Anthony Griffin

[Andy_P]

Is Matty Moylan gonna do the same? Actually has he taken any responsibility at all ever? He’s got plenty of time on his hands at the moment, give us something Matty.

Certainly individual players should be honest with themselves - they're not doing them selves any favours by blaming others when deep down they know they've had a poor attitude. And they're meant to be 'professionals'. But the position of a coach of course impacts upon more people - and if they are going to paint a vision for a club in an interview process - I'd say you would respect and trust someone more who owned up to their failings but knew what they had to do to fix them, as opposed to someone you felt couldn't self reflect in an honest way. Who knows, Hook may have been completely honest in his interview, and then have been guarded in his public statements.

 

[franklin2323]

Certainly individual players should be honest with themselves - they're not doing them selves any favours by blaming others when deep down they know they've had a poor attitude. And they're meant to be 'professionals'. But the position of a coach of course impacts upon more people - and if they are going to paint a vision for a club in an interview process - I'd say you would respect and trust someone more who owned up to their failings but knew what they had to do to fix them, as opposed to someone you felt couldn't self reflect in an honest way. Who knows, Hook may have been completely honest in his interview, and then have been guarded in his public statements.

The issue is though trust. You can't have coaches spilling stuff that happened behind the scenes. Then players wouldn't trust the coach and the position is untenable.

As a fan. I would love to know the story behind Moylan going into rehab. Also what was behind the TMM fallout

The reality we likely never find out

 

[franklin2323]

I think he handled the Moylan situation better than most expected.

Not only did Moylan leave the club, he signed for the sharks and has given them zero return.

Do you forget his 2 try assists a few weeks ago at Penrith?

 

[Andy_P]

The issue is though trust. You can't have coaches spilling stuff that happened behind the scenes. Then players wouldn't trust the coach and the position is untenable.

As a fan. I would love to know the story behind Moylan going into rehab. Also what was behind the TMM fallout

The reality we likely never find out

Of course, it would be bad form to run down any one you had conflict with. But if he said 'in my time out I've worked on my skills in understanding in dealing with different personality types' that would tell you something. In the fox interview I think he made a point of talking about collaboration, so maybe it's his way of saying that at panthers he wasn't as open to other's input and ways of thinking as he should have been.

 

[Exsilium]

Do you forget his 2 try assists a few weeks ago at Penrith?

Ha! He was one of the most hyped juniors we’ve had. Great with the ball in hand, goes missing for the rest of the game.

 

[franklin2323]

Of course, it would be bad form to run down any one you had conflict with. But if he said 'in my time out I've worked on my skills in understanding in dealing with different personality types' that would tell you something. In the fox interview I think he made a point of talking about collaboration, so maybe it's his way of saying that at panthers he wasn't as open to other's input and ways of thinking as he should have been.

Well he seems more media savvy now. I don't recall him having this many media engagements the whole 4 years here. Then he has the last week. Him and Soward have gone from not gettimg on to respecting each other.

So you can see some growth.

What you can't see is why he didn't work well with others at Penrith and to know that you need to know the back story which is too much info for a coach to share

Like take the assistants. Did Gus hire them without hook's say so? If it was and he says so. It is seen as just slinging mud which isn't a good look when trying to recruit players

 

[Westernised Panther]

As a fan. I would love to know the story behind Moylan going into rehab.

The reality we likely never find out

This ^

So much speculation about his departure, from chucking a hissy fit for being dropped after the loss to Melbourne in 2017, to his poor attitude towards rehab, to rumours of substance abuse - all of which have allegedly come from sources within the club.

We’ll never know unless he decides to do a “tell-all” after he retires, which doesn’t look too far off given his persistent injury woes.

 

[Smug Panther]

This ^

So much speculation about his departure, from chucking a hissy fit for being dropped after the loss to Melbourne in 2017, to his poor attitude towards rehab, to rumours of substance abuse - all of which have allegedly come from sources within the club.

We’ll never know unless he decides to do a “tell-all” after he retires, which doesn’t look too far off given his persistent injury woes.

Substance abuse haha come on most the boys get on the bag

 

[WestyLife]

Then does he drag up every player that left? Or was rumoured to have issues with?

Facts are the 4 players they have that were coached by him applauded the decision. As did another Dragons great and a one of his harshest critics in Soward

So there are plenty of people to listen to without dragging up the past

The question was has he learned from his mistakes/shortcomings. I think it's fair to say the fans want the answer to be a big yes. Bringing up specific players isn't necessary.

 

[franklin2323]

The question was has he learned from his mistakes/shortcomings. I think it's fair to say the fans want the answer to be a big yes. Bringing up specific players isn't necessary.

Which he answered as yes he has. Not much more can say without examples

 

[Fangs]

Substance abuse haha come on most the boys get on the bag

Too right even Dave's Mate!

 

[franklin2323]

Substance abuse haha come on most the boys get on the bag

Yet zero go to Rehab for it alone

 

[Westernised Panther]

Too right even Dave's Mate!

I thought @Smug Panther sounded familiar!!

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Nathan is a strong kid, well wired.

I worry that he might fall off the wagon one day with the pressure etc.

People will try to put rubbish into his head and he has to palm off the idiots.

 

[The_Frog]

I thought @Smug Panther sounded familiar!!

I've had exactly the same thought.

 

[Kilkenny]

Nathan is a strong kid, well wired.

I worry that he might fall off the wagon one day with the pressure etc.

People will try to put rubbish into his head and he has to palm off the idiots.

Not really your issue. You have plenty to worry about with your own team without concerning yourself around Nathan or any of our players.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Not really your issue. You have plenty to worry about with your own team without concerning yourself around Nathan or any of our players.

You shouldn’t be bullying me personally, you should read the forum rules.

 

[Kilkenny]

You shouldn’t be bullying me personally, you should read the forum rules.

No bullying involved mate. Seriously worry about your own team.

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

No bullying involved mate. Seriously worry about your own team.

Don’t try to tell me what my issues are or what I should post when it’s in the rules.

Don’t make it personal.

You have a problem with my comment, you direct yourself to that comment and not me.

Seriously, read the forums rules.

 

[Kilkenny]

Don’t try to tell me what my issues are or what I should post when it’s in the rules.

Don’t make it personal.

You have a problem with my comment, you direct yourself to that comment and not me.

Seriously, read the forums rules.

Grow up.