Anthony Griffin

[jane the pain]

Anyone who bags Griffin or the club must hate us according to the brains trust round here. The most sensitive sports fans in the world.

It is called having an opinion. Jamie Soward does appear bitter.

 

[franklin2323]

It is called having an opinion. Jamie Soward does appear bitter.

It is what it seems. No mention of us playing good footy after Soward went or anything like that

 

[betcats]

You guys accuse anyone who questions hook or the club of the same thing. They are always bitter with an axe to grind, I’ll say it again, it’s really sad.

Soward handled his exit from the club with the utmost class, his comments at the time were anything but bitter. Now two years later he is saying things you guys don’t like so history is being rewritten and sowie is just a bitter ex footy player taking pot shots at his former club.

 

[TheFrog]

sowie is just a bitter ex footy player taking pot shots at his former club.

Certainly looks that way.

 

[OldPanther]

I think the fans have more agenda then ex players. In my opinion of course

 

[betcats]

Certainly looks that way.

Same as Girds right?

 

[mxlegend99]

You guys accuse anyone who questions hook or the club of the same thing. They are always bitter with an axe to grind, I’ll say it again, it’s really sad.

Soward handled his exit from the club with the utmost class, his comments at the time were anything but bitter. Now two years later he is saying things you guys don’t like so history is being rewritten and sowie is just a bitter ex footy player taking pot shots at his former club.

He did leave with class. He helped us out too. We didn't have to pay him out.

 

[betcats]

He did leave with class. He helped us out too. We didn't have to pay him out.

He was all class. Its ridiculous he is being painted as bitter IMO.

 

[betcats]

Everything Soward said is accurate, anyone who watches us should be able to see that. He isn't even being critical. Honestly you guys who cant cop any negative comments need to be objective rather than just writing every opinion that differs from yours as coming from a hater.

IF he is so bitter point out where his comments in the article are inaccurate rather then just shitting on him.

@franklin2323 @Aliceinwonderland @TheFrog

 

[franklin2323]

Lets see.

2014 we scored 21.08 points a game
2015 we scored 16.65 points a game
2016 (The year Soward claimed we played boring tactics) we scored 23.45 points a game.
2017 we matched 2014. There was 2 points difference over the whole year.

Currently this year after 19 games we are infront of the points scored of 2016 or 2017. Who knows how much we improve or decline that over the next 5 games.

So figures don't match what Soward said..

Defence is the issue that is the decline but no where does he say that

 

[TheFrog]

Everything Soward said is accurate

his style is very one dimensional and it puts a negative feel across the side.

In the absence of naming names, which obviously he can't do, and bearing in mind he is talking about a coach whose side is running 5th of 16, this seems more like an opinion, and one that doesn't stand up well to the light of day. He might have got more traction if the side had lost the last game, but then that might just have been seen as putting the boot in to a side that is down.

It has to be remembered that journos are required to come up with stories. Sowie is just starting out, and is at the bottom of the pile, just like Girdler. So they have to get noticed. They do this by making extravagent claims that can't be supported or by stating the obvious while ignoring the circumstances.

Same as Girds right?

Girds burst into print after the finals loss to the Broncos with the line that the Panthers attack was poor. We could all see that. In a game where our captain and main attacking fulcrum was out, we lost May during the game, and the Broncos were allowed to stand offside at will (read the gameday thread). We all know the coach needed a bit of help with the attack, but now we have Ciraldo handling that is it any better? Sometimes it is but this year the problem is defence, not always, but at certain times, like after conceding penalties and when not having possession for extended periods.

 

[franklin2323]

In the absence of naming names, which obviously he can't do, and bearing in mind he is talking about a coach whose side is running 5th of 16, this seems more like an opinion, and one that doesn't stand up well to the light of day. He might have got more traction if the side had lost the last game, but then that might just have been seen as putting the boot in to a side that is down.

It has to be remembered that journos are required to come up with stories. Sowie is just starting out, and is at the bottom of the pile, just like Girdler. So they have to get noticed. They do this by making extravagent claims that can't be supported or by stating the obvious while ignoring the circumstances.



Girds burst into print after the finals loss to the Broncos with the line that the Panthers attack was poor. We could all see that. In a game where our captain and main attacking fulcrum was out, we lost May during the game, and the Broncos were allowed to stand offside at will (read the gameday thread). We all know the coach needed a bit of help with the attack, but now we have Ciraldo handling that is it any better? Sometimes it is but this year the problem is defence, not always, but at certain times, like after conceding penalties and when not having possession for extended periods.

We also didn't have Blake that semi too. We are a far better team with him in it

We have had those 3 games at home where we were great in defence. 0 tries conceded 2 weeks in arow. Outside of that we don't seem to be able to hold out teams for long periods. That is our main issue this year

 

[franklin2323]

I think the fans have more agenda then ex players. In my opinion of course

This is true. I will admit I'd love faster footy played though stoppages don't allow for that. We are playing well as the rules allow.

 

[Fangs]

Girds burst into print after the finals loss to the Broncos with the line that the Panthers attack was poor.

True, but Girds was also vocal earlier in the season. He cooled off on our chances of winning the comp at the midpoint of the season which was a more than fair point of view.

He like many punters had us running 1st and winning the comp in 2017.

 

[martielang]

I’ve got no issue with what Sowie said, a lot of people agree with him. But IMO thus far Griffin has got us in a great position despite major injuries throughout the year, so there’s plenty of valid reasons/facts to disagree with his opinion today.

 

[TheFrog]

He like many punters had us running 1st and winning the comp in 2017.

The same ones who had the Cows winning it this year? At least we did better that them.

 

[roofromoz]

You guys accuse anyone who questions hook or the club of the same thing. They are always bitter with an axe to grind, I’ll say it again, it’s really sad.

Soward handled his exit from the club with the utmost class, his comments at the time were anything but bitter. Now two years later he is saying things you guys don’t like so history is being rewritten and sowie is just a bitter ex footy player taking pot shots at his former club.

How I remember it too. May be worth seeing this again ... https://www.penrithpanthers.com.au/news/2016/07/04/jamie-soward-says-goodbye/

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

Lets see.

2014 we scored 21.08 points a game
2015 we scored 16.65 points a game
2016 (The year Soward claimed we played boring tactics) we scored 23.45 points a game.
2017 we matched 2014. There was 2 points difference over the whole year.

Currently this year after 19 games we are infront of the points scored of 2016 or 2017. Who knows how much we improve or decline that over the next 5 games.

So figures don't match what Soward said..

Defence is the issue that is the decline but no where does he say that

Thanks for digging up those figures.

 

[franklin2323]

I’ve got no issue with what Sowie said, a lot of people agree with him. But IMO thus far Griffin has got us in a great position despite major injuries throughout the year, so there’s plenty of valid reasons/facts to disagree with his opinion today.

The Sharks score less than us. Yet don't get the same stuff said.

 

[betcats]

How I remember it too. May be worth seeing this again ... https://www.penrithpanthers.com.au/news/2016/07/04/jamie-soward-says-goodbye/

Could cut the bitterness with a knife