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Another AFL wanker bagging out the great game

typicalfan

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On evidence so far all Hunt & Folau have been doing is flogging the self-declared superiority of AFL to the AFL world.
That is what I think as well. They aren't getting any extra supporters out of these articles, they are just pandering to the dull masses of the south. The rest of us facepalm and shake our heads.
 

Perth Red

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Are people in Melbourne as worried about the success of the Storm as they are in Sydney about the possible success of Sydney based AFL teams? I'm not up to speed so a genuine question.

If Mexicans are not concerned is it because they are conceited enough to think there's room for a sport that could never seriously threaten their god given one?

Are Sydneysiders giving too much relevance and therefore too much free advertising to AFL?

The big question for me is how many young men in Sydney have the physical requirements to play AFL

No for the following reasons:

1) They are not so insecure about their sport
2) NRL does not get the media support in Melbourne that AFL gets in Sydney
3) The NRL has no where near as good a strategy or resourcing of the game in Melbourne as the AFL is pumping into Sydney
4) They have a much stronger leader

In terms of the last question, as many as Perth, Adelaide or Melbourne, just as their is an equal numbr of RL physiques in non NRL cities. Genetic body types are not restricted to certain cities!
 

POPEYE

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My purpose asking the question about genetics is that surely young men in Vic are scrutinised for their value to AFL more than League players in Sydney.

I say this because it seems religion like in expectations that a young man in Vic only plays another sport when he misses out on AFL.
 

Perth Red

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My purpose asking the question about genetics is that surely young men in Vic are scrutinised for their value to AFL more than League players in Sydney.

I say this because it seems religion like in expectations that a young man in Vic only plays another sport when he misses out on AFL.

Reality is it is more due to opportunity and peer pressure. If there is no other sports being played at your school then you and your mates will play the one sport that is available, in Melbourne that would predominantly be AFL, just like in Sydney it would be RL. It has been a big failing of the ARL that we have not been succesful in getting more jnr RL played in affiliated states imo.
 

docbrown

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I read The Australian every day, and that piece wasn't even in the sports section. It was hiding at the back bottom right of the Opinions section (A Plus) under the, appropriately titled "Mind Games" section.

And to be fair, his articles (always in The Wry Side) show he is someone who has his tongue so firmly in his cheek that it is probably poking through. My guess he is actually siding with us, poking fun at the AFL for roping in 3000 kids and some footy ovals and expecting Andrew Demitreau to re-create George Bush Jr's "Mission Accomplished" moment in the middle of Blacktown before GWS fumble a ball in confusion.

Wit should be sharp.
His "article" was as dull as an AFL match.
 

POPEYE

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Reality is it is more due to opportunity and peer pressure. If there is no other sports being played at your school then you and your mates will play the one sport that is available, in Melbourne that would predominantly be AFL, just like in Sydney it would be RL. It has been a big failing of the ARL that we have not been succesful in getting more jnr RL played in affiliated states imo.

Yes . . . appears AFL have a distinct advantage in it's home state. No such advantage in Sydney . . . or is there
 

El Diablo

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seems he's a bit of a racist http://www.irishecho.com.au/tag/imre-salusinszky

Australian apologises to Qantas boss after ‘insulting’ article
Posted on 01 December 2010

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Journalist Imre Salusinszky

The editor of The Australian has admitted that the publication of an offensive column sneering at Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce was “a mistake”.

Journalist Imre Salusinszky’s November 17 Wry Side column lampooned Joyce’s Dublin accent and resorted to negative Irish stereotypes in a ham-fisted attempt at humour.

“’Tiz too arly ter judge waaat dat issue is an’ ‘oy long it ‘ill tak fer to be fixed,” Salusinszky quoted Joyce as saying, as the Qantas chief executive dealt with the serious problem of engine malfunctions in the carrier’s planes.

The entire column continued along those lines, with Joyce pilloried for supposedly talking of “turboines” and “praties”, and falsely said to have told reporters: “Tryin’ ter work oyt execkly what’s gone wrahng is loike trying’ ter count de number av bubbles in a jar av black stuff – an’ oi’m not blatherin’ about engine oil.” The embarrassing column has been removed from the newspaper’s website.

Salusinszky would not comment on the matter when contacted by this newspaper.

The newspaper’s editor, Paul Whittaker, wrote to Joyce to apologise for its publication. “It was a mistake,” Whittaker, told the Echo vie email. “The article slipped through the normal checks on a busy night.”

The Qantas chief executive expressed his disappointment with the article. “I was appalled and very annoyed by the article.

I was also very disappointed that the Irish community could be insulted in such a way by a major Australian newspaper,” said Joyce. Many of the Australian’s readers were appalled.

“This kind of bog-ignorant racism might appear in a Hanson tabloid, but I was shocked to see it in broadsheet newspaper,”
one told the Irish Echo.

Some of Salusinszky’s colleagues were also taken aback. “Imre can be an embarrassment,” one said. “He just doesn’t seem to have any idea of taste.”
 

El Diablo

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lol

maybe they should pay them hush money

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/rendez...n/news-story/843c8976d62666115daa79b607f2d74e

What the AFL can teach the NRL about respect for women

Megan Hustwaite

December 19, 2018 1:44pm


There have been some concerning developments in the NRL and the code would do well to take a leaf out of the AFL’s play book.

Since the 2018 Grand Final on September 30, five, yes five, players have been charged with alleged assault crimes in the off-season.

First there was Jarryd Hayne, then Dylan Walker followed by Zane Musgrove, Liam Coleman came next then Origin star Jack de Belin.

This comes off the back of a year where North Queensland Cowboy Scott Bolton was arrested and charged in May for allegedly assaulting a woman during a night out in Bondi and Manly rookie Manase Fainu escaped conviction after pleading guilty to filming a sex act without consent in September.

And while those players who have been charged are entitled to the presumption of innocence, the events reflect everyday life where countless men are charged with acts of domestic violence. Sadly, we live in a society where one in three Australian women will be a victim of domestic or sexual violence at the hands of a person they know.

The AFL hasn’t always had a clean slate but in 2017, after Richmond premiership player Nathan Broad received a club-imposed sanction for circulating a photo of a woman without her consent, updated its respect and responsibility policy for the first time since 2004.

It was long overdue but the AFL has since made quick ground and crucial progress.

Headed up by the league’s manager for inclusion and social policy Tanya Hosch, the policy established concrete guidelines for the AFL and its clubs involving offences against women, created an anonymous harassment complaints portal on its website and provided counselling and support for complainants.

This precedent and standard comes based on the advice of an expert committee led by Carlton board member and sex discrimination commissioner Kate Jenkins, Essendon board member, former police commissioner and chair of the advisory council on family violence Ken Lay, professor of indigenous research Larissa Behrendt and Our Watch chief executive Mary Barry.

While the AFL hasn’t been marred with the kind of cultural and behaviour issues its NRL counterparts have encountered in recent months, Aussie rules is not immune. In the past few years the likes of retired Nick Stevens, Shannon Grant and Justin Murphy have all been convicted on sickening domestic violence charges.

You can have all the policies in place that you like but they only guide behaviour — it’s how leaders respond to them that determines success.

The most profound example is that of Geelong champion, three-time premiership player and Brownlow Medallist Jimmy Bartel who in 2016 publicly revealed the domestic violence he and his two sisters were exposed to as a child, their mother a victim of their father.

He would grow a beard for the entire season to raise money for his own Face Up to DV campaign with funds split between The Luke Batty Foundation and Bethany, a Geelong-based family services organisation.

Bartel’s own personal tale was raw and confronting but his honestly and leadership made men sit up and pay attention.

The AFL’s record is better than the NRL’s, but it’s not perfect. Nick Stevens is one of several former AFL players convicted of domestic violence. Picture: James Ross/AAP
It’s also time the football codes in this country, the NRL, AFL, Rugby Australia and the FFA, form an alliance and institute a no tolerance policy for disrespect of women.

Any footballer convicted of sexual assault or domestic violence should have their contract terminated and be ineligible to join a rival football code. Banned from the NRL? Code hop to another sport. No. Message sent.

NRL players and leaders must demand convicted offenders lose their contracts, following the lead of the West Tigers who have a zero tolerance of violence against women and will tear up a contract should a player be found guilty of domestic violence or sexual assault — a stand led by club chair Marina Go and chief executive Justin Pascoe.

The NRL has a culture issue and despite their successes around women in league and its female competition, it continues to be damaged by the unacceptable behaviour of some of its male players.

It’s over to the administration and its men, the players who represent this code, to take a stand.

Megan Hustwaite is a freelance sport writer.
 

Xcalibre

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Breaking News: Some men violate women and that includes players of AFL and NRL... (but NRL is really bad)

When I saw the author, I thought it odd that the triple j presenter would write such an article, but the name didn’t fully compute. Turns out it’s a different Hustwaite.
 
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lol

maybe they should pay them hush money

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/rendez...n/news-story/843c8976d62666115daa79b607f2d74e

What the AFL can teach the NRL about respect for women

Megan Hustwaite

December 19, 2018 1:44pm


There have been some concerning developments in the NRL and the code would do well to take a leaf out of the AFL’s play book.

Since the 2018 Grand Final on September 30, five, yes five, players have been charged with alleged assault crimes in the off-season.

First there was Jarryd Hayne, then Dylan Walker followed by Zane Musgrove, Liam Coleman came next then Origin star Jack de Belin.

This comes off the back of a year where North Queensland Cowboy Scott Bolton was arrested and charged in May for allegedly assaulting a woman during a night out in Bondi and Manly rookie Manase Fainu escaped conviction after pleading guilty to filming a sex act without consent in September.

And while those players who have been charged are entitled to the presumption of innocence, the events reflect everyday life where countless men are charged with acts of domestic violence. Sadly, we live in a society where one in three Australian women will be a victim of domestic or sexual violence at the hands of a person they know.

The AFL hasn’t always had a clean slate but in 2017, after Richmond premiership player Nathan Broad received a club-imposed sanction for circulating a photo of a woman without her consent, updated its respect and responsibility policy for the first time since 2004.

It was long overdue but the AFL has since made quick ground and crucial progress.

Headed up by the league’s manager for inclusion and social policy Tanya Hosch, the policy established concrete guidelines for the AFL and its clubs involving offences against women, created an anonymous harassment complaints portal on its website and provided counselling and support for complainants.

This precedent and standard comes based on the advice of an expert committee led by Carlton board member and sex discrimination commissioner Kate Jenkins, Essendon board member, former police commissioner and chair of the advisory council on family violence Ken Lay, professor of indigenous research Larissa Behrendt and Our Watch chief executive Mary Barry.

While the AFL hasn’t been marred with the kind of cultural and behaviour issues its NRL counterparts have encountered in recent months, Aussie rules is not immune. In the past few years the likes of retired Nick Stevens, Shannon Grant and Justin Murphy have all been convicted on sickening domestic violence charges.

You can have all the policies in place that you like but they only guide behaviour — it’s how leaders respond to them that determines success.

The most profound example is that of Geelong champion, three-time premiership player and Brownlow Medallist Jimmy Bartel who in 2016 publicly revealed the domestic violence he and his two sisters were exposed to as a child, their mother a victim of their father.

He would grow a beard for the entire season to raise money for his own Face Up to DV campaign with funds split between The Luke Batty Foundation and Bethany, a Geelong-based family services organisation.

Bartel’s own personal tale was raw and confronting but his honestly and leadership made men sit up and pay attention.

The AFL’s record is better than the NRL’s, but it’s not perfect. Nick Stevens is one of several former AFL players convicted of domestic violence. Picture: James Ross/AAP
It’s also time the football codes in this country, the NRL, AFL, Rugby Australia and the FFA, form an alliance and institute a no tolerance policy for disrespect of women.

Any footballer convicted of sexual assault or domestic violence should have their contract terminated and be ineligible to join a rival football code. Banned from the NRL? Code hop to another sport. No. Message sent.

NRL players and leaders must demand convicted offenders lose their contracts, following the lead of the West Tigers who have a zero tolerance of violence against women and will tear up a contract should a player be found guilty of domestic violence or sexual assault — a stand led by club chair Marina Go and chief executive Justin Pascoe.

The NRL has a culture issue and despite their successes around women in league and its female competition, it continues to be damaged by the unacceptable behaviour of some of its male players.

It’s over to the administration and its men, the players who represent this code, to take a stand.

Megan Hustwaite is a freelance sport writer.
Brown bags at 10 paces? Or perhaps the lost evidence approach?
 

Tommy Smith

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Meanwhile the AFL fanbase would give the Russian football hooligans a run for their money as the most racist bunch of assholes to follow a sport.

And in between the racial abuse they also find time to gang bash the shit out of oppositon fans - and their own - during and after games.

The AFLs Grand Dragon, umm I mean CEO, Gill the Dill has more than enough to worry about in his own backyard before that unholy chip chasing pigeon sport can ever start looking down upon Rugby League.
 

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