All Black failure, All Black arrested ...

[Micistm]

I raise my glass to you Turdy, we need more Leagueys like yourself pushing for more League being played at kids level. It's at this stage the future players with the talent will decide which code they go to. Some will prefer Union of course, but it's nice if kids can try both and determine for themselves which they prefer rather than just sheep penned into the Union way of things.
If you don't mind me asking, what area are you from? You hear of very few School League teams, most will just follow the Union path and consider League a sign of the Devil (and a game for the great unwashed, thugs and so on).

 

[Turdy Angle]

I use to coach the Lyfield College league team when Mt Albert Grammar were winning everything in 1st XV and school rugby league .
I would have like to bring back the old Big Fresh Cup comp they use to have at school . Union kids will just play union but the league kids now played both games just for the schools instead of clubs .

 

[Rich102]

For someone who cannot stand the hypocrisy and an unlevel playing field that exists between codes, this has been a good week for me.

$50million to come 5th, 6th, 7th or 8th in the world cup.
Resorts and 5 star treatment to achieve the same result.
Commercialism and Woman's Day features so that one of our glamourised players ends up being arrested.

Our country is becoming soft. We teach our kids in school that it's not okay to win and be proud of it. We teach so that there is often no result. So how appropriate was it that 3000 people turn up to greet a team of losers and say that "It's Okay." But I wouldn't expect anything less from one eyed Cantabrians absorbed in ill informed propaganda.

I could go on and on about where $50 million dollars could've been spent and it does not necessarily include league, softball, hockey, basketball or any other sport hard done by SPARC's redistribution of funding allocation.

$100 million which also included coming 2nd in the America's Cup demonstrates why our kids are getting fat, lazy, diabetes, obesity related issues and missed opportunities.

I'd love to sit down with Nick Hill in a public forum to justify his position and rationale behind govt spend to address the issues as highlighted above.](*,)

Don't genes and type A milk have something to do with these conditions?

 

[mean]

Don't genes and type A milk have something to do with these conditions?

You're joking right?

Ethnic groups are more susceptible to diabetes as a result in their poor transformation to a westernised diet. Maori and Polynesians make up a large percentage of the stats for the incidence of diabetes primarily because of their failure to adapt from their traditional diets to fast food, fatty and sugary diets. Indians and Asians are also now figuring in the statistics of diabetes in NZ because of their shift from traditional diets to westernised. Associated with the etiology of diabetes is smoking, alcohol, sedentary lifestyles and diet. All of which Maori and Polynesians seem to favour.

I believe that sport and physical activity would limit the incidence of diabetes, obesity, depression and lower the intake of alcohol and smoking. We all know the benefits of participating in any sports. Why spend money on sports like yachting when we all know that this sport is limited to wealthy people? But who knows, if yachting was made available for alot of people to assess, there could be many Russell Coutts residing in Otara, Eketahuna, Henderson etc.

Sport funding in NZ primarlity funds elite type sports not available for everyday NZ'ers to participate in. I'd rather a healthy nation instead of a wealthy team!

 

[MKEB...]

Maori and Polynesians make up a large percentage of the stats for the incidence of diabetes

You must differentiate between type 1 and type 2 diabetics.

You will find Maori and polynesians make up a large % of type two diabetics, which can on occasion be attributed to diet.

Whereas type 1 is a adolescent onset (or auto immune) form that cannot be attributed to poor diet/exercise regimes.

 

[Skinner]

Maori and Polynesians make up a large percentage of the stats for the incidence of diabetes

You must differentiate between type 1 and type 2 diabetics.

You will find Maori and polynesians make up a large % of type two diabetics, which can on occasion be attributed to diet.

Whereas type 1 is a adolescent onset (or auto immune) form that cannot be attributed to poor diet/exercise regimes.

Correct MKEB.

 

[mean]

Maori and Polynesians make up a large percentage of the stats for the incidence of diabetes

You must differentiate between type 1 and type 2 diabetics.

You will find Maori and polynesians make up a large % of type two diabetics, which can on occasion be attributed to diet.

Whereas type 1 is a adolescent onset (or auto immune) form that cannot be attributed to poor diet/exercise regimes.

Yes, you're right. Let's not forget gestastional diabetes as well. With respect to my comments, type II can be prevented with modifiable risk factors as previously mentioned. Having worked with diabetes patients, I'm dismayed that simple solutions are often bypassed for complex beaurecractic spin.

 

[shiznit]

i cant understand why people get upset about the money spent on the all blacks.... as far as i know its not tax payers cash. the NZRFU are very wealthy... and its the all blacks brand that makes that money.... i see no problem with them putting money back into them.

but im completely against SPARC giving any money to RU, RL & Cricket.
pro sports should fund themselves... especially RU!!!

 

[mean]

It interesting to note that Rob Fisher is on the board for Sparc. Yes, ex NZRFU chairman Rob Fisher. John Wells who is/was a member of 2011 Rugby World Cup committee is also on Sparc's board. In 2006 Sparc gave about $1million towards the bid to host the world cup.

Funding for national sporting governing bodies 2005/6

Yachting $2.1million
Cricket $1.2mill
Rugby $875k
Netball $1.3mill
League $280k

Why would a governing body like yachting which has f all participants want $2.1million to run its meetings of cucumber sandwiches and asparagus rolls?

 

[shiznit]

hosting the rwc is different.... the NZ economy will benefit alot by hosting one of the biggest sporting events in the world.

same with the americas cup money... apparently even though we didnt win it. the buisness that NZ's marine industry got from the exposure more than paid the money the govt put down.

i dont mind the govt giving money if it benefits more than just the sport itself.

but sparc have no buisness funding RU.

 

[MKEB...]

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NZ's economy or Aucklands?

 

[mean]

hosting the rwc is different.... the NZ economy will benefit alot by hosting one of the biggest sporting events in the world.

Who's hosting the world cup? NZ or NZRFU? I thought the NZRFU applied and got the hosting rights?

And if Sparc gave a million dollars towards the bid, what did the million dollars buy? Microsoft has limitations to what you can present in a powerpoint presentation. Or was it the usual ar*se licking trout fishing trips and stays at Puka Park that manipulated the hosting votes?
For a million dollars you could get Michael Jackson to sing our national anthem at the world cup opening ceremony.:sarcasm:

 

[shiznit]

Who's hosting the world cup? NZ or NZRFU? I thought the NZRFU applied and got the hosting rights?

And if Sparc gave a million dollars towards the bid, what did the million dollars buy? Microsoft has limitations to what you can present in a powerpoint presentation. Or was it the usual ar*se licking trout fishing trips and stays at Puka Park that manipulated the hosting votes?
For a million dollars you could get Michael Jackson to sing our national anthem at the world cup opening ceremony.:sarcasm:

NZ is hosting RWC2011. the govt were involved with the bid too....
who knows what the money was spent on..... all that matters is they won the rigths to host it.
and so the govt should contribute. they will make alot of money from it. the NZRFU will actually make a big loss hosting the cup because of our small stadiums.

 

[Martli]

NZ's economy or Aucklands?

There's a difference?

 

[mean]

Rugby is doomed according to Murray Deaker and a couple of rugby fans who expressed their views on Breakfast this morning. Aerial ping pong, boring and becoming league like (at least we score tries and great ones too) were some descriptions used to describe where rugby is at at the moment.

Apparently the world cup final was won by penalty kicks. How sad.

Why don't they just cut their losses and convert to our game. We could use their administrators, support, revenue, development programmes...

 

[Dr Crane]

becoming league like

Um....what?

 

[mean]

Um....what?

I think one of the guys was suggesting becoming more defensive and with the new rules of the defence line now has to stand behind the feet of the last person in the ruck or maul? Who knows or cares?

 

[Micistm]

Lol, watching the All Golds game, then seeing the second half of the WC final in Union...wow, anyone unbaised has to see the incredible difference in entertainment factor there is.
The WC final- utter yawnfest in the extreme, no tries whatsoever, and England god help us looked the more interesting and inventive team. Highlight of the game was a player knocking over a camera.
Four years hype for that??!! And people coming out of the stadium saying it was a good game!!! Man, I'd hate to see a bad one!

This is why it hurts so much when there's a massive blow out vs the Aussies in league like we saw the previous Sunday. League IMHO is by far the better spectator sport of the Rugbys (And one of the best Spectator sports in the World for mine), and if we can just get some consistancy where we can be guaranteed the Tests will be as epic as the likes of State of Origin with very few blow out games...and combine that with some more decent thinking, promotion and marketing at the top level- Popularity will soar.

They'll always be the gin swilling stiff upper lip Rugby Heads that will snob League regardless, but the majority of Kiwis IMO would get into League in a big way with enough Hype combined with results. Check out the Warriors first game for that!

 

[playdaball]

There is an opp. in NZ for RL to grow but with the NZRL leading the ship I would not put any $$ behind them make a success of things.

This also applies to a lesser extent to the NRL - WE ALWAYS SEEM TO SHOOT OURSELVES IN THE FOOT.

 

[Micistm]

There is an opp. in NZ for RL to grow but with the NZRL leading the ship I would not put any $$ behind them make a success of things.

This also applies to a lesser extent to the NRL - WE ALWAYS SEEM TO SHOOT OURSELVES IN THE FOOT.

Sadly I can't disagree. The NZRL is screaming for decent management. The next year will be interesting, see how they handle world cup year, and see if ANY promotion goes into it at all, or see if they same old people are out there beating the drum for them, with no help or thanks.