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Anthony Griffin

unKwn

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Gus still ripping in. love it. he's out to prove something this year, he wants to prove panthers can win a Premiership without Griffo
 

betcats

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He's changed his story a number of times so far so I wouldn't put it past him doing it again.



I'm a big fan of Gus, especially since he's been back at the Panthers. How could you not like the man who brought the club its first premiership? But I don't like what he's done here, and the aftermath even less.

When has he changed the story? All along it’s been Hooks a dick.
 

Abacus

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Watching Gus last night a fair bit of what he said resonated with me. I went through a similar situation recently where my direct report's behaviour and lack of people skills were affecting the performance and morale of those reporting to him and the wider team also.
After close to a year of working with this person, trying to shift their practices to become more inclusive, letting him know how his inability to communicate affected those around him them, offering professional development, etc it got to the stage where either this person had to leave or I was going to lose a number of good performing staff.
I guess the key difference was I couldn't just hand this guy a $1m+ cheque and tell him to take a holiday.
I guess some people find it difficult to acknowledge they might need to adapt. From what Gus said last night, there was a lack of trust - or Griffin just wanting to be the big dawg (did I do it right?)
 

franklin2323

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So hook took the boys to the Gold Coast on his own for a three day holiday. And the we cop 50 and he doesn’t watch the last 7 minutes. What a good coach.

Even Ciraldo tried to resign, no one could work with bloke.

Should we have just fired all our staff and let hook do everything? @TheFrog

Yet Gus was going to let it go on for longer... There is more to this story. One day hopefully we find out
 

OldPanther

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Yet Gus was going to let it go on for longer... There is more to this story. One day hopefully we find out

What's so hard to believe about a midseason review and things having devolved to the point of no return? We've heard from multiple sources including the club that the reciew showed staff and players were increasingly unable to work with him for whatever reason in more recent times.
 

betcats

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Yet Gus was going to let it go on for longer... There is more to this story. One day hopefully we find out

I don't think there is more to it.

Hook was stubborn and difficult and stuck in his ways in regards to how he coached. Afer a little while he started to rub people the wrong way, the club backed him, tried to work with him and offer him help and still he pushed people away. Eventually he clashed with Gus, the teams performances dropped off from earlier in the year and we started losing staff who didn't like Hook and we pulled the trigger on him. It all sounds legit to me considering what ive seen the last three seasons and comments from other people who have worked with Hook.

What more could there be? It sounds like this Dan Oneil character forced the issue with Cleary and put us in a position where we had to let Hook know what we were doing.
 

franklin2323

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What's so hard to believe about a midseason review and things having devolved to the point of no return? We've heard from multiple sources including the club that the reciew showed staff and players were increasingly unable to work with him for whatever reason in more recent times.

Gus said he was trying to make it work. Why? That's my question.

We sack hook during Origin. This story gets buried in Origin hype. We don't have an important few games ruined by off field garbage. Ciraldo's interview will just be answering questions about this.

I want to know about the game coming not that garbage
 

franklin2323

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I don't think there is more to it.

Hook was stubborn and difficult and stuck in his ways in regards to how he coached. Afer a little while he started to rub people the wrong way, the club backed him, tried to work with him and offer him help and still he pushed people away. Eventually he clashed with Gus, the teams performances dropped off from earlier in the year and we started losing staff who didn't like Hook and we pulled the trigger on him. It all sounds legit to me considering what ive seen the last three seasons and comments from other people who have worked with Hook.

What more could there be? It sounds like this Dan Oneil character forced the issue with Cleary and put us in a position where we had to let Hook know what we were doing.

Gus said he knew it would be a big story. Gus also knows players and staff go better when happy. Why try to make it work?

Gus also said he knew it would be a big story. So Fire him during origin. It stays in the papers for a day or so. Then Origin takes over and players and Ciraldo don't get the stupid questions that they will today so close to the finals
 

betcats

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Gus said he was trying to make it work. Why? That's my question.

We sack hook during Origin. This story gets buried in Origin hype. We don't have an important few games ruined by off field garbage. Ciraldo's interview will just be answering questions about this.

I want to know about the game coming not that garbage

Gus hired him and extended him. Firing him was admitting a mistake. Gus has an ego. Seems like they wanted to wait but circumstances forced it now. He has made mistakes during this griffin issue there is no doubt, I don't think there is any big revelations left though.
 

OldPanther

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I don't think there is more to it.

Hook was stubborn and difficult and stuck in his ways in regards to how he coached. Afer a little while he started to rub people the wrong way, the club backed him, tried to work with him and offer him help and still he pushed people away. Eventually he clashed with Gus, the teams performances dropped off from earlier in the year and we started losing staff who didn't like Hook and we pulled the trigger on him. It all sounds legit to me considering what ive seen the last three seasons and comments from other people who have worked with Hook.

What more could there be? It sounds like this Dan Oneil character forced the issue with Cleary and put us in a position where we had to let Hook know what we were doing.

I've seen the same thing at work. I work for Coles for context so a big corporate environment.

Gus said he was trying to make it work. Why? That's my question.

We sack hook during Origin. This story gets buried in Origin hype. We don't have an important few games ruined by off field garbage. Ciraldo's interview will just be answering questions about this.

I want to know about the game coming not that garbage

I think player management had a part in it. Our performances have become worse because he thinks players should tough it out instead of resting. You put that on top of the already present issues and then O'Neill talking to Cleary the whole thing becomes untenable.
 

OldPanther

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Gus hired him and extended him. Firing him was admitting a mistake. Gus has an ego. Seems like they wanted to wait but circumstances forced it now. He has made mistakes during this griffin issue there is no doubt, I don't think there is any big revelations left though.

I agree. Everything that can come out has.
 

betcats

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Gus said he knew it would be a big story. Gus also knows players and staff go better when happy. Why try to make it work?

Gus also said he knew it would be a big story. So Fire him during origin. It stays in the papers for a day or so. Then Origin takes over and players and Ciraldo don't get the stupid questions that they will today so close to the finals

As I said I think they were trying to wait till the end of the year and as the rumours heated up Griffin started pulling away more and then the broncos game happened.

Gould said last night the when we were at our best this year Ciraldo and Wallace where involved at training but by the time he got fired hook wasn't even letting them do anything. Ciraldo tried to resign twice, Im just guessing but if he'd been made less involved recently then he probably tried to resign recently.
 
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