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Ron Jeremy

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album sales do not equate to quality



it was a clear case of over exaggerated sarcasm

No it doesn't, however for a rock group that is quite an achievment wouldn't you say? overrated? in your eyer perhaps, but millions of others disagree, and as i've already stated, Use your Illusion 1 is their greatest work, and there is ample of quality, skill and diversity on that album wouldn't you agree?
 

simmo1

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Use your Illusion 1&2 are quality albums

Anyone who claims Appetite is the only good Gunners album is talking out of their c**k.
 

Ron Jeremy

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Use your Illusion 1&2 are quality albums

Anyone who claims Appetite is the only good Gunners album is talking out of their c**k.

They're both brillant albums, my favourites, coma, Dont cry, Estranged, Civil War, November Rain etc.....i doubt these two have even listened to the albums :lol:
 

Stained_Class

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Ron, I didn't say they were overated. I said they are worthless. All your stats prove is that people will buy any garbage when it's marketted correctly. This is by no means a quality rock band.
 

Ron Jeremy

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No, but that doesn't matter. Ultimately it comes down to personal taste...........and Slash is a hack. :sarcasm:

I agree that it does come down to personal taste, but millions think differently from you, and as i've stated earlier, how many 'rock groups' not pop sell these numbers? not many huh? obviously they had something that others didn't wouldn't you agree?
Slash is a hack? are you serious? the guy was gunners sound, they're nothing without him, plus he is my favourite member, very underrated.
 

Ron Jeremy

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Ron, I didn't say they were overated. I said they are worthless. All your stats prove is that people will buy any garbage when it's marketted correctly. This is by no means a quality rock band.

Worthless, overrated same sh*t in my books. AFD was hardly marketed, it was going to be a flop until 9 months after it was released it started getting play on MTV.

It was marketed no differently to everyother group.
 

Stained_Class

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I agree that it does come down to personal taste, but millions think differently from you, and as i've stated earlier, how many 'rock groups' not pop sell these numbers? not many huh? obviously they had something that others didn't wouldn't you agree?
Slash is a hack? are you serious? the guy was gunners sound, they're nothing without him, plus he is my favourite member, very underrated.

Who are you comparing them to?

Underrated? That would be Brian May. Slash is as boring as bat sh*t.
 

Ron Jeremy

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Who are you comparing them to?

Underrated? That would be Brian May. Slash is as boring as bat sh*t.

Brian May is not underrated:lol:

Slash was a distinctive, articulate guitar player who if there was one guitarist for whom i'd compare him too would be May, both brillant.
 

Stained_Class

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Brian May is not underrated:lol:

Slash was a distinctive, articulate guitar player who if there was one guitarist for whom i'd compare him too would be May, both brillant.

Yes, underrated. He deserves far more acolades than he gets.

Are you just a fan of Slash? Quite frankly I haven't heard him do anything different or new to any other mediocre guitarist out there. He should never be mentioned in the same breathe as May.....or Malmsteen, Jabs, Schenker, Satriani, Roth etc.
 

Ron Jeremy

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Yes, underrated. He deserves far more acolades than he gets.

Are you just a fan of Slash? Quite frankly I haven't heard him do anything different or new to any other mediocre guitarist out there. He should never be mentioned in the same breathe as May.....or Malmsteen, Jabs, Schenker, Satriani, Roth etc.

He's not overrated, his work is well-documented.

I admire your taste with others though, love Malmsteen, Satch...

Like Eddie and Vai?
 

Ron Jeremy

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One thing i will always admire about Slash is that, whilst everyone was tapping, dive bombing etc, Slash stuck solid with his style without a period where eddie's style wa sthe focal point, and not only that Slash rose above.

His sound is what makes him a great, just like may
 

Stained_Class

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I liked Eddie years ago, circa your avatar lol. Great album. My favourite Van Halen album as it stands. Hard to do hammer-ons without sounding like Eddie. I own nothing of Steve Vai but I do have the DVD of G3 Live In Denver 2005. 3 more technically brilliant guitarists on the same stage at the same time, I've never seen. I can't help but wonder what the rythym guitarist in front of the stacks must be thinking during the final jam. What a rush!

Sorry man, but I don't rate Slash. To me he's nothing special. You obviously see something I don't.

UFOs 1979 live album Strangers In The Night features a young Michael Schenker. If at all possible have a listen and any early Malmsteen. He was with a band called Steeler with Ron Keel (KEEL) on vocals. Some great stuff from a then 17 year old Yngwie Malmsteen.
 

Ron Jeremy

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I liked Eddie years ago, circa your avatar lol. Great album. My favourite Van Halen album as it stands.

Same here, revoluntioised guitar playing, inspired millions, absolutely flawless album done in very quick succesion and low budget. 'I'm the one' and 'feel your love tonight' are my favourites.

Hard to do hammer-ons without sounding like Eddie. I own nothing of Steve Vai but I do have the DVD of G3 Live In Denver 2005. 3 more technically brilliant guitarists on the same stage at the same time, I've never seen. I can't help but wonder what the rythym guitarist in front of the stacks must be thinking during the final jam. What a rush!

lol, Eddie was my biggest influence, i play (did) use to play like him, haven't played for 2 years though, Eruption was my favourite to play naturally.

G3 would've been unreal to go too and see 3 greats live together.

Sorry man, but I don't rate Slash. To me he's nothing special. You obviously see something I don't.

Fair enough, your opinion, however i have to disagree, however i'll leave you with this, he came up with some of the best riffs in the history of guitar playing, even Eddie couldn't create riffs like sweet child o mine. Also, he was brillant at incorperating solo's to the sound of the songs, i've never heard a guitarist who was consistently able to blend solo's into melodies as brillant as he, May would be up there as well, just as good if not better.

UFOs 1979 live album Strangers In The Night features a young Michael Schenker. If at all possible have a listen and any early Malmsteen. He was with a band called Steeler with Ron Keel (KEEL) on vocals. Some great stuff from a then 17 year old Yngwie Malmsteen.


Hmmm, might have to have a look at this, Malmsteen was a great, creative, distinctive, incredbly technical, sweep picking is still the hardest f**king thing to do on the guitar.

Listen to Schenker play with Ratt at the first ever MTV unplugged, amazing duel with Warren De Martini
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=tpn7QrBblAg
 

Stained_Class

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I'm not going to keep debating the Slash issue with you Ron. We'll be going around in circles. I'll accept your opinion and leave it at that. You like him. I don't. That'll do lol.

For mine, it's Ain't Talkin' Bout Love, Ice Cream Man and Atomic Punk. Ice Cream Man kind of desribes Roth to a T. ;-)

When G3 toured last year, it was without Malmsteen. He was doing his own tour of Australia at the time and at present I can't think of who his replacement was.

Fightingirish, they're a band from the 70's and still performing. Their better days were in the 70s before Phil Mogg started having emotional breakdowns.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=J0SyKM6PDAM

From UFO you got The Scorpions and MSG (Michael Schenker Group)
 
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