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ALL HAIL DANNY WILLIAMS!!!!!!!!!

Kid

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Rudd, if and thats a BIG if, you are right about the other "incidents", will 3 wrongs make a right?
 

Mark Rudd

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No, but why should Danny be trailed as the worst person in the world when others seemingly get away with equally bad incidents?


It doesn't make sence.
 

^ Pando

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Mark Rudd said:
No, but why should Danny be trailed as the worst person in the world when others seemingly get away with equally bad incidents?


It doesn't make sence.

Are you accusing the authorities of favouritism?
What do you think Williams deserved for the cowardly king hit?
 

Anonymous

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Did Tallis, or the boys who made the tackle on Slater, knock either of those two players? Did they knock out either of those two players so badly they needed oxygen and a trip to the hospital?

So he's being punished for having a solid right hook?? If Williams had misconnected with his punch, and he and O'Neill had slugged it out for a bit, would there be such an uproar?
 
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Mark Rudd said:
And how was the Tallis incident a 'fight'?

How was Billy getting forearmed to the head a 'fight'?

Ben Ross actually threw punches at Tallis. Tallis had hold of his jumper and Ross pushed him and then went to go away but Tallis hit him Whilst he was looking and it was on from there, both throwing punches. Sure Tallis threw a lot more.

As for Slaters tackle in Origin. You are kidding two bigger blokes hit and tackled Slater (a little bloke) of course he was going to be upended and when that happens first point of contact was going to be chest or head as they landed. It was not an out and out attack on Slater as Williams attack on O'Neill was.

Should we have thrown Stephen Kearney out of the game afterall one of his tackles did end Jarrod McCrackens career but again it was not a deliberate act of foul play by Kearney just a tackle that went wrong. Same with Mark O'Neill's on Saturday night. But Williams deliberately went for O'Neill. Rugby league is a contact sport and occassionally things go wrong in tackles. Adrian Morley being a prime example he has a technique problem he doesn't set out to hit blokes high but he does because he has a problem skill wise and until he fixes it he will spend more time on the sideline.

As for Danny Williams for someone so concussed he managed to negate the following.

1. He played the ball correctly.
2. He brushed past the first marker (Skandalis) to get to O'Neill
3. By doing the above he knew who hit him high and was out for revenge on that person. If it was a dazed concussed man why not clobber the first bloke Skandalis.
4. He threw a perfect punch that was straight and vicious. A dazed or concussed man surely couldn't have been so co ordinated.
5. He knew what he had done as he nodded at the referee when sent off.

He deserves 18 weeks and none of your conspiracy theories hold any sway whatsoever.
 

tiger_nick

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Southern Rooster said:
As for Danny Williams for someone so concussed he managed to negate the following.

1. He played the ball correctly.
2. He brushed past the first marker (Skandalis) to get to O'Neill
3. By doing the above he knew who hit him high and was out for revenge on that person. If it was a dazed concussed man why not clobber the first bloke Skandalis.
4. He threw a perfect punch that was straight and vicious. A dazed or concussed man surely couldn't have been so co ordinated.
5. He knew what he had done as he nodded at the referee when sent off.

He deserves 18 weeks and none of your conspiracy theories hold any sway whatsoever.

:clap:

Verry well said!

Also he said to Satts after the punch 'he hit me high'
 

Front-Rower

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Mark Rudd said:
Over 100 replies. I did it! Wow. Thanks to everyone who contributed. Couldn't have done it without you.




Front-Rower wrote:
Did Tallis, or the boys who made the tackle on Slater, knock either of those two players? Did they knock out either of those two players so badly they needed oxygen and a trip to the hospital?

What you don't realise is that what Williams done was not only illegal but very stupid.



So thats the only deciding thing to a high tackle? Whether a player goes to hospital or not? Ok. Sure.

BOTH those incidents I mentioned were equally illegal and just as stupid.


Yet no calls to suspend them for 18 weeks. Explain that.

Maybe Danny Williams wasn't man enough to cop a high shot, just like Slater was when he got smashed in State of Origin, or when any other fullback cops it every week, along with nearly every halfback in the competiton cops it off of the opposition.

Its just a poor excuse for a poor moment of madness from a mad man who dishes out plenty of what he copped.

I agree with you, why Tallis wasn't suspended for his antics on Ross, but to say when Slater got hammered in origin is a bad thing like you do, maybe you believe footballers should wear skirts ;-)
 

bluesbreaker

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tiger_nick said:
Nathan Gibbs has been dodgy before, in 1997 he was the ARL and Manly doctor. Before the Grand Final between Manly and Newcastle he told Andrew Johns he could die if he played due to a lung injury. Alterior motive anyone? :roll:

He was correct, he had a punctured lung, could very well have killed Joey.

And did I pick his defense or did I pick his defense? :p. You _can_ get aggressive after concussion, but that's no excuse for dog shotting someone.
 

bluesbreaker

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So? I've been concussed and I drove home 2 minutes afterwards, what's your point?

It can happen, go argue the finer points of it with someone who knows... Like a doctor. Heaven forbid anyone put some research into the subject.
 

Red Bear

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Mark Rudd, you are a goose, even other Storm fans can see what Williams did was f**ken dumb. As for the Slater tackle in Origin i just thought he came back to earth and realised what it was like to be a sprinter playing league(much like alot of wingers at the moment).
 

mrbishi

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this whole thread is a joke!
1. the tackle wasnt that bad.
2. williams managed to get straight to his feet and play the ball with out any dramas.
3. he goes past the first marker.
4. throws a punch so hard that he almost stumbles over.

my arse he was concused and didnt know what he was doing, its an absolute joke! he was concused but still knew that the guy at first marker wasnt who he was looking for, if he was dazed and convused he would of thrown a punch at the first person he saw, not walk a few meters and wait till the guy turns away and throw a punch.
its a joke hoppa gets all those weeks for saying he will knock a offical out, yet williams case gets put back even though he sent a bloke to hospital :?:
i dont get it, it should of taken then 1 min to give him a life sentence, bloody coward.
 

JJ

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Thierry Henry said:
Did Tallis, or the boys who made the tackle on Slater, knock either of those two players? Did they knock out either of those two players so badly they needed oxygen and a trip to the hospital?

So he's being punished for having a solid right hook?? If Williams had misconnected with his punch, and he and O'Neill had slugged it out for a bit, would there be such an uproar?

There would have been. There was with the Tallis incident, and it was a joke that he didn't get a hefty suspension.

Williams is gone. His defence is a joke, but even if it wasn't, it would open a huge can of worms for the NRL if successful. If I was John Hopoate (thankfully I'm not) I'd be seeing a lawyer straight away - he's had knocks to the head, and done "irrational" things...

Les Boyd might want to consider a law suit too...
 

Mark Rudd

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Ben Ross actually threw punches at Tallis. Tallis had hold of his jumper and Ross pushed him and then went to go away but Tallis hit him Whilst he was looking and it was on from there, both throwing punches. Sure Tallis threw a lot more.


So its ok now to throw punches? Ross looking? Looked like he was trying to get away to me. No suspension to Tallis.



As for Slaters tackle in Origin. You are kidding two bigger blokes hit and tackled Slater (a little bloke) of course he was going to be upended and when that happens first point of contact was going to be chest or head as they landed. It was not an out and out attack on Slater as Williams attack on O'Neill was.



So why was Ross suspended for 5-6 weeks for the same thing?

"Not an out and out attack on slater". Is that a joke? NSW players smugly said they had ways of stopping Slater. First hit up he gets lifted PAST horizontal then has two players drop forearms INTO HIS HEAD. A blatant attack DIRECTLY to his head.

Ross gets 5 or 6 weeks for the same if not less. NSW players get the penalty because Slater dropped the ball.





All the media hype about the grapple tackle by Storm. Yet all clubs did it especially during Origin by NSW who complained about the Storm players in the QLD team PERHAPS doing it.




Complete and utter double standards for all these incidents. Seems as usual, Melbourne Storm players are the fall guys for everything.







Interesting to note what Paul Harragon said on TFS last night. He was hit high in an international game, then 5 mins later punched Gary Freeman in the head and couldn't remember after the game that he done it. Interesting.
 

JJ

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Mark Rudd said:
Complete and utter double standards for all these incidents. Seems as usual, Melbourne Storm players are the fall guys for everything.

:-({|=

Rooster Cogburn, where are you? You have a serious rival!!!!
 

_Johnsy

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Lord kingtwat

If someone is concussed or dazed to the extent we are meant to believe by SOME of the storm idiots, it is not possible to make a b-line at the pace williams did without stumbling around. He made a dead straight b-line for ONiell as Onieel continued to walk to the right of williams. If you really believe the crap your club has fed you, well I shudder for the genes, intelligence, reasoning ability your children will inherit.
 

Mark Rudd

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Paul Harragon isnt a Storm player.


JJ anf Tiger Nick. YOU explain those incidents and the differences. Do something useful for once.
 

JJ

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I have said many times that I think Tallis should have had a lengthy suspension.

I also believe firmly that SOO players should be subject to the same rules as NRL players, as should test players. Bottom line is that this doesn't happen, I don't know the ins and outs, but do different organisations run the respective competitions?

But, just because things have been screwed up before, doesn't mean they should do it again. You look for precedents to let Williams off, I'll give you precendents that suggest he should get at least 15 weeks.

1. What he did was far worse than anything Hopoate did - bottom line is (no pun intended) while Hoppa's probing digits make us all a bit squeemish, he wasn't going to kill anyone.
2. Les Boyd - another dispicable cowardly prick.

Sorry, but what Williams did is indefensible, and his and Melbourne's pathetic attempts to defend his actions (helped by the joke that is Nathan Gibbs) are bringing the game into (further) disrepute.
 
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