post shit just to rile merkins up probably regardless of what your actual beliefs or knowledge on the subject is but I could produce quotes to back up most of the figures if thats what you've decided to disagree with.

I like to stir shit too El D, but I like to think I know when I'm way out of my depth and to shut the f**k up. I think this is one of those times you should do the same.

i'm not out of my depth at all

you have no idea what i know about this. i'd bet my balls its 100 times more than you

 

[TheFrog]

Ive always wondered why they didnt make lifting over the horizontal an automatic 10 in the bin?

This seemed to stop players throwing punches pretty quickly

What the court will be called upon to decide, if the NRL is named as a respondent (and I'd be very surprised it it isn't as that's where the money is), is whether the risk of an injury such as happened to McKinnon was as low as reasonably practicable. Is it reasonably practicable to send players off and have uneven numbers on the field? Obviously the NRL do not think so or else it would be happening. Might such a policy have prevented this injury?

In addition, they will have to explain why appropriate insurance was not taken out. Perhaps the cost of injury insurance for players that covers even injuries caused by acts that are illegal under the rules of the game is such that it is not affordable to the game, or perhaps such insurance cannot be bought at any price.

 

[AJB1102]

i'm not out of my depth at all

you have no idea what i know about this. i'd bet my balls its 100 times more than you

Fair enough, mate. Was probably wrong of me to assume otherwise. I don't think we need to enter a dick measuring contest on who knows what about living with disability.

Your experiences obviously differ to mine.

I think we'd agree though that costs on necessity items for the disabled are ridiculous and a lot of people are unaware of the price gouging that goes on, let alone what is actually required for some to complete daily tasks that others see as run of the mill stuff.

 

[TheFrog]

I too can't see how the NRL could be made culpable for this. They govern the game and the exact act that McKinnon was a victim of, a spear tackle, has been illegal since the inception of the game.

It's not necessarily enough just to give a penalty for a lifting tackle, which is often all that happens. You have to ensure that the risk of injury is as low as reasonably practicable. Basically you have to make the environment under which dangerous tackles are made so hostile that coaches actively instruct players not to make them, and drop them from the top grade if they do. I have no idea how this will play out in court, but I do believe the NRL could have a big problem on their hands with the way they have gone soft on all sorts of dangerous tackles in recent years, not just lifting tackles.

 

[southwalesrabbitoh]

Victorians hate giving the NRL any time unless

It's the same all over the world. Agendas, bias, stereotyping...

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

So this puts the debates about the shoulder charge ban and the one-punch rule to bed...

Its easy to say "the players know what they are signing up for". But when something goes to shit like it has with Alex, its the ARLC who pay the most

 

[carcharias]

The real question is who was he before this name?

Without a doubt
Ive probably got his old alias on ignore.

 

[Parra]

Our compensation system requires Mckinnon to sue to get what he deserves. He has to initiate these proceedings.

 

[Canard]

It's not necessarily enough just to give a penalty for a lifting tackle, which is often all that happens. You have to ensure that the risk of injury is as low as reasonably practicable. Basically you have to make the environment under which dangerous tackles are made so hostile that coaches actively instruct players not to make them, and drop them from the top grade if they do. I have no idea how this will play out in court, but I do believe the NRL could have a big problem on their hands with the way they have gone soft on all sorts of dangerous tackles in recent years, not just lifting tackles.

Can you explain how you believe they have "gone soft" on dangerous tackles?

 

[carcharias]

Can you explain how you believe they have "gone soft" on dangerous tackles?

I can
McKinnon for example
Gets carried off on account of an obvious spear tackle.
McLean gets put on report.
He should've been sent off.

It was a pretty obvious one.

 

[Spot On]

Hmmm, how bout Kade Snowden getting a 7 week suspension for Ray Thompson running into him after Thurston and co bleeted through the media about it heading up to the judiciary hearing.

The Maclean suspension seemed pretty soft after that. So did the noise over the tackle from Thurston and co. If they were outraged over Thompson headbutting Snowden's shoulder then one must assime they were simply speechless over the Mlb Storm tackle such was its result.

 

[Danish]

Can you explain how you believe they have "gone soft" on dangerous tackles?

This tackle, which took place while Mckinnon was still in hospital for his injury, got a total suspension of 1 week:

 

[Canard]

I can
McKinnon for example
Gets carried off on account of an obvious spear tackle.
McLean gets put on report.
He should've been sent off.

It was a pretty obvious one.

The judgement call of one official during a game is considered proof that the 'NRL' has gone soft on dangerous tackles?

 

[Canard]

This tackle, which took place while Mckinnon was still in hospital for his injury, got a total suspension of 1 week:

That link is busted mate.

 

[carcharias]

Dangerous/illegal play where a bloke gets injured and carried off should be a send off or sin bin.
We all know the perpetrator is going to be suspended later but that doesn't really penalise his team much.

 

[Spot On]

It probably depends on the circumstances of the grape being there? If another customer dropped it 2 seconds earlier then there is not much chance Coles could have done anything whereas if the grape was left there for a while then Coles should have cleaned it up.

Mods can we get a separate thread for this grape case?

FFS. The point being made was someone stepped on the f**kking grape and ended up with a bruise and got a 90K payout.

McKinnon was lifted and speared into the ground and will never walk again. What do you think McKinnon is entitled to if someone gets 90K a bruise??? That case is simply offensive to anyone who has ever been seriously hurt.

 

[Danish]

That link is busted mate.

Fixed it now.

Its Reynolds on Tate on Origin. Dumped him square on his head, but successfully argued it down to a grade 1 and only missed a week.

Refs are consistently soft on lifting tackles, shown by the fact no one has been sent off for one in at least 15 years in the NRL. This despite the fact we have had a handful of spear tackles in that same amount of time that landed their exponents with 5+ game suspensions

 

[carcharias]

The judgement call of one official during a game is considered proof that the 'NRL' has gone soft on dangerous tackles?

Happens all the time
High shots that knock a bloke out are a penalty and you get put on report.
Then a week later they get punished.

 

[Danish]

Another text book spear that saw the tackler stay on the field, despite the tackler eventually seeing a lengthy suspension: