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ARLC Commission Changes

colly

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Where's the nutter who was going off at me earlier that the tv deal didn't include any contra?
Well they may say reports, but no actual source. Anyway cash component could be 1.61 FTA and Pay tv.
Add Telstra 200ml who don't do contra and your up to 1.8 billion, then add NZ 100ml then the cash component is the same as the AFL on a yearly basis. Capish
 

T-Boon

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Maloney is upset that the NRL sound smug.
Does he just mean that they say words properly? Like "yes" instead of "err"?
Or "no" instead of "yeah nah"?
 

El Diablo

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...n/news-story/b1434d9d02d7c2287e4e705c900b206c

QRL gives green light to a new 10-person ARL Commission

The final impediment to constitutional revolution has been cleared after the Queensland Rugby League last night gave the green light to a new 10-person ARL Commission to include state and club representatives, a move likely to spark a mad scramble for new commissioners.

A reformed commission could be in place within weeks provided clubs can agree on the two people they want to represent them on the body. The states will be represented by chairmen Bruce Hatcher and George Peponis.

The likes of Racing NSW chief executive Peter V’landys and former ARL chairman John Quayle have been mooted as potential appointments, although any club-nominated commissioner will require 75 per cent of the chairs to support them to gain a place on the new body.

Finding agreement between the clubs hasn’t always been easy, although they appear united at present, having been galvanised by the desire to have a greater say in the running of the game.

Last night’s developments will also put the pressure on ARL Commission chairman John Grant to find two independent directors to replace him and potentially Cathy Harris, whose term also comes to an end in February.

Grant’s search takes on added importance given the next chair is likely to be one of the two people he finds to join the commission. Australian Olympic Committee president John Coates recommended the chair remain an independent as part of his review into the commission and Hatcher said that was also Queensland’s desire.

He also said the QRL was against the chair being given a casting vote and wanted his organisation to see a copy of the new draft constitution, which will cater for the states being given direct representation via their chairs for 18 months before the situation is reviewed.

However, he confirmed the QRL was in favour of a new 10-man panel on which the clubs and states would have representatives as part of a compromise.

“We’re happy to agree to a 10-man board, but we don’t agree with the casting vote (for the chairman),” Hatcher said.

“We have said that all along. I don’t see why they wouldn’t agree with that anyway. We agree that it should be six independents and four sectional people so you have two from the states and two from the clubs.

“No doubt the chair should be independent.”

Coates’s review also insisted on the chairman remaining one of the independent commissioners, a point he reinforced yesterday in an interview with The Australian from Lausanne.

“I think it is critical,” Coates said. “When the door was left open for one of the nominated directors (of the clubs and states) to be chair in the proposal that I looked at, I highlighted that: ‘The independence of the chairman is a key recommendation under the ASC Corporate Governance Principles and I recommend no leeway be given for the directors to agree to appoint a nominated director as chairman’.

“That removes any areas of conflict. Principally in areas of finances, there should always be independence.”

In the event the chairman remains an independent, that would appear to end the push for V’landys to replace Grant at the helm. The only way that could change would be if Grant decided to make V’landys one of the two independent directors targeted to replace him in February.

Aside from V’landys and Quayle, other names linked with the commission include former News Limited boss John Hartigan, former Queensland premier Anna Bligh and Harvey Norman chief executive Katie Page.

Whoever steps into the position will need to have a thick skin, something Grant made clear as he talked about his five years in charge of the game. His tenure in recent times has been marked by ceaseless criticism, leaving him with little choice but to walk away at the start of next season.

Much of that criticism has emanated from the clubs. St George Illawarra chairman Brian Johnston recently stepped into the role at the Dragons and said the fight over constitutional reform had been an eye-opening experience. “I think any step into those circles is a very good education, not only on process but on human nature,” Johnston said.

“It has been very, very interesting. Obviously, there is a lot of passion in those meetings, a lot of strong individuals that the game can’t do without either.

“The worst thing that could happen would be those people walk away form the game. The game would be in worse shape.”
 

Last Week

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A reformed commission could be in place within weeks provided clubs can agree on the two people they want to represent them on the body. The states will be represented by chairmen Bruce Hatcher and George Peponis.

How the f**k does George Peponis represent the states when he's the chairman for the f**king Bulldogs?!

How people can't see that this entire episode is just the clubs trying to gain more power is beyond me.
 

super_coach

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A reformed commission could be in place within weeks provided clubs can agree on the two people they want to represent them on the body. The states will be represented by chairmen Bruce Hatcher and George Peponis.

How the f**k does George Peponis represent the states when he's the chairman for the f**king Bulldogs?!

How people can't see that this entire episode is just the clubs trying to gain more power is beyond me.

Self interest has always been the motivation for the power brokers at HQ. In the past the so called heavy weights of the NRL struggled to get their own way because all the little fish would gang up on them so basically nothing got done. Since the introduction of the commission the little fish have been put back in their rightful place and the heavy weights can run the NRL to suit their clubs.

I am not sure what the answer is, you need football people to have the major input into how the game is run but you also need people who are independent of any club and they are very few and far in-between
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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To me, the most pathetic thing is still the fact that our "state" representatives come from QLD and NSW exclusively...

Not even the SUGGESTION of affiliate state representation.
 

Perth Red

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To me, the most pathetic thing is still the fact that our "state" representatives come from QLD and NSW exclusively...

Not even the SUGGESTION of affiliate state representation.

The fact they are still referred to as affiliates, when in fact they are more a part of the nrl now than nsw and qland, tells you all you need to know about that.
 

taipan

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The fact they are still referred to as affiliates, when in fact they are more a part of the nrl now than nsw and qland, tells you all you need to know about that.

It's a better name than the Allies from fumbleland.Anyone would think we were fighting WW3
 

Perth Red

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Well given they are owned and run by the nrl now they can't really have a place on the commission as it would be like the nrl having a place on there, which would make no sense.
 

taipan

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Well given they are owned and run by the nrl now they can't really have a place on the commission as it would be like the nrl having a place on there, which would make no sense.

Or like the kiddies running the tuck shop more like it.
 

Last Week

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But, but, Paul Kent said clubs are sided with the RLPA against the NRL....


Referring to Prendergast, who was previously a senior executive in the AFLPA, one club boss said: "He will f--k rugby league and return to Melbourne as a conquering hero on a lifetime AFL pension."

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...ing-partnership-with-nrl-20170614-gwr0u5.html

For those who want to read without clicking on the link.

Rugby League Players Association appear focused on a governing partnership with NRL

When the RLPA lodged a 65-page document with the NRL, ahead of the current collective bargaining agreement negotiations, two demands – a free subscription to Foxtel at the players' union's Homebush headquarters and hosting and hospitality rights at every NRL game – sent club executives into a rage.

"It's not the first time I've heard this," RLPA chief executive Ian Prendergast said when contacted about the fury over the claim, defending it on the basis that players like to watch Fox Sports while they are waiting in the foyer of the Homebush office and that RLPA board members should be able to watch games from the comfort of a catered box because they provide their services for free.


The Foxtel/corporate box demands, as well as a request for 1000 grand final tickets, are likely to shift to the bottom of what the NRL describe as an ambit claim, with the

RLPA document suggesting the players' union is more focused on establishing a governing partnership with the NRL.

Under the sub heading, "Agreement and Consultation Rights and Obligations", the RLPA says it expects the NRL to consult in relation to "Strategic Plans, Government and Constitutional Changes, Club Licensing and funding arrangements, Commercial arrangements ..."

Other areas of joint decision-making, such as "NRL Competition Draw, Rules of the Game, NRL Appeals Process ..." are understandable.

Prendergast said, "we're not asking for carte blanche rights", pointing out the RLPA is entitled to question the length of an NRL season, given its impact on players' health and safety.

"The other agreement rights impact on a player's employment," he adds.

The RLPA is seeking 29 per cent of total game revenue, including Leagues Club funding, from which it is demanding a $5 million payment to finance its administration, removing the current obligation on clubs to pay players' RLPA annual subscriptions from the salary cap.

NRL clubs suspect player-managers are behind the provocative document, claiming a cabal of prominent agents have allied themselves with the RLPA at a time when the NRL is poised to expel six or seven of them from the game for their role in the Parramatta salary cap scandal.

The NRL administration, which has only one vote on the Agent Accreditation Committee, needs the support of the RLPA to move against the guilty agents.

The RLPA document proposes "the Agent Accreditation Scheme be managed and administered by the RLPA", rather than the NRL.

Another RLPA demand is that it "be notified, at the same time as the player, and provided with related intelligence regarding any investigation into player incident/behaviour".

Clubs perceive this as a move by player-managers to control the investigation/punishment.

Asked what role the player managers had in the RLPA claim, Prendergast, a lawyer, sounded like a graduate from the Harvard Business School, saying: "There was comprehensive stakeholder involvement in the process. We consulted with a range of people in the industry plus we consulted with other sports."

Yes, but what role did the agents play?

"To say one stakeholder has had a dominant impact is to trivialise the whole consultative process designed to lift professional standards across the board."

The language of some of the NRL club officials is less convoluted.

Referring to Prendergast, who was previously a senior executive in the AFLPA, one club boss said: "He will f--k rugby league and return to Melbourne as a conquering hero on a lifetime AFL pension."

Told of this accusation, Prendergast exuded a Zen-like calm, saying: "It's not about me. We've got a strong governance process in place. I take directions from a board, including [Australian captain] Cameron Smith and our independent directors."

True. Smith and other player representatives, such as NSW's James Maloney, have been very vocal in their support, although clubs question whether many players have actually read the 65-page RLPA document.

Yet, there is little doubt the majority of players will break free of their traditional lethargy towards the union and back Prendergast.

After all, footballers of all codes have been taught at a very early age that the root of all evil is poverty.
 

Perth Red

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QRL place $20m price tag on support for new ARLC constitution

Clubs will have to cough up $20 million to push through the constitutional reforms required to give them a say on the independent commission after the Queensland Rugby League named its price to support the proposal.

Australian Rugby League chairman John Grant will meet with club chairs on Thursday for what promises to be a robust discussion on topics including club funding, collective bargaining agreement negotiations and constitutional reform. The future make-up of the commission itself will also be a talking point as the parties move towards a 10-person model that will give the clubs representation via two members, while the NSWRL and QRL will also have a seat at the table.

Any constitutional reform requires at least 14 clubs and the two state bodies to be on board under the current charter, although the QRL has held off supporting the process until it has guarantees that grassroots will get sufficient funding.

To that end, the QRL is seeking the reinstatement of $20 million worth of funding it claims was originally slated for the body at the inception of the Australian Rugby League Commission but has since been redirected towards the clubs. It is now up to the clubs, still concerned about their own funding needs, to decide whether that is a price they are willing to pay to have a greater say in the running of the game.

"It's ridiculous to suggest you can gouge a sum of money to suit your own ends," said QRL boss Bruce Hatcher."We want to see a tangible commitment to ensure grassroots isn't forgotten.

"Of the original five-year plan where grassroots funding would have this pool of $100 million ??? We now know that $20 million of that has been taken out of that and given to the clubs. The balance of that fund is not available for season 2018.

"It's quite disturbing that the NRL clubs have seen fit to gouge that to balance their requirements. With no explanation or support, we've got to re-jig our [funding arrangements].

"If we can't get the support of the clubs to that being fundamental to our efficient functioning, then just getting a seat on the board [means little].

"If you haven't been able to garner that support from your stakeholders it doesn't augur well if the following year there is another shortfall coming out of grassroots funding and you eventually disappear because you can't fund your operations."

http://www.beaudeserttimes.com.au/s...ag-on-support-for-new-arlc-constitution/?cs=7
 

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