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Old dog

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Yeah nah. Galvin’s a little prick. You want to criticise your coach publicly like that you’re fair game.
Think that statement was only made after the decision when asked why and he made a comment that I am sure he will regret for at least his career if not his life or was Manager orientated.
Galvin is young and inexperienced with many $ signs dangled in front of him, Career and financial pressure
 

Knight Tales

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Yeah nah. Galvin’s a little prick. You want to criticise your coach publicly like that you’re fair game.
Where did he publicly criticise him? He went to Richo with his manager with the grievances. The media made it public. Saying you want to develop at another club could mean many things. Dom went on record as saying he went to the Roosters to win titles. IS that saying AOB is a bad coach? or is it just the opportunities ?

The rest around Galvin is a total pile on. He'll learn for sure. But those terms used are pretty strong for a 19 year old kid who has played barely a season of football.
 
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Mr_Knightside

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I kinda applaud Luai and Api etc for drawing a line in the sand. I personally think it would have been pretty weak for the Tigers to continue picking him in the team after he’s said “don’t offer me a contract because I’m not staying” a whole 2 years out.

Is that actually bullying? Or is it good leadership in a situation where keeping him in the top 17 would likely result in fallout that affects other players and makes the club look weak too.

In just about any workplace, if someone tells management that they don’t want to be there and are just treading water until they get an opportunity to leave, I would fully expect management to remove any important responsibilities from their grasp and give those responsibilities to those who want to do it and will take it seriously. Then that individual can do whatever jobs management feels is appropriate for their level of commitment. That’s if they’re not just shown the door immediately (which in some industries would happen) or managed out of the business (which tends to happen in most cases) so I really don’t see this Galvin situation as being different to that. He’s flagged his intention to leave so the club has no obligation to make things great for him and if they want to sit him in reserve grade they have every right.
 

Mr_Knightside

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Also, Galvin being in reserve grade might just be protecting him because he won’t be under the intense spotlight quite as much and probably won’t have the whole Wests fan base booing him when he’s playing in front of 180 people at 12pm on a Saturday at some random venue.

Some other club will still sign him on a big contract anyway so I can’t see that impacting his opportunities too much.
 

Woody90

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Where did he publicly criticise him? He went to Richo with his manager with the grievances. The media made it public. Saying you want to develop at another club could mean many things. Dom went on record as saying he went to the Roosters to win titles. IS that saying AOB is a bad coach? or is it just the opportunities ?

The rest around Galvin is a total pile on. He'll learn for sure. But those terms used are pretty strong for a 19 year old kid who has played barely a season of football.

How do you think the media found out about Galvin’s feelings? Especially the specifics around not rating Marshall? Via osmosis? It’s been leaked to them by Moses and while this bloke is an absolute snake, he’s not an idiot. If what he’s leaked didn’t represent Galvin’s feelings or Galvin didn’t want it out there he wouldn’t have done it. He’d lose too many clients. Galvin’s press statement is also completely telling. If he didn’t think those things about Benji, or at least didn’t want that public, he would have immediately denied it…he’s doubled down though.

Like Mr Knightside pointed out too: the other players reaction to this tells you everything you need if there was any doubt already. Say whatever you want about those Penrith players, but they’re from an extremely professional club, what the player did would have to be extreme to get this kind of reaction.

The Dom thing here is completely different. His line about Roosters and premierships, players throw that sort of thing around all the time when they leave their clubs, AOB wasn’t singled out and called a bad coach publicly. Players leave because they don’t rate their coaches all the time, but they have enough respect and dignity to not name and shame them and allow it to go public. I one I feel really sorry for in all of this is Marshall.
 
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Apey

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Carrying it out on social media is childish stuff.

Galvin is overestimating himself. Turning down 1M/year at 19 is insane.
 

Apey

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You're crazy if you don't think he's got at least a bigger deal somewhere else already on the table
Oh for sure, just in isolation the idea of a 19 year old kid who may or may not turn out to be a superstar can turn down a 1M/year deal is absurd.

I'd just about let the team run a train on me for $1M a year.
 

TooheysNew

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Appealing to the authority of noted intellectual Jerome Luai, haha.

Everyone involved has handled this poorly, with the exception of Issac Moses who once again is going to out maneuver the dumb tigers and get his client an early release.
It doesn't make any difference if he's a noted intellectual or not. He is a senior player in a club. That's the only thing that matters.
 

Old dog

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Galvin has turned nothing down, he will get his $1m a year wherever he goes just being picky about where.
Again whole thing handled badly on all sides
 
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The irony is by way of their handling of this issue the Tigers have confirmed Galvin's decision to play elsewhere is the correct one.

That press release reads like an Sunday arvo SMS by a butt hurt closing time pick-up from the bar - dead-set amateur hour.

News cycles have a lifespan of around 6 weeks. He'll get good coin where ever he goes, hopefully for him it's a club with pedigree to develop him and win Premierships. With the favorable access journalism off the back of it, this is merely a speed-bump on the road.
 

TooheysNew

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The irony is by way of their handling of this issue the Tigers have confirmed Galvin's decision to play elsewhere is the correct one.

That press release reads like an Sunday arvo SMS by a butt hurt closing time pick-up from the bar - dead-set amateur hour.

News cycles have a lifespan of around 6 weeks. He'll get good coin where ever he goes, hopefully for him it's a club with pedigree to develop him and win Premierships. With the favorable access journalism off the back of it, this is merely a speed-bump on the road.
I think the exact opposite. I think it's shown they're finally not going to be dicked around by player managers.

If anything, the reaction of the players and Tigers fans shows that the clubs position was the correct one.
 
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I think the exact opposite. I think it's shown they're finally not going to be dicked around by player managers.

If anything, the reaction of the players and Tigers fans shows that the clubs position was the correct one.
The press release was amateur, reads like a kid prepared it, and only served to stir the story.

In the statement, they will not be releasing him early. A stupid thing to say. Never lay your cards on the table like that.

Now they have 2 choices
1) keep a potentially cancerous squad member for 18 months, the media scrutiny, the players union etc
2) back track and look weak like they're still getting dicked around and manipulated by player managers.
 

Apey

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It might just be pedantry on my part but the weirdest part of the Tigers statement for me was how it started with "We would like to announce". An odd way of phrasing it, that's usually how you would phrase positive news - even if that's what they think it is, it seems inappropriate to say that in an official club press release.
 

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