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Australian Team v New Zealand

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I'm not surprised. Mal would do anything to win a game of footy. It's clearly a desperate move. Just look at what happened to Uate Semi. You're going to end up like that.

Most of the Kangaroos team don't even want Semi in the side. I'd be embarrassed to show up to training if I was him.
 

skeepe

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The more I think about it, selecting Darius Boyd at fullback makes less and less sense.

There are some absolutley fantastic fullbacks in the competition in much better form than Boyd at the moment. There's even one of them in the team - at centre (hint: it's not Inglis).

I understand the need to make changes, but this really is one of the worst Australian teams I have seen in a very long time.
 

Front-Rower

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The more I think about it, selecting Darius Boyd at fullback makes less and less sense.

There are some absolutley fantastic fullbacks in the competition in much better form than Boyd at the moment. There's even one of them in the team - at centre (hint: it's not Inglis).

I understand the need to make changes, but this really is one of the worst Australian teams I have seen in a very long time.

Especially after his comments on NRL 360 tonight claiming State of Origin is the pinnacle of Rugby League and representing Australia is only special.
 

wests1

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Especially after his comments on NRL 360 tonight claiming State of Origin is the pinnacle of Rugby League and representing Australia is only special.

Completely agree with you mate.
I'm baffled by current Australian players saying this now that the kiwis are matching us. Soo has been a one sided affair for the past decade. At least when we've been playing the kiwis it hasn't been just another series victory from one team over the other time after time. Prior to the last decade I could understand this mentality, but not now the kiwis are more than competitive.
 

Perth Red

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Easy to say it doesn't really matter now the kiwis have overtaken the kangaroos lol.

Could you imagine nsw coach saying soo doesn't really matter as kangaroos jersey is what really matters? Our game is dog shit stupid sometimes.
 

roughyedspud

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Of the 322 players in the 14 teams that competed in the 2013 World Cup: 36% Australian / 18% NZ / 21% English. So from 14 "International Teams", 75% of all players were born in just those 3 countries. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Rugby_League_World_Cup_squads

And of the ones "born" in some of the "Home Nations", they spent less than the first year of their life there before moving to their current country. So in all honesty, the true number of "domestic players" is less than 20% for the entire player group.

The rules for the WC allow for 100% of the entire squad to be heritage players, for any nation.

The Irony: The RLIF excepts those in developing countries to grow the game, with very little if any financial support. So this means the players, coaches, administrators, who in most cases are 100% volunteers, do all the hard work at the grass roots level. They spend their own money, give up their seasons, etc. Just the same as players and coaches do in the "Big Three" at any level under NRL. They work jobs, train, play, travel, pay for hotels, car rentals, update websites, pay for advertising, operate the ticket gate on game day, wash the gear, line the fields, etc. etc. etc.

Yet there is not a single rule to protect these players, when it comes time to represent their nation in what we are told, is the greatest honor in our sport.

Minimum domestic player number MUST be added to the rules to protect those who are giving this game more than any other group of people in its international development.

There are two BIG ISSUES, with the current International Player Rules that need to be addressed:
(i) Players changing nations, or choosing nations based on heritage, mostly in sight of money. It is hard to come down on players who are making their living for doing that, BUT they should not be allowed change inside a WC cycle. And NO PLAYER should ever be allowed play for more than 2 nations. (ii) The number of domestic players selected in National teams needs to be mandated. For the game to grow outside current nations, there must be domestic competitions. The only way this happens is if there is some kind of protection for the domestic players when it comes to international games.

Personally I would like to see 51% of all SQUADS made up of domestic players. This would mean all national teams are "a majority" of domestic players. And in the WC where SQUADS are 24 players, this means 13 must be domestic and 11 can be heritage players.
It is fair to say that the 11 heritage players would be named in the 17 name team for games. If a national needs more than 11 players in a team who are heritage players, then they need to do more work on the domestic front.

This gives domestic players the opportunity to be coached, and experience the game at it's highest level, AND be rewarded by having the HONOR of representing their HOME NATION.

It also gives domestic fans, supporters, team mates, sponsors, etc. a TRUE CONNECTION with the team, by seeing faces and names they are familiar with.

And for clarity, I consider a DOMESTIC PLAYER, any player who is eligible as a Citizen or Resident based on current RLIF rules, who has registered and played a minimum of one season in his selected country.
This means eligible players from a country who have played one or more seasons in their homeland, but now playing overseas to gain experience, etc. count as domestic. International players who qualify thru "Heritage Citizenship" who have committed to at least a season in their selected country (thus helping grow the domestic game) would also be domestic players.

Yet those heritage players who reside outside of their "selected" country, and thus not directly contributed to the domestic growth of the game, would be one of the "49" percent heritage players.
They rules must protect the best domestic players in developing nations, who are not only playing for free, but in MOST cases paying to play, personally funding the development, etc. And an incentive given to Heritage players who are willing to spend a season in their "selected overseas nation" to grow the game.

Excellent post ...but wasted in this thread...give it a title and re post it in its own thread..its needs to be seen by everyone
 

ANTiLAG

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Looking at the Kiwis' squad,they are going to give the Kangas a fisting.

In the forwards, sure. But the spine is Hiku, Nikorima/Harris, Johnson and Brown/Nikorima.

That is not the fit and in form RTS, Foran, Johnson and Luke that would give Australia a fisting off the dominant forward pack with Bromwich, Taumololo, Tapau and co.
 

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