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Shark

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Millers - You obviously weren't in Brisbane.

We were getting BELTED until Sully came on.

It was shaping up as a massacre. We had nothing. 12 points against us did not do Brisbane justice.

When Sullivan came on, our WHOLE dynamic changed.

We went on the front foot.

We tightened up in the ruck.

Noddy had more time to plan kicks.

We SCORED TRIES.

You know the rest. Even the Bronco fans sitting near me were stunned by the impact he had.

So, mate, if people talking about a performance that turned a game single-handedly in BRISBANE against the BRONCOS just after your mum has passed away constitutes hype, then we're guilty.
 

millersnose

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Sharkies all the Way said:
Im glad your not the coach Millers.


I am too

i lack the skill, experience and desire


however i do enjoy throwing my opinion on the table

IMO without Sully this year we would be last. Eg. Without SUlly on field in recent games we concede 12 points and dont threaten in attack, Sullivan comes on and we blitz it.

well his big chance to do that was against canberra last week

he didnt


"blitz it" - i dont think so

in terms of importance to the team ir regards to your "we would be last without him" comments i would place

kimmorley
stevens
bailey
peachey
nutley
gallen
mcgoldrick

and others way up the list ahead of sullivan

There hasnt been that much hype about him anyway, its just been 'yea, hes a good player'.

i am not going to count them but he is probably in the top 3 on this forum in terms of threads devoted to them

media hype is present also with daley in particulair rapping him for doing jack


sorry if i upset anyone

but it is my sincerely held opinion
 

Macca

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Millersnose said:
hype is undue praise on a borderline first grader

You have been saying that there is alot of hype around Sully. What conclusion can we draw from this other than, you think Sully doesn't deserve the praise he has been getting. You also think he is only borderline first grade. Seems you don't think he deserves much praise at all, if any.
 

millersnose

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shark

my opinion was shared by many

if you have a look at the daly m points from brisbane the judge agrees with me as sullivan didnt get a point

i am sorry if my opinion offends you
 

Macca

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I am not offended by your opinion Millers, I value it. I just don't get you on this one.
 

blacktip-reefy

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Sullivan V Wing

Sully more tactical kicks, by far
sully more try assists, by far
Sully more line breaks, assists by far
Sully more tries by far
sully more tackles, by far
Sully less missed tackles by far

that is a pretty comprehensive victory Millers, why do you think that Wing is better than Sullivan as well?
Your argument that he is fringe first grader is pretty non sensical with the facts & stats at hands & given that he is the first bloke the coach selects in the team after Nuttley and Noddy.
Last year maybe in a very bad team where even Noddy played less than a handful of games that could not be described as disgraceful.
But better squad, better coach & both have improved markedly.
I'm not up for the "hype" of saying that Sullivan should replace kimmorley. But other than that, I don't think there is "hype" per say.
he is just playing very well & is deserving cemented first grader & will continue to be.
If Noddy wasn't here, he would be our half back.
 

millersnose

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if noddy wasnt there perhaps he would

"if onlys" and "what ifs" arent gonna win it though reefy

i do agree with you that he is improving

he is also capable of a bad game ie canberra

and reefy...honestly who would you have in your team first

jason stevens david peachey or sullivan

it was nice of the coach to make such a comment shortly after sullivans mother passed away though
 

Shark

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millersnose said:
if you have a look at the daly m points from brisbane the judge agrees with me as sullivan didnt get a point

Really? I have to say to have got me there Millers, that really surprises me. Channel 9 gave him Man of the Match I thought, so that's a turn-up.

Still, he was great in that game and I think you needed to be there to really appreciate the impact he had.

And I'm not offended at all mate, this is just healthy debate. You know that!
 

blacktip-reefy

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I can get them if you want me too.
you know they are right.
the only thing I have left out is Wings injury misses.
But if i went to the effort of averaging them out per game basis, sully would still win all.
Please don't make do that. it is quite time consuming.

Stevo is my first picked. he is the key.
noddy is important, but as shown in Brisbane, maybe not critical anymore.
peachey definitely becausethere is nobody else to take pressureoff the half, whoever that maybe.
 

millersnose

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Shark said:
millersnose said:
if you have a look at the daly m points from brisbane the judge agrees with me as sullivan didnt get a point

Really? I have to say to have got me there Millers, that really surprises me. Channel 9 gave him Man of the Match I thought, so that's a turn-up.

Still, he was great in that game and I think you needed to be there to really appreciate the impact he had.

And I'm not offended at all mate, this is just healthy debate. You know that!

i actually thought it the best game i have seen him play

but i still wouldnt have him in the top 3 on the field

and pssst the "offended thing is just to rile reefy up ;-)
 

Macca

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He didn't get any points but he was 9's MoM. He deserved some points imo but we've been through that. Sully is a very important part of our team now and I'd pick

Peachey
Noddy
Stevo then

Sully.

That's just my opinion, I hope it doesn't offend you Millers.
 

millersnose

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blacktip-reefy said:
I can get them if you want me too.
you know they are right.



the only thing I have left out is Wings injury misses.
But if i went to the effort of averaging them out per game basis, sully would still win all.
Please don't make do that. it is quite time consuming.


you dont have to reefy if you dont want

i am not going to bother either

other than to say

sullivan - fringe first grader

wing - international
 

Macca

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That's your opinion Millers. In the coach's mind he is obviously not on the fringe.
 

millersnose

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McSharkie said:
That's just my opinion, I hope it doesn't offend you Millers.

nothing offends me mcsharkie

except liars and people willing to drag peoples names through the mud to bignote themselves

/cheap pogo shot
 

Macca

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Geez, I thought you were calling me a liar then. Pogo is a champion, you guys just lost the plot with him.
 

millersnose

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you seem to be a loyal sort of fellow mcsharkie and i like you

therefor i am going to back off discussing the lying pile of putrid puss that is pogo with you
 

Macca

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That's not really backing off but I am sure we'll all get over it. I'll drop it too.
 

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