Bathurst thread

[The Colonel]

haha murphy couldn't keep going to the left cause ambrose took HIS room. in hindsight he should have bowed down to ambrose and in hindsight ambrose should have gave murphy room as he had not completed the pass.

Thankfully hrundi can bring some sense into it. If your old enough to drive take a trip around Mt Panorama one day and comeback and tell me on that very corner where Ambrose could have moved out without punting himself into the wall. Murphy is at fault.

 

[da_sharks]

unfortunate for ambrose. two consecutive championships (three, maybe) and hasn't got himself a bathurst trophy yet. he will be back. im sure of it.

i believe murphy was at fault, even though the rules have changed to suit his side of the story regarding race space and right of way, but i don't think he wanted to cause that much grief to ambrose, or himself in the first place.

for the fact ambrose got black flagged is absolute bulls*t.

two years ago at adelaide, skaife was done without a balaclava and he got away with it.

why was there an official waiting at the stone bros pit crew in the first place?

the offical was standing there when luff pulled up and he followed luff back into the back room after they swapped around. and to give him a black flag and then make him stop to put one on himself was a joke. then he stopped for fuel, after a few laps, got back to fifth. thats when the safety car came out and the disaster with murphy happened.

i think that 90% of the officials are holden fans. i also think mark sakife and his mob (tom walkinshaw) have alot to do with these officials too.

i believe they were threatened, so they used every dirty trick in the book (like the past six years) to get the stone bros out of contention. since 98 when they seen what sort of potential the stone had by winng bathurst then.

it has all got to do with publicity and manufacturers and sponsorships when it comes to bathurst. thats why people get brainwashed to think that bathurst is like the grand final or the only race that happens at the end of every year. when it was shown by channel 7, bathurst was the only race that 7 showed coverage of every year, but since it came to 10, every race is being covered by channel 10. so it doesnt have anything to do with publicity anymore.

it is a big race, and it has some history to it (bob jane, peter brock etc...) but as long as the stone and ford continue to dominate the championship every year, im happy. the only reason i want ford to win bathurst (and believe me it does hurt inside...) is to take all bragging rights over from holden. that is the only thing that holden have got going for them at the moment.

but the truth is that the real championship is being dominated by the real manufacturer.

 

[Saint 60]

Yeah i reckon Murphy was in the wrong...he was passed, he should of given way -
he missed a gear or spun the corner before....he didnt slow down and kept going, thus the prang...hell i could do that lol

Going to be an interesting last couple of races ---

interesting that the Stone brothers worked for Dick Johnson for years...since theyve left Dicks team - Dick hasnt done much...about 5 years....

 

[hrundi99]

for the fact ambrose got black flagged is absolute bulls*t.

two years ago at adelaide, skaife was done without a balaclava and he got away with it.

why was there an official waiting at the stone bros pit crew in the first place?

the offical was standing there when luff pulled up and he followed luff back into the back room after they swapped around. and to give him a black flag and then make him stop to put one on himself was a joke. then he stopped for fuel, after a few laps, got back to fifth. thats when the safety car came out and the disaster with murphy happened.

i think that 90% of the officials are holden fans. i also think mark sakife and his mob (tom walkinshaw) have alot to do with these officials too.

i believe they were threatened, so they used every dirty trick in the book (like the past six years) to get the stone bros out of contention. since 98 when they seen what sort of potential the stone had by winng bathurst then.

That's a bit harsh.

I think they should enforce the balaclava issue. It's a fundamentally important safety matter, and the entire field should be checked before each race starts.

 

[douglasallen91]

As a Ford man it's not the lack of winning at Bathurst

what is the record 2 wins in the last 16 bathursts.

 

[da_sharks]

That's a bit harsh.

I think they should enforce the balaclava issue. It's a fundamentally important safety matter, and the entire field should be checked before each race starts.

yeah. cut me up a bit to say that. in honest truth, if it wasn't a ford, it would be a holden. there is nothing like a 5 litre block motor. beats any of the jap crap thats going around, they might be quicker cars, but not from horse power. they need gases and boosters to speed their cars up...

the racers had what they called a gentlemen's agreement where the rules say that you are required to wear one, but the drivers had a choice to wear one or not due to the overwhelming temperatures in the cars. this has been going on for e few years now and hasn't been mentioned until bathurst this year.

the fact is, is that they know they were in the wrong (you heard ross stone commenting about how thats life and they had to live with it), thats why this isnt going any further and (funny enough) you don't hear it mentioned anywhere.

but the fact that someone (not mentioning names this time) in that field of racers, was threatened by the postion that ambrose was in after luff came out of the car, would have had something to do with the official standing at the stone bros crew and out of all things to spot, the balaclava which is barely visible in most cases.

luff had only dropped two positions out of the 60 or so laps he needed to finish, which was more than what ambrose needed to finish off the race. the only other car which was matching ambrose was murphy which was back in the line at that time of the race. todd kelly was doing high 2:10s where ambrose and murphy were doing low 2:09s. even skafe was struggling to make 2:09s when he was out there.

im not trying to make up some conspiracy theory or anything, but i strongly believe that there was a 2nd party which had something to do with bringing up the balaclava rule for them to look at.

as long as ford dominate the championship, there will be time for us to conquer the mountain.... again.

lets hope we can make a ford 1-2-3 finish at the end of the year with loundes, ambrose and ingall.

 

[da_sharks]

what is the record 2 wins in the last 16 bathursts.

if you want to talk about stats, lets not forget the overall wins (ford 23 - holden 27), so holden don't have that much of a gap which should get smaller in due time.

it took holden 32 years to catch up to ford, and it only took ford 10(+ another ten due to not making them) years to get back on top. don't forget ford had stopped manufacturing V8 vehicles between 82' to 92', but i counted those years as well because it was ford's (idiotic) choice to do that.