Anyone still want to sack Flanno?

[Frailty]

Maybe that is what they want to see. Marketing want to know how many hard core fans they really have that will show up no matter what trash is dished up.

Only thing that makes sense.

I'm getting the feeling no one in the club actually cares. As long as they get paid, who gives a f**k.

It'd be the worst to be the only employee in the place that actually cares when you see the team list exactly the same every f**king week.

 

[Feej]

The continuing selection of the worst halfback in the NRL is a great example of the mediocrity that this club has been known for for years.

 

[David Gallop - CEO]

i have heard from a reliable source that at the moment the dressing shed is spit 50-50 into flanno followers and flanno haters, and it is causing tension not only between flanno and the players but also amongst the players.

Lyle doesn't think he's the man for the job and doesn't like what he's doing, but the problem is that the club can't afford another payout. Ricky may still be getting paid, or if not his payments have only recently ended, as his payments were stretched out over a longer period because we couldn't afford to pay him the full amount in his contract period plus flanno's wage.

 

[Stagger Lee]

I understand that the sharks have cash flow problems right now - the Tippex sponsorship on the front of the shirt does not help - but surely with the rivers of cash that will come soon from the development they can get loans?

Surely all that development money has not disappeared?

 

[txta2]

i have heard from a reliable source that at the moment the dressing shed is spit 50-50 into flanno followers and flanno haters, and it is causing tension not only between flanno and the players but also amongst the players.

Lyle doesn't think he's the man for the job and doesn't like what he's doing, but the problem is that the club can't afford another payout. Ricky may still be getting paid, or if not his payments have only recently ended, as his payments were stretched out over a longer period because we couldn't afford to pay him the full amount in his contract period plus flanno's wage.

 

[David Gallop - CEO]

From what I understand, our jersey sponsor value is higher now than it was when we had out last major front of jersey sponsor, even without the major logo on there.

The first influx of development money went towards clearing most of our debt. We are still operating on a shoe string budget until the development is complete. It won't be rivers of cash, it will be a modest boost to keep the club going. More loans would be a bad move.

 

[Madsharkie]

Remove emotion from the equation.

Flanos overall win rate is in the low 40s (percentage wise). Without Carney it drops to the mid 30's.

4 wins from 11 starts is mid 30's.

I really can't see him improving up above the low 40's with the cattle that we have and his coaching philosophy. A 40% win rate over 24 games is 9 or 10 wins for the season and that's where we are tracking. In there we will win some brave games, maybe destroy a team off their game and cop a few floggings ourself. Unfortunately on raw numbers 9 wins is potentially spoon material and definitely leaves you out of the 8.

Are we happy, and will the board and Lyall be happy to lose 6 out of 10 games?

I doubt it.

Good post. I'm convinced.
Piss him and Robbo off ffs.

 

[southland]

Surely there is a performance target in Flanno's contract that can be triggered resulting in paying him for this season and no more?

It would be insane for a club to install a coach without a performance clause. Is this how Cronulla rolls? Lyall has some work to do...

 

[RUBIKS]

the problem is that the club can't afford another payout. Ricky may still be getting paid, or if not his payments have only recently ended, as his payments were stretched out over a longer period because we couldn't afford to pay him the full amount in his contract period plus flanno's wage.

Ricky quit.

We shouldn't have been paying him anything?

 

[carcharias]

a few things to think about .

1) how did Flanagan get the job?
2) why did he get the job
3) who gave him the job

complain about the bloke all you like ...but at the end of the day you probably only have yourselves to blame
a) for voting that board in
b) for being too lazy to become a member so you could vote.

no point crying over it now.

 

[SharkShocked]

aaaaaaah the blame shift.

Next you'll be singing his praises as our best coach in 10 years.

There is most certainly point in crying and voting with your feet.

Silence does nothing.

 

[Snoop Shark]

Flanno is a loose cannon that should be nowhere near a first grade football club. He has absolutely no people skills and evident to that is the fact we have signed not a single bloke for next season.

He is toxic especially when it comes to player managers

 

[carcharias]

aaaaaaah the blame shift.

Next you'll be singing his praises as our best coach in 10 years.

There is most certainly point in crying and voting with your feet.

Silence does nothing.

bullshit.
never have said or would say anything of the sort.
he is bog average in a sea of bog average coaches.

I am just sticking to the truth.

The board were voted in off the back of the promise to resign him.
The got voted in by the members ... then they stuck to the promise and then resigned him as coach.

All the absolute rubbish written in here is amusing though.
The completely made up shit has made this forum just one big lie fest.

merkins are twisting every single word the bloke utters into some sort of admission he doesn't give a f**k.
or
They just disregard real comments he has made and lie by saying he hasn't said them.
even when it is quoted in the press and on video with audio proving the claims complete bullshit.

The club can't afford to sack him.
This is the bit that just does not get through to you guys.



This is the reason he is coaching.
The fans lapped it up .

 

[Frailty]

bullshit.
never have said or would say anything of the sort.
he is bog average in a sea of bog average coaches.

I am just sticking to the truth.

The board were voted in off the back of the promise to resign him.
The got voted in by the members ... then they stuck to the promise and then resigned him as coach.

All the absolute rubbish written in here is amusing though.
The completely made up shit has made this forum just one big lie fest.

merkins are twisting every single word the bloke utters into some sort of admission he doesn't give a f**k.
or
They just disregard real comments he has made and lie by saying he hasn't said them.
even when it is quoted in the press and on video with audio proving the claims complete bullshit.

The club can't afford to sack him.
This is the bit that just does not get through to you guys.



This is the reason he is coaching.
The fans lapped it up .

Actually, I'm pretty sure they were elected on the promise of reinstating him (which he was prior to being suspended by the NRL) - not re-signing him.

 

[carcharias]

Actually, I'm pretty sure they were elected on the promise of reinstating him (which he was prior to being suspended by the NRL) - not re-signing him

yes I think you are correct.

however the same people voted that board in on the same outcome.. that he is coach

also steve noyce was in charge when he was re-signed

 

[Frank Discussion]

I'm not going to hang my dick too far out of my trousers but I just heard some things.
The things I heard were not direct and probably said more in their omissions than their admissions.

Let me just say that all along I have had a hunch that Lyall wants him gone and will find a way to do it and that's starting to materialise.

I realise what I said is vague and un-sourced so you will have to choose to believe it or not.

 

[Feej]

I guess it doesn't matter what side of the flanno fence you sit on, we all pretty much agree that signing him for another three years in the middle of the ASADA stuff was a clusterf**k of epic proportions.

 

[carcharias]

I guess it doesn't matter what side of the flanno fence you sit on, we all pretty much agree that signing him for another three years in the middle of the ASADA stuff was a clusterf**k of epic proportions.

I agree with that.
It locked the club into corner.
It was madness under the circumstances....MIND BOGGLING.

Now unless someone is prepared to pay him out for us we are screwed.
He'll probably sue on top.

How much did Anderson cost the club?
Imagine the lawyers costs and stuff.

 

[Frank Discussion]

I agree with that.
It locked the club into corner.
It was madness under the circumstances....MIND BOGGLING.

Now unless someone is prepared to pay him out for us we are screwed.
He'll probably sue on top.

How much did Anderson cost the club?
Imagine the lawyers costs and stuff.

Not necessarily. There are ways and means of forcing change in the head coaching position without expressly sacking him. Those ways are about making him uncomfortable so that he resigns himself.

More hunches here. I wouldn't be surprised to see the club sign Brown in some sort of Coaching Director capacity and then all of a sudden you have two roosters in the henhouse so to speak, but only one has the support of the board and CEO, so who's going to win every little battle?

 

[ghoti]

I'm not going to hang my dick too far out of my trousers but I just heard some things.
The things I heard were not direct and probably said more in their omissions than their admissions.

Let me just say that all along I have had a hunch that Lyall wants him gone and will find a way to do it and that's starting to materialise.

I realise what I said is vague and un-sourced so you will have to choose to believe it or not.

There's bound to be a way buried somewhere in amongst Flanno's governance failures regarding the Gordon/Tagataese sagas and something with the assurances Flanno made to the NRL regarding his suspension.... SURELY he could be bullied out without too much effort

Failing that, Gorman and the board would be mad not to commission an independent review of the football department. Bring in someone who has worked in good sporting structures in a coaching role to take a look at every aspect of our management, coaching and training structures and staff, get the report handed to the board and members and I guarantee the recommendation will not be 'carry on and see what happens.'