Barba sacked by Cowboys

[carcharias]

Ex-aerobics instructor too apparently.

Yup
Among other shithouse things in his past.

 

[Chimp]

The players are the ones who were almost holding the NRL to ransom to be paid to be 'partners of the game' and all the other stuff that went along with it in their last CBA. The RLPA should be looked at just as much as the NRL as a governing body in these matters, IMO.

Is anyone demanding that the players, as a group through the RLPA, put their hands up and commit to a one-strike-and-you're-out policy, or turf the repeat offenders in the game, or whatever else is being asked of the NRL? Are they partners or not? The RLPA came out and issued a statement about the Barba incident afterwards, but again without any real action, it achieves very little.

If anything, the players have more of a responsibility to make sure their teammates don't f**k up than the NRL do trying to play nanny here. The teammates who want their pay to keep increasing should be the ones telling the idiots to pull their head in and leading the charge to get rid of the problems within their ranks if they don't. They would know who they are better than anyone. Tough, but more effective than anything some Corporate at NRL HQ can likely do, or seems willing to do.

Great post - completely agree. The culture change can only happen if the players as a unit 'buy in' and hold each other accountable.
The RLPA are becoming very much like a modern day Trade Union, where their number 1 priority is to defend their guys, even against the indefensible. There was a day where the TUs worked closely with their respective businesses to make the business stronger, whilst protecting workers rights at the same time. Nowadays, TU's just tend to be blockers for change and will try get people off disciplinary action on a loophole, or try get the lowest possible sanction, regardless of the offence. Gone are the days where the TU would tell a member to hand in their notice as they've been a dick, instead they'll get fight every charge.

 

[Spot On]

The players are the ones who were almost holding the NRL to ransom to be paid to be 'partners of the game' and all the other stuff that went along with it in their last CBA. The RLPA should be looked at just as much as the NRL as a governing body in these matters, IMO.

Is anyone demanding that the players, as a group through the RLPA, put their hands up and commit to a one-strike-and-you're-out policy, or turf the repeat offenders in the game, or whatever else is being asked of the NRL? Are they partners or not? The RLPA came out and issued a statement about the Barba incident afterwards, but again without any real action, it achieves very little.

If anything, the players have more of a responsibility to make sure their teammates don't f**k up than the NRL do trying to play nanny here. The teammates who want their pay to keep increasing should be the ones telling the idiots to pull their head in and leading the charge to get rid of the problems within their ranks if they don't. They would know who they are better than anyone. Tough, but more effective than anything some Corporate at NRL HQ can likely do, or seems willing to do.

The RLPA ran rings around Greenburger when the CBA was done. Gave them everything ... and more.

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Ben Sackedba

 

[Perth Red]

You’d think given 98% of players are doing the right thing the RLPA would be looking out for their best interests and be coming out hard against the 2% who are damaging the players earning potential. If you were a big company would you really want your brand to be aligned with an nrl player at this moment in time?

 

[Stephen 'Stevo' Stevenson]

The Barba signing was always going to end poorly for the Cowboys franchise.

Barba has proven that he can only behave when at quality clubs, like the Brisbane Broncos or RC Toulonnais.

 

[King hit]

He is now a truck driver in Mackay

https://www.couriermail.com.au/spor...jLs-DOdhnQF9QNubZN2rbOrNBu0JZ1Bqy_ciWcfFAqgT8

 

[Spot On]

Wifey should be happy the $$$ are still coming in.

 

[Xcalibre]

Yep, damn you Greenberg for not making decisions for an adult, perfectly capable of running his own life.

 

[Generalzod]

Yep, damn you Greenberg for not making decisions for an adult, perfectly capable of running his own life.

I thought the NRL had a duty of care for their players...

 

[Xcalibre]

I thought the NRL had a duty of care for their players...

Duty of care doesn’t = babysitters.

 

[Generalzod]

Duty of care doesn’t = babysitters.

Good point..

 

[Rhino_NQ]

Duty of care = preventing them from playing the next week after a concussion and is a chance of long term damage

Doesn't equal babysitting

 

[taipan]

If the repeat offenders Carneys, Barbas ,Lodges ,G Birds of this world ,had been turfed after episode one/two, half the crap we currently experience would be non existent.
The NRL must shoulder the blame in that respect, that means CEOs going back to Gallop.
People ask why have crowds dipped, expansion held back, sponsors reticent, junior numbers fairly static, part can be attributed to d*ckheads going wild, not once but at least twice.
We are a forgiving code, and we are getting kicked in the Nobby's nuts for being so.And the loons have taken this to their advantage, without naming names.
Time to be a socially responsible code, and bring back "capital" penalties for their pro sportsmen.No second chances.If you don't learn from the first one, you'll never learn,

 

[Timmah]

Time to be a socially responsible code, and bring back "capital" penalties for their pro sportsmen.No second chances.If you don't learn from the first one, you'll never learn,

This kind of black/white analysis or suggestion for punishment is unhelpful though. Where do you draw the line? Shoplifting? What about cases before the courts? Do you just ban someone for even being charged?

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

This kind of black/white analysis or suggestion for punishment is unhelpful though. Where do you draw the line? Shoplifting? What about cases before the courts? Do you just ban someone for even being charged?

Well mate the current system isn't doing much to deter the idiots .
In every job I've ever worked there's a list of what you don't do .
Things which will result in termination .

It's spelt out loud & clear .

I'm sure the ARLC could write a list .

 

[Timmah]

Well mate the current system isn't doing much to deter the idiots .
In every job I've ever worked there's a list of what you don't do .
Things which will result in termination .

It's spelt out loud & clear .

I'm sure the ARLC could write a list .

The ARLC aren't their employer.

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

The ARLC aren't their employer.

Yes but don't their contracts have to be lodged with them . The ARLC are in charge .
They can & should Be on top of this .

 

[taipan]

This kind of black/white analysis or suggestion for punishment is unhelpful though. Where do you draw the line? Shoplifting? What about cases before the courts? Do you just ban someone for even being charged?

I agree. it is a complicated issue fraught with legalise and Greenberg is aware of this, but the current system is doing little to solve the problem, which is costing the code a motza , financially, socially and growing the game at grassroots.The mums having the influence ,of where young Wally or Winnie should play.

Any criminal charge and that includes shoplifting ,should involve a stand down till the case is heard.The player can continue to train and be paid .The player still retains his earning capacity, and with that rule in place ,it is not suggesting a player is guilty or innocent.OK an interim ban from play, but not a ban from earning.
One wonders what sort of commitment or impact having a player play, whilst a court case hangs over his head.I'd be distracted as hell.

Surely you'd have to agree, the players I named with a long list of issues, have been given too many get out of jail free cards, and have taken no notice .

The code cannot keep going down the current track.

The ARLC are in fact now looking into legally ,what implications there are in a stand down.

 

[firechild]

Any criminal charge and that includes shoplifting ,should involve a stand down till the case is heard.The player can continue to train and be paid .The player still retains his earning capacity

I've already asked this in a different thread but haven't seen an answer. What if the player is in the final year of their contract and the case goes for 2 years? Who pays their wages then? Unless the NRL is going to foot the bill (unlikely), the player will lose their earning capacity.