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Zoidberg

First Grade
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In the Panthers Roosters game, if the bunker took away the roosters try where Cleary stuck his arm out and tried to claim obstruction, I would’ve 100% give up on the game as a whole.
I hate when teams play for penalties.
 
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Yosh

Coach
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We must be kicking ourselves for not chasing Nanai a bit harder, before his coming out party.

He is so talented. It's not just fancy moves and hard hits. He always knows where to be and has the energy and enthusiasm to get there.
 

Woosh

Head Moderator
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The gap between the NRL’s premiership heavyweights and struggling clubs is widening.

Last year we blamed the new rules, more fatigue and a faster game for a record number of scoreline blowouts rather than the class and quality difference across the 16 clubs.

Valuing every player at every club – a task I undertook with colleague Brent Read – shows the salary cap is not working and we can’t blame the new rules.


An analysis of the 16 clubs shows that the Sydney Roosters and the Penrith Panthers are, at least on paper, worth up to $3 million worth than some of their rivals.

All clubs might be spending $9.6 million but the Roosters are actually worth $11.55 million and the Panthers $11.05 million by our calculations.

At the same time the Cowboys are worth just $8.02 million and the Bulldogs $8.23 million.

So how did we value them? It’s mostly around form from last year and having sought the opinions of player agents and recruitment experts.

OVERPAID PLAYERS

There are a couple of interesting cases that illustrate why a club like the Cowboys will struggle to compete against their stronger rivals.

Val Holmes is in the salary cap at around $900,000 but we’ve valued him at $550,000. Jason Taumalolo is valued at $750,000 but is paid more than $1 million. Jordan McLean is in the cap at around $650,000 but we rate him a $375,000 front-rower.

There are similar examples among other rosters. Veteran Raiders skipper and centre Jarrod Croker is on around $800,000 in the cap. At this stage of his career he’s worth more like $400,000.

The Knights pay Dave Klemmer $900,000 but he’s probably now worth only half that.

MOST VALUABLE

We have rated champion Manly Sea Eagles fullback Tom Trbojevic and Penrith’s premiership winning half-back Nathan Cleary as $1.4 million players.

Next is Sydney Roosters fullback and Blues Origin skipper James Tedesco at $1.2 million.

Under our estimates the three best players in the competition provide outstanding value to their clubs because they are getting paid well below that amount.

Newly appointed Newcastle Knights skipper Kalyn Ponga is rated the fourth highest at $1.1 million which is close to what he is getting paid. We rate David Fifita, the game’s most destructive forward, at $1 million.
THE IMBALANCE

On face value it’s hard to see how the Roosters can squeeze in so much talent yet stay under the cap. They made the semi-finals last year despite losing the likes of Boyd Cordner, Jake Friend, Brett Morris, Lindsay Collins and Luke Keary.

It is a fact players will stay or sign with the Roosters for less than they can get elsewhere.

There is the attraction of playing under super coach Trent Robinson, winning premierships and playing representative football from a successful side.

This also applies to Melbourne Storm and Craig Bellamy who has such a great record of turning mediocre footballers into great players.

At the other end of the scale teams like the Wests Tigers have to pay way ‘overs’. They have Luke Brooks on $900,000 yet we suggest he’s worth more like $550,000. James Tamou is on close to $800,000 but is no longer in that big-money league.

THE BLOWOUTS

Last season saw the most number of blowouts in 86 years of rugby league. On one forgettable Super Saturday we had a combined score line of 148-6.

Rather than build to achieve sustainable success, impatient clubs and coaches are panic buying looking for immediate results. To try to become a top four or top eight club overnight.

It’s not working. This analysis of the rosters proves that.
 

Woosh

Head Moderator
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BRONCOS

Te Maire Martin 80k

Tyson Gamble 150k

Adam Reynolds 800k

Billy walters 120k

Total -1.15m

BULLDOGS

Matt Dufty 200k

Matt Burton 500k

Kyle Flanagan 450k

Jeremy Marshall-King 350k

Total - 1.5m

COWBOYS

Hamiso Tabuai-Fidow 450k

Tom Dearden 400k

Chad Townsend 800k

Reece Robson 450k

Total 2.1m

DRAGONS

Tyrrell Sloan 220k

Junior Amone 350k

Ben Hunt 1.2m

Andrew McCullough 400k

Total 2.14m

EELS

Clint Gutherson 750k

Dylan Brown 800k

Mitch Moses 900k

Reed Mahoney 450k

Total 2.9m

KNIGHTS

Kalyn Ponga 1.05m

Jake Clifford 300k

Adam Clune 180k

Jayden Brailey 500k

Total 1.985m

PANTHERS

Dylan Edwards 500k

Jarome Luai 700k

Nathan Cleary 1.1m

Api Koroisau 600k

Total 2.9m

RABBITOHS

Latrell Mitchell 850k

Cody Walker 700k

Lachlan Illias 300k

Damien Cook 700k

Total 2.55m

RAIDERS

CNK 500k

Jack Wighton 850k

Jamal Fogarty 550k

Josh Hodgson 800k

Total 2.7m

ROOSTERS

Tedesco 1.1m

Sam Walker 400k

Luke Keary 800k

Sam Verrils 450k

Total 2.75m

SEA EAGLES

Tom Turbo 1.1m

Keiran Foran 250k

DCE 1.2m

Lachlan Croker 300k

Total 2.85m

SHARKS

Will Kennedy 400k

Matt Moylan 450k

Nicho Hynes 600k

Blayke Brailey 500k

total 1.95m

STORMS

Ryan Papenhyzen 650k

Cam Munster 1m

Jarome Hughes 700k

Harry Grant 450k

total 2.8m

TIGERS

Daine Laurie 450k

Luke Brooks 960k

Jackson Hastings 500k

Jake Simpkin 150k

Total 2.06m

TITANS

Jayden Campbell 350k

AJ Brimson 600k

Toby Sexton 400k

Erin Clarke 300k

Total 1.65m

WARRIORS

Reece Walsh 350k

CHT 300k

Shaun Johnson 500k

Wade Egan 400k

Total 1.55m

 

Knight Tales

Bench
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Yes! One game makes a player. Thank you.
This is simply inaccurate. His form has coincided with their wins so you make of that what you want. He’s not a world beater but I bet he makes more effort plays than many of our underperforming higher paids.
 
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PhilGould

Bench
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I mentioned I would like the signing more if he was a direct replacement for Mann. I think he can be an upgrade at the lock/hooker/utility role but as it stands we have too much sameness across the squad. My hope is Wigan and/or Huddersfield want a player in return for KPP/Pryce and we can clear out some dead weight. Mann, Fitzgibbon, Johns, Clune could all be enticing for Super League teams.

Tapine was the real star today, totally dominant. Been in the conversation for best prop in the comp all season and not far behind in the past few seasons. How some on here don't rate him is beyond me.
 

Sir Galahad

Juniors
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Adam Elliott outstanding today. Try and 154 metres in 66 mins.
1 swallow does not make a summer unfortunately.

His career stats are at best average and he's win percentage nothing short of horrendous.

I'll be cheering him on none the less and hope he takes his game to the next level at Newy.
 

Sir Galahad

Juniors
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My hope is Wigan and/or Huddersfield want a player in return for KPP/Pryce and we can clear out some dead weight. Mann, Fitzgibbon, Johns, Clune could all be enticing for Super League teams.
Please let it be, maybe if we all wish together the universe will answer
 

Jono078

Referee
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To my surprise, Tapine leads all forwards this year for metres per game. He's doing really well.

Elliott has been very serviceable for Canberra. I'm just not sure I'm happy with what we've paid to bring him here.
 

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