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Alex Mckinnon To Sue

NrlVader

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I actually said facing the sky you dope.
which one foot is ...one is horizontal as he gets his head driven straight into the ground.

Can you reply to a post without calling people a merkin, dope? Have some manners, you may talk to your son that way but he is a kid and will grow up with no confidence/self estem.
 

carcharias

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Can you reply to a post without calling people a merkin, dope? Have some manners, you may talk to your son that way but he is a kid and will grow up with no confidence/self estem.

couldn't you think of a comeback for the post directed at you?
 

Munted

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I actually said facing the sky you dope.
which one foot is ...one is horizontal as he gets his head driven straight into the ground.
Hah, f**king merkin.
Sky high/Facing the Sky. Same same but different. Either way the sky is up.

I fail to see how his feet are facing UP from the typical text book 'spear' tackle position.
I see this as he was driven from a horizontal position (lifted into it), sideways, then downwards into the ground.
Which to my eyes looked somewhat harmless in the scheme of what we have seen in the past (reynolds on tate in SOO).

The Ennis tackle quoted here Vs Penrith looked far worse to the eye and more of your classic spear, up and over.
 

NrlVader

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There is no question that tetraplegia results in reduced life expectancy.

It's mainly related to secondary complications of being a vegetable in reality after the stabilisation of the injury eg. pressure sores, spasticity, osteoporosis and fractures, frozen joints, pneumonia, respiratory complications and infections, kidney stones, autonomic dysreflexia, deep vein thrombosis, and cardiovascular disease.

In the 1920s it was weeks and now decades with modern care strategies.

The same applies to people suffering from Epilepsy ... not as smooth sailing as $30 a month. They are probably at a higher risk, say when driving a car and a fit develops. Life gets harder as they get older.
 

BuderusIsaBeast

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I agree with many that I highly doubt this recahes court. Neither side wants a legal battle and I expect they will settle and Alex can receive the money I believe he deserves.

To all the people saying its awful that Alex is suining can you genuinely say you wouldnt do the same thing in his situation. The young man will most likely never walk again due to an illegal incident in his workplace. He deserves everything he can get and I say good luck to him in acheiving that. As Wayne Bennett said in 10, 15, 20 years time when no one remembers or cares about Alex he will need that financial support.
 

carcharias

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It's mainly related to secondary complications of being a vegetable in reality after the stabilisation of the injury eg. pressure sores, spasticity, osteoporosis and fractures, frozen joints, pneumonia, respiratory complications and infections, kidney stones, autonomic dysreflexia, deep vein thrombosis, and cardiovascular disease.

In the 1920s it was weeks and now decades with modern care strategies.

The same applies to people suffering from Epilepsy ... not as smooth sailing as $30 a month. They are probably at a higher risk, say when driving a car and a fit develops. Life gets harder as they get older.

It is a legal requirement for the person with epilepsy to notify the Driver Licensing Authority in their state or territory.

do some research before you make a bigger fool of yourself

https://www.epilepsy.org.au/living_with_epilepsy/lifestyle_issues/driving
 

carcharias

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Hah, f**king merkin.
Sky high/Facing the Sky. Same same but different. Either way the sky is up.

I fail to see how his feet are facing UP from the typical text book 'spear' tackle position.
I see this as he was driven from a horizontal position (lifted into it), sideways, then downwards into the ground.
Which to my eyes looked somewhat harmless in the scheme of what we have seen in the past (reynolds on tate in SOO).

The Ennis tackle quoted here Vs Penrith looked far worse to the eye and more of your classic spear, up and over.

not sure what your point is here.
The bloke got this neck snapped from a spear tackle.
are you denying it happened or something?
 

BuderusIsaBeast

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...d/news-story/732ceef12880c9f2056291f34f4c6ea5

Alex McKinnon faces tough challenge for lawsuits to succeed


  • Margie McDonald

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    Former Newcastle forward Alex McKinnon could have a difficult task ahead of him trying to extract a multi-million-dollar compensation claim from both the NRL and Melbourne Storm player Jordan McLean, after McKinnon suffered a broken neck in a tackle in 2014.

Leading Sydney lawyer Sam Macedone said a payout of a couple of million dollars was more realistic, despite the fact that wheelchair users often have annual costs between $300,000 to $500,000 above those of the average able-bodied person.

Chris Nicholls from Spinal Cord Injuries Australia (SCIA) said additional costs for those with quadriplegia and paraplegia fell into seven main categories: personal and household care; home modifications; medical and continence supplies; travel (air and vehicular); assistive technology; mobility equipment; surgical and rehab intervention.

McKinnon, now 24 and a quadriplegic, is reportedly seeking a $10 million payment, which would equate to just over $300,000 over the next 30 years.

“It doesn’t matter how much it costs for his care, you have first got to prove negligence. Unless you prove that, you don’t get anything,” said Macedone, who was the lawyer for swimmer Simon Cowley in his successful damages claim in 2011 against Nick D’Arcy. Cowley had metal plates inserted in his face after being assaulted in a Sydney CBD nightclub in 2008 and was awarded $180,000.

Carroll and O’Dea Lawyers, acting for McKinnon, declined to comment yesterday after it was revealed the former Knights second-rower was pursuing legal action against both the NRL and McLean over the injuries he sustained in the round three match against Melbourne Storm at AAMI Park in March 2014.

Storm officials also refused to comment on whether the club would help McLean with any legal costs.

McLean and two teammates, Kenny and Jesse Bromwich, were involved in the tackle on McKinnon, although only McLean was charged with a dangerous throw. He was given a seven-match ban.

Macedone said McKinnon would have “difficult hurdles to get over” before any claim was successful.

“He was playing a game which is a contact sport, which he consented to do knowing the risks. It’s a sport where you can get hurt,” Macedone said yesterday.

“Unless he can establish what caused him his injury was a malicious, intentional tackle, outside the rules of the game, I don’t think he can succeed.

“We’ve seen previously where people have had their jaws broken by a malicious coathanger tackle or a punch to the face — both outside the spirit of the game. But this is a tackle which went wrong.

“He has to prove there was some malicious intent in it to succeed against the player (McLean) he is intending to sue. And to succeed against the NRL he’s got to prove they owed him a duty of care and didn’t do enough to prevent that tackle.

“So they are pretty tough hurdles. Then again I don’t know what evidence his lawyers have got or what they’ve put together in terms of what negligence they might claim.

“If they do get over those hurdles, I really don’t know if he would get $10 (million) to $15 million because the way damages are nowadays it would be closer to $2 or $3 million.”

McKinnon received a $500,000 payout from the NRL’s player insurance for career-ending injuries, plus the Knights paid out the final two years of his playing contract, believed to be a total of $750,000. He also received around $1.2 million from a weekend fundraising effort across the code after it became apparent the talented second-rower would not be able to play again.

Yesterday a spokesman for the NRL said: “We’re in correspondence with lawyers for Alex McKinnon but no claim has been made so far.”

The Rugby League Players’ Association (RLPA) put a separate career-ending insurance policy in place late in 2014 after negotiations between it, the NRL and the 16 clubs. Despite being put in place after McKinnon’s injury, he still received what he was entitled to under the RLPA policy.

Yesterday RLPA chief executive Ian Prendergast supported McKinnon.

“Alex has the right to pursue any and all legal options available to him in relation to his injury and it is appropriate that he has engaged his own legal representatives to assist him,” he said.

Im not a lawyer but I don' think they will ahev any problem proving that tackle was outside the rules of the game when it is illegal and McLean pleaded guilty to that illegal spear tackle
 

NrlVader

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It is a legal requirement for the person with epilepsy to notify the Driver Licensing Authority in their state or territory.

do some research before you make a bigger fool of yourself

https://www.epilepsy.org.au/living_with_epilepsy/lifestyle_issues/driving

Legal to notify BUT it does not prevent unpredictable fits.

They can have had no fits for so long and get their licence and are pretty much Kamikaze pilots when a fit occurs and can kill themselves and others. It's a fact.
 

Perth Red

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Alex McKinnon's lawsuit against the NRL and Jordan McLean over a tackle that left him paralysed will "open up a can of worms", says Cronulla captain Paul Gallen.

He believes other players now fear similar legal action, News Corp reported on Tuesday.

McKinnon is preparing to launch legal proceedings against the NRL and Melbourne forward McLean over the 2014 tackle which left him wheelchair bound.
Gallen told News Corp if someone was allowed to sue someone for getting injured on the field "it will open up a real can of worms".

"It will be something players will be concerned about, for sure, especially if you are allowed to sue individuals," Gallen said.

"I still think everyone will go into a tackle as hard and fierce as ever, to be honest with you."

Gallen said the tackle incident was "just a dreadful, dreadful accident."


Read more at http://wwos.nine.com.au/2016/12/20/01/57/legal-action-opens-can-of-worms-gallen#cglzwvBgXoK3JT5x.99
 

carcharias

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Legal to notify BUT it does not prevent unpredictable fits.

They can have had no fits for so long and get their licence and are pretty much Kamikaze pilots when a fit occurs and can kill themselves and others. It's a fact.

So now you know about the laws?
Glad I could help you.
you're welcome.
 

Munted

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not sure what your point is here.
The bloke got this neck snapped from a spear tackle.
are you denying it happened or something?

nah, i seen it on live TV. Defs happened.
I am dissecting the tackle itself and the contributing factors, still feel as if it was a pretty innocuous event that ended in quite a catastrophic outcome.
 

ACTPanthers

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Calls them "quadies"

A lot of quadies die that way. Spending all the time in bed results in bedsores, ulcers and when they become infected it is very hard to treat resulting in death.

Then insists on "manners"?

Can you reply to a post without calling people a merkin, dope? Have some manners, you may talk to your son that way but he is a kid and will grow up with no confidence/self estem.

You really are a special kind of dickhead
 

Munted

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I dunno you're the one who starts a first post to me by calling me a merkin.
You show up the same time school holidays start.
I felt it was an appropriate way to address you seeing as it's how you address others.
Nope, not on school holidays. Quiet week at work before Christmas, thought i would get some LU forum banter in. Paying dividends as usual, merkin.
 

Shorty

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FFS. The point being made was someone stepped on the f**kking grape and ended up with a bruise and got a 90K payout.

McKinnon was lifted and speared into the ground and will never walk again. What do you think McKinnon is entitled to if someone gets 90K a bruise??? That case is simply offensive to anyone who has ever been seriously hurt.
It wasn't a bruise, she ended up having a back injury that stopped her from going to work.
Like I said, someone is liable and it was the supermarket, that's how things go.
 

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