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Skinner

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From Stuff :http://stuff.co.nz/sundaystartimes/4277465a6444.html


NZRL Chairman Andrew Chalmers is "unperturbed" by deep boardroom unrest that threatens to come to a head with an attempt to remove him at the next board meeting on December 7.


Director Vinnie Weir demonstrated the concerns of a growing anti-Chalmers faction when he told the Sunday Star-Times he would demand a full financial statement at that meeting from Chalmers after claims the league was more than $1m in debt.

Weir, a senior Fonterra executive, said the board had not been told the league's financial position. "We need some answers to questions. We don't know what the number is, how big it is, how small it is," he said. "What we see is what we read in the press, which is not a healthy way for a board to operate: to read in the press what you should know yourself.

"Unfortunately, we don't have as much disclosure of numbers as we should. We are waiting for answers and we need them ASAP ... if he doesn't provide the right answers then action will be taken."

While the NZRL's debts could presently sit well over the $1m mark and some think they're up to $1.8m, those figures are inflated because they do not include the Kiwis' international income, usually $1m a year.

Chalmers, in France with the Kiwis, refused to comment on the balance sheet, but did say: "Given that some members require clarity of the financial position, a formal statement will be made within a week or two, given I am not back yet."

While the chairman quelled some opposition at an advisory panel meeting in Wellington last month when plans for the domestic calendar were swiftly altered after protests, he failed to come up with a promised report on the game's financial health before leaving for England.

Auckland Rugby League chairman Cameron McGregor said the game needed "reassurance" that its finances were healthy. He hoped Chalmers had heeded his advice when he took the chairmanship that the game could not afford "any extravagances".

"I warned him at the time that everything he did was to be within financial responsibilities and I would be personally pretty disappointed if that was not the case," McGregor said.

Weir said the board had not approved all of the plethora of officials accompanying the Kiwis to England, including NZRL board member Neville Kesha, nor had they approved for some of the All Golds officials to stay on for the entire tour.

Some of Chalmers' critics have taken legal advice on how to use the league's new constitution against him. Removing him as chairman would be relatively straightforward, with the board's three independent directors not permitted to vote and only a four-two split of elected directors needed for a change.

Sources said former Kiwis manager Ray Haffenden is being lined up as a potential alternate chairman with Weir as his deputy. It is thought a third director, Peter Kerridge, is another concerned over Chalmers' role. Kerridge declined to comment, Haffenden didn't return calls while Weir said he wasn't aware of such a move.

Chalmers does have vice-chairman Phil Campbell's support, leaving Kesha as the decisive vote in any poll. Kesha, vice-chairman of Auckland, will likely come under pressure from the district, who have been critical of Chalmers' leadership, to vote against him.
 

Rich102

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What? They expect Kesha to vote against Chalmers after he has had a month away with all expenses paid? Yeah Right!
 

Lossy

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Can someone please schedule this show in prime-time? I'll prepare some popcorn and set the VCR.
 

mean

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Fron NZ Herald http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/4/story.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10476744

League: Chalmers hits back over debt rumours

5:00AM Sunday November 18, 2007
By Michael Brown




Andrew Chalmers launched a counter-attack as moves to oust him from the NZRL chairmanship gained momentum and rumours of debt swung wildly between $700,000 and $1.82 million.
Chalmers accused some individuals of leaking misinformation for their own political gain and said estimates of NZRL debt were not only wildly exaggerated but also destabilising the sport.
He had planned to circulate a definitive financial position to his own board and delegates yesterday but this was delayed by news on Friday of the passing of Bryce Wakely, who was NZRL operations assistant.
Chalmers now intends to do that next week after he returns from the Kiwis' disastrous centenary tour of the UK and France.
He has been accused of extravagant and unsustainable spending and failing to keep his board and members up to date with the financial position.
"We are hearing that we could be in debt for $700,000, $1.3 million or even $1.82 million, which is an extreme blowout," one board source said on the condition of anonymity. "There has to be some answers and if they don't come sooner rather than later, then there will be implications.
"The stakeholders have said to the board, either sort it out or we will sort you out. There is a lot of nervousness around the game and whether Andrew survives as chairman is debatable."
It is understood Ray Haffenden is being touted as a possible replacement should Chalmers be dethroned, with Vinnie Weir to take over as deputy.
If it doesn't come to a head at the next board meeting on December 5, it might at the next round of elections in March when three board members will be required to step down (they can seek re-election) under the rules of the constitution.
Threats to his position are nothing new to Chalmers, who took over as chairman from Selwyn Bennett in controversial circumstances in November 2006. While he admitted that the national body was in debt, he said some of the numbers being floated were way off target.
"There are a lot of leaks and a lot of misinformation out there, which is not unusual for our sport, that some are using for their own political advantage," Chalmers said.
"The prospect of a leadership challenge is nothing new because I have put up with it for a long time. It's the norm."
There is consternation over the number of management staff on the Kiwis tour, which many believed was something the NZRL couldn't afford. Even skipper Roy Asotasi told the Herald on Sunday that it was clear to the players that some weren't pulling their weight and were "pretty much here for a holiday".
But Chalmers said the RFL and French federation were picking up the tab for all of their costs, including flights, accommodation, internal travel and daily expenses, with the exception of historian John Haynes, who was in the UK for 11 days around the All Golds tour.
"This tour has not cost us anything, except for John Haynes," he said.
He also made no excuse for a large management to back up what he described as an inexperienced side and coaching staff.
"After [the sexual incident in] Wellington, it was clear we needed to bolster the management with experienced people to provide players with more support," he said.
All Golds manager Malcolm Boyle replaced director of football Graham Lowe, who experienced health problems on the eve of the tour, while cultural adviser Bailey Mackey was charged with providing activities for the players so they weren't distracted. He replaced Paul Bergman, who was supposed to provide video analysis for Gary Kemble but returned home early.
"I'm comfortable with where our finances and our spending is at," Chalmers said. "We are no different to other sports which have all posted losses.
"Our goal is to make the NZRL fully self-sustaining by the end of 2009 and I'm confident we can achieve that. We have signed record TV rights and kit sponsorship deals and we will make a surplus from the UK tour."
 

Micistm

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Wow, this is a suprise!

Sorry, don't do sarcasm very well ;-)

Chalmers is not the only one who just has to go, and the structure needs an overhaul. Professionalism is needed in the worst possible way. Can't wait to hear them BS on in interviews next week about this tour being a 'rebuilding success.' I look forward to one of Lowie's classic opinion columns...after all, he's wanted past Warriors and Kiwis coaches sacked for much much less before! ;-)
 
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Will wait and see what happens, personally, i would like to see if some of these new things they have in the pipeline for next season actually work, rather than dumping them before they can be assessed.

I know what the NZ media is like when they get a bone thrown to them, will write anything to keep a story going, they are not always correct either.
 

mean

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Beavers Headgear said:
Will wait and see what happens, personally, i would like to see if some of these new things they have in the pipeline for next season actually work, rather than dumping them before they can be assessed.

I know what the NZ media is like when they get a bone thrown to them, will write anything to keep a story going, they are not always correct either.

I'm the same. Chalmers has pledged a sign of transparency with NZRL newsletters and posting the financial statement on the website. I doubt whether any of the previous boards would've risked revealing how they were ripping off NZRL.

There seems to be a bit of power manouevering and it wouldn't suprise me that past or ex disgruntled members are behind the disharmony. After all didn't Chalmers suggest that he didn't want to rely on pokie funding as a funding stream? If so, some of the aforementioned people wouldn't be getting their kickbacks or paydays.

The ruination of our game will continue due to egos, personal agendas and personal gain.
 

Micistm

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mean said:
I'm the same. Chalmers has pledged a sign of transparency with NZRL newsletters and posting the financial statement on the website. I doubt whether any of the previous boards would've risked revealing how they were ripping off NZRL.

There seems to be a bit of power manouevering and it wouldn't suprise me that past or ex disgruntled members are behind the disharmony. After all didn't Chalmers suggest that he didn't want to rely on pokie funding as a funding stream? If so, some of the aforementioned people wouldn't be getting their kickbacks or paydays.

The ruination of our game will continue due to egos, personal agendas and personal gain.

Totally agree there, which is why IMO a new structure and proper management style is needed rather than just the current ones out and the new set of mates put in.
Seriously, it's been like this for years, this not what you know it's who you know stuff. It just doesn't change:crazy:
I'm not certain how much I value a Chalmers pledge though; we're still waiting for his full 'Grannygate Investigation' he was going to do as the 'stand in' NZRL boss. Reminds me very much of OJ Simpsons 'not resting until he found his wife's killer'!
Lol, typical politicking, slide it under the carpet once it's forgotten:lol:
 

Skinner

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It's just become sickening. When I think of all the marvellous people who freely
give time, money, services, whatever to the game. Good folks, setting up fields
every weekend, up at the crack of dawn and working hard all day long on Saturdays
for the game. Volunteers coaching, managing, refereeing, mums and dads picking up
entire mini and mod teams and carting them around to games every weekend.

When this bullsh*t at the top goes on, they are people who are being crapped on from
a great height.

Some of the individuals mentioned in the articles above, are actually friends of mine
and they know my stance on it, but I don't matter. It's the good folks in my opening
paragraph that matter. They are the ones that actually run the game in this country,
hands on, at the coal face, every week, week in, week out.

They deserve a whole lot better than the crap that's going on.
 

bluey

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Skinner said:
It's just become sickening. When I think of all the marvellous people who freely
give time, money, services, whatever to the game. Good folks, setting up fields
every weekend, up at the crack of dawn and working hard all day long on Saturdays
for the game. Volunteers coaching, managing, refereeing, mums and dads picking up
entire mini and mod teams and carting them around to games every weekend.

When this bullsh*t at the top goes on, they are people who are being crapped on from
a great height.

Some of the individuals mentioned in the articles above, are actually friends of mine
and they know my stance on it, but I don't matter. It's the good folks in my opening
paragraph that matter. They are the ones that actually run the game in this country,
hands on, at the coal face, every week, week in, week out.

They deserve a whole lot better than the crap that's going on.

Well Written
Good post So so true
 

Micistm

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Skinner said:
It's just become sickening. When I think of all the marvellous people who freely
give time, money, services, whatever to the game. Good folks, setting up fields
every weekend, up at the crack of dawn and working hard all day long on Saturdays
for the game. Volunteers coaching, managing, refereeing, mums and dads picking up
entire mini and mod teams and carting them around to games every weekend.

When this bullsh*t at the top goes on, they are people who are being crapped on from
a great height.

Some of the individuals mentioned in the articles above, are actually friends of mine
and they know my stance on it, but I don't matter. It's the good folks in my opening
paragraph that matter. They are the ones that actually run the game in this country,
hands on, at the coal face, every week, week in, week out.

They deserve a whole lot better than the crap that's going on.

Absolutely, that is exactly the point. Great to see Ridgey's opinion column in Sunday News saying pretty much the same thing, excellent that the buck is not stopping at poor old Kemble, and the dissent is growing.
 
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Rich102 said:
Cultural Advisor? Is one of these really necessary?

Was a nicely run line from 1 of the newspapers for some extra slant

The advisor is actually there on behalf of Maori TV who are putting together some sort of doco on the All Golds tour
 

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