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Barry Hall Incident

meltiger

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waltzing Meninga said:
There is no evidence at all that Hall hit Maguire. You can not ditermine the nature of the incident by the reaction of the player. For Hall to be guilty there needs to be evidence and footage of Hall striking Macguire. There is no such evidence. He may well have hit him, who knows, but there is no evidence. If there was a camera angle it may have shown that Hall missed with his punch.

A court would laugh at this case if it were taken there, as there is absolutley no evidence at all based on the available camera angles that Hall struck Macguire or to the extent of the blow.

How can the tribunal grade the incident without seeing the contact???

My god.

Dead seat, take the blinkers off.
 

meltiger

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fat_mike said:
mick molloy just reported barry hall was given 2 weeks.

http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=230106


A victory for common sense (I though Gaspar's was worth more than a week though) ... Let's see if the Swans heirachy now accept it & let everyone get on with enjoying GF week. Unlike in the past.


Some are saying he needs to argue it down to 'Negligent' - Negligent implies no intent - I fail to see how he could possibly argue there was no intent.
 
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meltiger said:
My god.

Dead seat, take the blinkers off.

How have I got the blinkers on. I am just stating the facts that the court would look at in this case.

Hall will play this weekend despite the 2 weeks given by the tribunal. They will take legal action like in 1996 and justice will prevail
 

meltiger

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waltzing Meninga said:
How have I got the blinkers on. I am just stating the facts that the court would look at in this case.

Hall will play this weekend despite the 2 weeks given by the tribunal. They will take legal action like in 1996 and justice will prevail

If they take this track, they will prove once and for all why they should not be propped up by the AFL $$ any longer, they can hand back their salary cap concessions and be treated exactly the same as every other club in the comp.

Collingwood of all clubs took it's medicince with Rocca and Cloke and didn't walk into court. Richmond players have missed GF's due to suspensions ... In fact 30, over the history of the comp have missed GF's.

Why should Sydney and their players, be any different to all those other players like Neville Crowe who have missed GF's.
 
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meltiger said:
If they take this track, they will prove once and for all why they should not be propped up by the AFL $$ any longer, they can hand back their salary cap concessions and be treated exactly the same as every other club in the comp.

Collingwood of all clubs took it's medicince with Rocca and Cloke and didn't walk into court. Richmond players have missed GF's due to suspensions ... In fact 30, over the history of the comp have missed GF's.

Why should Sydney and their players, be any different to all those other players like Neville Crowe who have missed GF's.

In the case of Anthony Rocca and James Cloak, there was evidence of contact, i.e you could see the point of contact. How on earth did the tribunal come up with 2 weeks when they didn't even see the contact. Just anti NSW wankers on the tribunal. There is absolutley no way to ditermine a grading wtihout seeing the contact.

Take it to court sydney and win the flag. Something Richmond won't do for another 50 years
 
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meltiger said:
Some are saying he needs to argue it down to 'Negligent' - Negligent implies no intent - I fail to see how he could possibly argue there was no intent.

I think they'll go in with the defence of arguing it was negligent and in play - if they get either one of those accepted, it becomes a 5 point charge and, with a guilty plea, does not attract a suspension.
 

lockyno1

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Hall will play that is almost guaranteed! That is a level 1 not a level 2! Stewart Lowe will get him off!:D
 

lockyno1

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Charlie Saab said:
Hall shouldnt play going by the rules of the AFL.

He will though! Either get off on Wednesday or take it to court and get an injunction either way he will play! FFS MacGuire took the biggest Hollywood the game has ever seen!
 

lockyno1

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waltzing Meninga said:
I don't understand this. How can he be found guilty??? There is absolutley no evidence at all that he even made contact!!!!


FFS

Don't worry he will get off, sanity will prevail!
 

RainMan

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All they need to do is ask the player that Hall 'touched', why did you drop like a sack of potatoes.

Pansiest sport ever.
 
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Exactly, for all we know he could have been trying to milk a free kick!!! Unless there is physical evidence of force on the players stomach then there is no way to ditermine how much force was used or if there was any force at all!! No one saw the contact, all we saw was macguire take a dive. How can the AFL ditermine a grading with out seeing the contact??


Just shows thatthe AFL Tribunal is even more of a farce than the Rugby League one.
 

camsmith

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Its the Review committee not the Tribunal thats messed up, but yeh, its a joke... although the NRL one isnt much better.
 

meltiger

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waltzing Meninga said:
Exactly, for all we know he could have been trying to milk a free kick!!! Unless there is physical evidence of force on the players stomach then there is no way to ditermine how much force was used or if there was any force at all!! No one saw the contact, all we saw was macguire take a dive. How can the AFL ditermine a grading with out seeing the contact??


Just shows thatthe AFL Tribunal is even more of a farce than the Rugby League one.

So there is no proof of contact, no evidence of the force of the so called non-existant contact .... Make up your minds.


Regardless what one may think of the potential for him to be suspended (Given the way I am carrying on, you would be suprised at what I think of this being a suspendable offence) .... Players have been suspended for this exact infringement this year.

Just because millions of bandwagon jumping scummers from up north think he should play doesn't change the fact players have gone for it this year already.
 
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meltiger said:
So there is no proof of contact, no evidence of the force of the so called non-existant contact .... Make up your minds.


Regardless what one may think of the potential for him to be suspended (Given the way I am carrying on, you would be suprised at what I think of this being a suspendable offence) .... Players have been suspended for this exact infringement this year.

Just because millions of bandwagon jumping scummers from up north think he should play doesn't change the fact players have gone for it this year already.

What about Chris Judd on Brady Rawlings earlier this year??? Exact same offence and Judd didn't get suspended.

Anyway, what will happen from here is that They will put together video footage of other incidents this year that went unpunished like Chris Judds. If then unsucsessfull they will go to the high court of Australia, which will not see the case before the GF so the AFL will have no option but to let him play or risk facing a massive massive compensation pay out if they find Barry is aloud to play.
 

Twizzle

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pretty stupid move in the first place, what was he ever going to gain, it was hardly intimidating
 

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