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ARLC Commission Changes

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The outer ring only adds up to 99%.......call in the auditors, the players/clubs are being ripped off ....

(insert "outrage" emoticon here)
 

Perth Red

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Read this morning that the RLPA wanted to include contra in the games revenue as part of a revenue share deal. It also reported that cash component of the new rights deal was $1.61bn. I don't believe that included NZ rights.

Where's the nutter who was going off at me earlier that the tv deal didn't include any contra?
 

taipan

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the 21.5 million to Admin is too much for what they deliver

Think insurance would be a decent premium.Building cots? Assume that means base outlays toward new stadiums such as NQL/ANZ/Parra???
Need to know admin numbers at head office, whether that includes digital, rent.Commissioners' fees, new
NSWRL HQ at Homebush?
It's obvious the cash is not a great as first indicated, the players should get the full break up and if need be suck tit up.If there are less bikkies in the cupboard, the kids get less.Basic accounting.
 

beave

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I know for NQ, we took/taking out a $10mil loan to go towards the build (covers 10 years rent I believe) the NRL are covering the interest on the loan. I'd hope they or the club get some sort of managerial rights out of it like the AFL did on the GC.
 

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...mona-makes-a-fresh-start-20170603-gwju1h.html

New fight for Grant

He's at war with the clubs, the players and even his own chief executive. And now a contingent of former greats have formed the NRL Reform Group to call for the head of John Grant. The ARLC chairman is under attack on a fresh front after Balmain legend Larry Corowa began rallying disgruntled former stars as part of a fresh revolution against head office.

Corowa (pictured) believes the much-vaunted independent commission hasn't delivered on its promises since its inception and his views are shared by many of his contemporaries. The former NSW and Australian representative has, with the help of Keith Braden, created the NRL Reform Group, a collection of disaffected greats demanding change at Rugby League Central. Some of league's biggest names are getting behind the movement and a manifesto will be presented to head office.
 

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So $160.2 mil went to clubs. That seems like too much.

I agree. It's obviously more than the club grants. Probably includes costs for the Titans and Knights.

Imagine how much that will balloon when the new deal/grants kick in.
 

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I agree. It's obviously more than the club grants. Probably includes costs for the Titans and Knights.

Imagine how much that will balloon when the new deal/grants kick in.

According to their audited financials It was
$160,177mill club grants
$7.52mill In club bail outs

Interestingly there is no mention in the annual report or financials of spending of the advance of the tv deal reported to have been requested when deal was signed?
 

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...n-grant-could-rise-again-20170606-gwlfsa.html

QRL holds key to ARLC constitution change as clubs fear John Grant could rise again
Rugby league is five globules of mercury chasing each other across a marble table, seeking unity in one uneasy blob, but never quite achieving it.

The ARLC, the NRL administration, RLPA, the 16 clubs and two state bodies all seem to be in a state of perpetual collision over money or representation.


Now, however, there appears to be consensus between the clubs and states over a new ARLC constitution – but no agreement yet on who will sit at the ARLC table.

South Sydney chairman Nick Pappas has proposed a solution to the quandary of the states being directly represented on the ARLC while the clubs are not.

The Titans, Knights and Eels have correctly pointed out the double standard of the NSWRL and QRL being represented on a nine-person commission by their respective chairs, Dr George Peponis and Bruce Hatcher, while the clubs are forced to name two directors with no direct affiliation to them.

Pappas proposes the two state chairmen serve only for 18 months on the ARLC before they are replaced by two new nominees.

The 16 clubs would divide into two groups: one pool of the 11 NRL member clubs of the NSWRL and one pool of five, representing the three Queensland clubs, the Storm and Warriors.

Each of the two groups would nominate an independent director for the standard three-year ARLC term.

The two state chairmen would be given terms half as long as the club nominees in order to placate the Titans, Eels and Knights,who have opposed the direct representation of the NSWRL and QRL.

There is an unrelenting Sydney push for Dr Peponis, a former Australian captain, to join the commission but uncertainty surrounds Hatcher, who is close to fellow Brisbane resident and current ARLC chair, John Grant.

For constitutional change to take effect, both states must agree.

While the NSWRL is willing to have an ARLC of five independent commissioners outnumbering two each from the states and clubs, the QRL has been historically reluctant to surrender its veto power.

Canterbury chair Ray Dib has been campaigning for Racing NSW's chief executive, Peter V'landys, as the nominee of the NSW-based NRL clubs.

But some of the more astute chairmen question whether some Sydney clubs understand the need for the representatives of the clubs to be independent.

They point out that if Dr Peponis, a former Bulldogs premiership captain, joins the commission, together with Dib's choice, Canterbury could have two sympathisers at the table.

(V'landys says, "I'm 100 percent baggage-free and a puppet to no one".)

There has been no formal agreement by NSW's NRL clubs on their nominee, should Pappas' proposal for constitutional reform be accepted.

The Queensland/Melbourne/Auckland bloc of clubs has been left out of the push for V'landys, with them assuming the recent media coverage of his candidature, mainly in News Corporation newspapers, is a media phenomenon.

This bloc of clubs has not, as yet, chosen its nominee.

There are other major obstacles to constitutional reform. As pointed out by the Herald in February, NSWRL's own constitution forbids Dr Peponis sitting on the commission.

Under the Corporations Act, it will require a vote of 75 per cent of attending members to rescind rule 31(k) that says the NSWRL's independent directors cannot hold a position on the ARLC.

As president of Canterbury Leagues Club, Dr Peponis is also in breach of the ARLC rules that state a commissioner cannot be a member of a related rugby league entity.

However, the constitutional change proposed by Pappas would remove that obstacle.

The QRL's existing rules are more relaxed, simply requiring an independent director to disclose any conflict before being appointed.

Pappas' proposal is moving towards the model suggested by AOC president, John Coates, when he completed his review of the ARLC constitution early this year.

While Coates was opposed to the clubs having direct representation, he gave a nod to the state chairmen sitting on the commission, providing they left the room when conflict of interest issues arose.

For example, budgetary discussions over funding, where the states received $60 million last year, would require the NSWRL and QRL chairs to absent themselves.

It was this concession by Coates that Dib and a subcommittee of chairmen say was not passed on to clubs when Grant reported back to them.

They fear their campaign to oust Grant will be frustrated by him resigning, as flagged, in February, and then simply have the commission re-elect him.

They suspect Grant has not replaced the two commissioners who have resigned because he wishes to control its numbers.

Perhaps Grant can't find anyone willing to take all the heat of the quicksilver collisions. Rugby league's universe is small, but it has always known Mercury is the planet closest to the sun.
 

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...tells-restless-nrl-clubs-20170606-gwlt49.html

You'll get your money, ARLC chairman John Grant tells restless NRL clubs
John Grant met with club representatives on Tuesday in an attempt to repair severed relations and reassure the 16 teams the NRL's cash crisis won't result in them missing out on the funds promised last December.

Grant will front club powerbrokers at a chairman's meeting on June 15, which is shaping as an important date in his tenure. The ARLC chairman is under pressure on several fronts, ranging from disenchanted club bosses through to an agitated players' union that feels his administration has blown its budget and is making its members pay.

There is a new threat via the formation of the "NRL Reform Group", a collective of former players seeking Grant's resignation in the belief the independent commission has failed to deliver since its inception.

Grant caught up with South Sydney chairman Nick Pappas, Brisbane counterpart Dennis Watt and Melbourne's Bart Campbell on Tuesday in a bid to ease tensions between the parties before the June 15 gathering. The clubs have been on edge following a meeting last month in which the NRL's head of services, Tony Crawford, floated the prospect of delaying club payments until the end of the next funding cycle due to Rugby League Central's cash-flow dramas.

The backflip put a fresh target on Grant's head and prompted Pappas to shoot him a scathing email demanding stronger leadership on behalf of the clubs. Fairfax Media has obtained a copy of Grant's reply, in which he revealed he has pulled NRL CEO Todd Greenberg into line and vowed the clubs would get the funds they were originally promised.

"We acknowledge the very strong sense of disappointment of chairs after [the] events, particularly given the experiences of last year," Grant wrote.

"Our discussion with Todd was clear that this sort of situation must not be repeated.

"[Last month's meeting] which included a highly collaborative and productive session on the CBA, was unsatisfactory in addressing the cash flow challenge that comes with the funding agreement that was flagged in December.

"The commission is committed to honouring our December 2016 agreement."

Grant's funding assurance took some of the immediate pressure of the embattled chairman, but the clubs are wary of any devils in the detail when they reconvene on Friday week.

Campbell was chiefly responsible for securing grants totalling 130 per cent of player payments, with commissioner Tony McGrath chiefly tasked with delivering on the NRL's promise.

Regardless, the NRL Reform Group, the brainchild of Balmain legend Larry Corowa, is hoping to add to its ranks when it meets at Cabramatta Golf Club from 7pm next Monday. The collective is calling for other players and officials from all levels of the game to unite to demand a major overhaul at head office.

"WE WANT OUR GAME BACK," reads a text sent to some of the game's biggest names.

"We are all about complete transparency in regards to management, funding, employment & especially governance, along with making the game a contest from start to finish and making it once again a game for all people …"

Meanwhile, NRL and club representatives said they would reconvene in the coming weeks after a two-day lock-up to advance negotiations on a new collective bargaining agreement concluded on Tuesday evening.

"All parties are treating the negotiations seriously and respectfully and we look forward to making further progress in the weeks ahead," NRL chief operating officer Nick Weeks said.
 

taipan

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But it's not about the money according to the RLPA and some of the players.
My employer would love me .,champ I'm here to help" it's not about the money.Pay me the minimum and I'll lick your boots."
Employment wherever is about the money, yes you can love your work, but love don't pay the bills, love can give you cheap thrills.
 

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...e/news-story/e6d9256aae8b98bcfdf7a45aad7ea3e2

ARL Commission shake-up looms with chairman John Grant’s departure
Phil Rothfield, Sports Editor-at-Large, The Sunday Telegraph
June 7, 2017 6:07pm

JOHN Grant’s decision to quit as chairman will bring about rugby league’s biggest administration shake-up since the independent commission came into power.

A replacement is expected to come from outside the current commissioners with NSW Rugby league chairman George Peponis or Racing NSW boss Peter V’landys the frontrunners.

Dr Peponis would have to stand down from his NSW Rugby league role. He is a former Kangaroos and premiership winning captain with wide support across the game.

V’landys is one of Australia’s most dynamic sporting administrators and would have plenty of support from the clubs, the government and the corporate world.

Reports in Fairfax media that there are concerns he is too close to Canterbury Bulldogs supremo Ray Dib are incorrect. The pair have in fact never even met.

With Grant on the way out there are only three ‘originals’ left on the commission — Wayne Pearce, Catherine Harris and Chris Sarra who have all been there since the start.

It is unlikely all three will stay, especially as Harris and Pearce have been huge Grant supporters.

None of them are considered capable enough to be any chance of taking Grant’s job.

Grant and Harris were up for re- appointment in 2018, Chris Sara, Gary Weiss and Wayne Pearce in 2019 with Tony McGrath in 2020.

Officials hope to finalise the make-up of the commission before the end of the season. That way Grant can quietly disappear after handing out the World Cup medals.

There will be two new representatives from the state and two from the clubs on a revamped commission.

State nominations will come from the NSWRL and the QRL. The clubs are expected to make V’landys one of their two nominations. That will leave five from the NRL once Grant goes on a new nine-person commission.

What role Grant plays in the changeover negotiations will be monitored closely by the key stakeholders.
 

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...prepares-to-vacate-chair-20170607-gwmmd2.html

Clubs shoud be careful what they wish for as John Grant prepares to vacate chair
John Grant's decision to put an end date to his controversial chairmanship of the Australian Rugby League Commission is likely to be better news for Todd Greenberg than the disgruntled clubs that have been agitating for his head.

Grant will present the Rugby League World Cup, most likely to Cameron Smith, and disappear from the league landscape soon afterwards. The clubs, some more bullish than others in pushing for his removal, are about to find out if they were better off with the devil they know.

"Rightly or wrongly, Grant had become a lightning rod for the disaffection of the clubs," one club powerbroker said.

The ARLC board was set up in such a way as to ensure it is self-replenishing. As it stands, the constitution - and the clubs have never been sufficiently unified enough to change it - states that Grant's successor will be appointed by the remaining commissioners. Having fought so hard for Grant's removal, it's unlikely the new boss will be any more sympathetic to the plight of those in clubland than the previous one.

Grant's exit will go some way to appeasing the game's major stakeholders. Head office has fallen out with the clubs and the players as both parties agitate for what they believe is a fair share of the broadcast bounty.

The NRL's handling of its cash-flow crisis has also caused angst within, with Grant and CEO Todd Greenberg at loggerheads. It had become apparent both of them couldn't remain long term. Greenberg was blamed for an apparent attempt to backflip on the promised funding to clubs, as evidenced by an email Grant sent them stating: "Our discussion with Todd was clear that this sort of situation must not be repeated."

Grant will depart in eight months after announcing he will not be seeking reappointment when his current terms ends. Whether the NRL is able to sort out a collective bargaining agreement within that time frame remains to be seen. Of more immediate concern is a showdown with club chairs next week, eager to hear if there are any strings attached to the funding he promised them last December. If there are any more hiccups in getting their money, the former Kangaroo's farewell party will be held before February.

While the clubs will have no say in Grant's replacement, they are seeking to press ahead with the constitutional reform that will give them greater representation on the commission. The Queensland Rugby League have been painted as the stumbling block in the process. Rabbitohs chairman Nick Pappas, tasked with representing the clubs in such matters alongside Melbourne's Bart Campbell and Brisbane's Dennis Watts, has written to QRL chairman Bruce Hatcher in an attempt to get his organisation on board.

They need QRL sign off to create a new look-commission model in which the clubs would have two representatives, the states would have a seat each at the table and the remaining 10 commissioners would be comprised of the six 'independents' from the commission.

It was initially suggested that the QRL representative would spend two years on the commission. However, the clubs are now pushing for him to do so for 18 months before vacating the seat and appointing an 'independent', someone that can represent the interests of the QRL but not be a member of it.

The clubs want an answer from Hatcher by close of business Monday and he has vowed to meet the deadline.

"I would hate to think we're as shallow as being a stumbling block," Hatcher said.

"We are certainly not hindering, holding up or obstructing in any way. We have the greater interests of the whole game at heart.

"The clubs have negotiated a 30 per cent increase in their funding, but from our point of view we want stability in our funding so that we can continue to look after grassroots.

"It's frustrating to have the negotiations go on to the exclusion of the state leagues and then be handed a paper which says 16 clubs have reached consensus, it's now up to you to follow suit.

"We need to make sure that what happens now is in the greater good for the long term. We need to leave a governance structure that comes to the right conclusions for the right reasons, not on the basis of being told this is good for you."

Under the proposed 10-person model, a vote any any issue could end in a deadlock. The situation hasn't been lost on Hatcher.

"I amused by this, that they would allow the chairman the casting vote," he said.

"For two years, the clubs have been saying they want to remove the chairman. But in the event we come to a deadlock in a new structure, we will allow the chairman to have the casting vote. There is an irony in that."
 

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