Barba sacked by Cowboys

[Disinterested third party]

In the case of union and soccer, nobody knows who they are to dob them in.

 

[Spot On]

For mine Timmah, this sums up my problem with Greenberg in this instance (please take this as a response to your earlier post regarding previous CEO's as well).

I have had a problem with Greenberg ever since he was appointed CEO. My problem with him is that he has seriously built a career on bluff and bluster, its all talk, all smoke and mirrors. It all revolves around his "tough Talk" and eyeballing and has NEVER been backed up by actions. He is INCREDIBLY reactionary.

You listed some previous misdemeanours that happened during previous CEO tenures, but there have been 10 or 12 SERIOUS issues just this off season. News reported today on 66 since 2015. Greenberg has now said he has drawn a line in the sand and "enough is enough", but why now? After Barba (skeletons in the closet?). Its all talk, all rhetoric. He seeks out easy targets. Barba is a very easy target. Its DV for gods sake caught on CCTV. Easiest target in the world, but when Broncos came to him with Matt Lodge, wasnt so easy and he was found wanting. Tigers are an easy target with the Farah "salary cap" penalties meanwhile every NRL powerhouse has recently retired stars on the payroll. Andrew Webster put it succinctly....Grandstanding.

Then the latest verbal brain fart he has had is that Bulldogs "should have done more due diligence" about Dylan Napa. Is he serious? How the hell would the Bulldogs have been able to sort that out. Meanwhile the Broncos "due diligence" on Matt Lodge was what? They had CCTV of him committing crimes, US court convicting him of that crime. At the time ZERO effort (in fact evasion of) repaying the victims....but Greenberg looked him in the eyes and all was ok?

Madunit put forward the case that Greenberg has now "got tough" and drawn the line in the sand about poor behaviour and purely on the face of it, there is a case for agreeing with this but when everything is built on talk and grandstanding it is guaranteed that this house of cards will fall. There will be a conflict, or a case with a lot of grey about it, or god forbid a high profile player at a powerful club and all this talk will be exposed for what it is, hot air. In the meantime Barba will not be banned but told to look for another job (weasel words from Greenberg "He has been sacked by Cowboys and there is no contract in place") but we get to watch Tetavano, Packer, Lodge, Inglis, Wighton and countless others run around.

Timmah you and i have disagreed now in two threads about Greenbergs incompetence. I am not going to change your opinion of him nor am I seeking to, but I have explained my POV adequately and I dont see anything else worth saying (until he next says something that unfuriates me).

Yep
I find it pretty surprising anyone would even attempt to stick up for Greenmerk.
He had been absolutely atrocious in his role.
A complete cat.

Hear, hear.

 

[Timmah]

Really? Greenberg said on Tuesday that Ben Barba had been deregistered, and that he "could see no way back for him".
https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/02/05/cctv-confirms-barba-altercation/
At about 23 seconds in.

Sounds like "making a judgement" and issuing an "official edict from the NRL" to me.

I could be wrong but "his registration is no longer" simply sounds like he's saying he won't register any new contract, not necessarily that the NRL has formally deregistered him.

 

[Eion]

For mine Timmah, this sums up my problem with Greenberg in this instance (please take this as a response to your earlier post regarding previous CEO's as well).

I have had a problem with Greenberg ever since he was appointed CEO. My problem with him is that he has seriously built a career on bluff and bluster, its all talk, all smoke and mirrors. It all revolves around his "tough Talk" and eyeballing and has NEVER been backed up by actions. He is INCREDIBLY reactionary.

You listed some previous misdemeanours that happened during previous CEO tenures, but there have been 10 or 12 SERIOUS issues just this off season. News reported today on 66 since 2015. Greenberg has now said he has drawn a line in the sand and "enough is enough", but why now? After Barba (skeletons in the closet?). Its all talk, all rhetoric. He seeks out easy targets. Barba is a very easy target. Its DV for gods sake caught on CCTV. Easiest target in the world, but when Broncos came to him with Matt Lodge, wasnt so easy and he was found wanting. Tigers are an easy target with the Farah "salary cap" penalties meanwhile every NRL powerhouse has recently retired stars on the payroll. Andrew Webster put it succinctly....Grandstanding.

Then the latest verbal brain fart he has had is that Bulldogs "should have done more due diligence" about Dylan Napa. Is he serious? How the hell would the Bulldogs have been able to sort that out. Meanwhile the Broncos "due diligence" on Matt Lodge was what? They had CCTV of him committing crimes, US court convicting him of that crime. At the time ZERO effort (in fact evasion of) repaying the victims....but Greenberg looked him in the eyes and all was ok?

Madunit put forward the case that Greenberg has now "got tough" and drawn the line in the sand about poor behaviour and purely on the face of it, there is a case for agreeing with this but when everything is built on talk and grandstanding it is guaranteed that this house of cards will fall. There will be a conflict, or a case with a lot of grey about it, or god forbid a high profile player at a powerful club and all this talk will be exposed for what it is, hot air. In the meantime Barba will not be banned but told to look for another job (weasel words from Greenberg "He has been sacked by Cowboys and there is no contract in place") but we get to watch Tetavano, Packer, Lodge, Inglis, Wighton and countless others run around.

Timmah you and i have disagreed now in two threads about Greenbergs incompetence. I am not going to change your opinion of him nor am I seeking to, but I have explained my POV adequately and I dont see anything else worth saying (until he next says something that unfuriates me).

This x a billion. Guy is a paper tiger. Complete dud.

 

[Perth Red]

Can’t believe the media haven’t jumped on his “players are coming from a long way back” comment. I’ve heard CEOs say some dumb sht following this sport but to insult an entire playing group in this way is something special!

 

[Don Is Good]

At the end of the day Greenberg has to go as of now. Let’s start fresh with a no tolerance policy across the board.

 

[Spot On]

Careful Don, you'll have Todd's supporter telling you to stop pushing your agenda.

But, because your thoughts are so good we should read them again.....

 

[Spot On]

At the end of the day Greenberg has to go as of now. Let’s start fresh with a no tolerance policy across the board.

Da bomb. Well said.

 

[Chimp]

Da bomb. Well said.

Agreed - would seem the most sensible way forward.

New leader, settting a line in the sand.

 

[Exsilium]

There will always be more superstars. We don't need to be scraping the barrel when it comes to the next marketable player. If you bring the game into disrepute, no worries, dont be part of it.

Plenty of kids who miss out when guys like Barba more than one chance to come good.

 

[Ron's_Mate]

Jeff Bezos must be glad he's not an NRL player, otherwise he'd have Greenberg eyeballing him across his line in the sand.

 

[Dodgy]

Idk if it's been brought up, as I haven't fully read the thread. But listening to Macquarie sports radio this morning, it was brought up that Barba's wife doesn't want him suspended because they need his income.

Mieke Buchan couldn't believe it, but it is a very real problem for Barba's wife to deal with. Most people seem to be more interested pontificating and the image of the nrl.

Earning less money means that it's more likely to stick with Barba and cop further DV because there's no other option.

 

[Don Is Good]

Idk if it's been brought up, as I haven't fully read the thread. But listening to Macquarie sports radio this morning, it was brought up that Barba's wife doesn't want him suspended because they need his income.

Mieke Buchan couldn't believe it, but it is a very real problem for Barba's wife to deal with. Most people seem to be more interested pontificating and the image of the nrl.

Earning less money means that it's more likely to stick with Barba and cop further DV because there's no other option.

The financial situation would be a real worry for Ben. I played footy with his older brother in Mackay, Ben isn’t all that bright.

 

[Spot On]

Idk if it's been brought up, as I haven't fully read the thread. But listening to Macquarie sports radio this morning, it was brought up that Barba's wife doesn't want him suspended because they need his income.

Mieke Buchan couldn't believe it, but it is a very real problem for Barba's wife to deal with. Most people seem to be more interested pontificating and the image of the nrl.

Earning less money means that it's more likely to stick with Barba and cop further DV because there's no other option.

She has already done that. Stuck with Barba and he HAS been earning plus still putting up with DV.

Your concerns are just excuses so it would seem.

As for the image of the NRL, Barba has continually pissed on it, been brought back into the fold and pissed on it again. He doesn't care and has proven that time and again. It is now time for the NRL to protect its brand by shutting out people who tarnish the game's name/ brand like that. It should have been done years ago.

 

[Dodgy]

She has already done that. Stuck with Barba and he HAS been earning plus still putting up with DV.

Your concerns are just excuses so it would seem.

As for the image of the NRL, Barba has continually pissed on it, been brought back into the fold and pissed on it again. He doesn't care and has proven that time and again. It is now time for the NRL to protect its brand by shutting out people who tarnish the game's name/ brand like that. It should have been done years ago.

I've not making excuses.

DV violence is a complicated issue. It seems as though Barba has a tendency to behave this way, and that he would do so whether or not he was a RL player. A lot of people (on various forums and media) are making it about RL when it's got nothing to do with RL.

 

[Perth Red]

I've not making excuses.

DV violence is a complicated issue. It seems as though Barba has a tendency to behave this way, and that he would do so whether or not he was a RL player. A lot of people (on various forums and media) are making it about RL when it's got nothing to do with RL.

That’s not the ‘nrls responsibility. It was bens and he has screwed himself and his family, Sad for the woman but she should have dumped him first time he lifted his hand to her. Nrl’s only responsility is to protect its brand.

 

[Miller was a legend]

Can’t believe the media haven’t jumped on his “players are coming from a long way back” comment. I’ve heard CEOs say some dumb sht following this sport but to insult an entire playing group in this way is something special!

100%. Even if it is true (which I’d agree it is), the NRL CEO is a dope saying it publicly

 

[Cowbees]

The players are the ones who were almost holding the NRL to ransom to be paid to be 'partners of the game' and all the other stuff that went along with it in their last CBA. The RLPA should be looked at just as much as the NRL as a governing body in these matters, IMO.

Is anyone demanding that the players, as a group through the RLPA, put their hands up and commit to a one-strike-and-you're-out policy, or turf the repeat offenders in the game, or whatever else is being asked of the NRL? Are they partners or not? The RLPA came out and issued a statement about the Barba incident afterwards, but again without any real action, it achieves very little.

If anything, the players have more of a responsibility to make sure their teammates don't f**k up than the NRL do trying to play nanny here. The teammates who want their pay to keep increasing should be the ones telling the idiots to pull their head in and leading the charge to get rid of the problems within their ranks if they don't. They would know who they are better than anyone. Tough, but more effective than anything some Corporate at NRL HQ can likely do, or seems willing to do.

 

[carcharias]

100%. Even if it is true (which I’d agree it is), the NRL CEO is a dope saying it publicly

He is a dope.

 

[AJB1102]

He is a dope.

Ex-aerobics instructor too apparently.