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Bell heads to UK.

Rich102

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Warriors Recruitment boss Dean Bell flies out to the United Kingdom today on a three-week mission aimed at building closer ties with English league stars, their clubs and agents.
The Wigan legend and inaugural Warriors captain, who now heads the New Zealand club's recruitment strategy, insists he has no intention of using the trip as a chance to negotiate any potential signings for next season.
But during the next month, Bell will attend "about a dozen" Super League games and meet with leading player agents in a bid to ensure that, down the track, the Warriors are given chances to sign the best young British talent coming through the ranks.
"It's an opportunity to build good relationships with the leading player agents over there so that when the top UK players do come on the market, that we are better positioned," Bell said.
"Another reason is just for me to watch the games."
The last time the Warriors made any high-profile English signings was back in 1995, when Great Britain internationals Andy Platt and Denis Betts were lured on big contracts to New Zealand.
Across the Tasman, however, the recruitment of Super League players has shown no signs of abating, with the likes of Gareth Ellis, Sam Burgess and James Graham all plying their trade in the NRL.
Bell says the Warriors are pleased with how their 2013 squad is shaping up. He concedes any additional big-name signings for next year, hot on the heels of last week's announcement that Melbourne Storm centre Dane Nielsen is bound for Auckland, are unlikely.
"We are pretty happy with our 2013 squad. You never say never, but it's almost complete," he said.
"Our young players are getting better as well as a couple of imports that we are bringing in.
"I'm certainly not targeting anybody in particular.
"We won't get many players from over there because we are going to produce our own – that's where most of our players are going to come from, our development system.
"But if we are running our organisation's recruitment properly, we need to be aware of everybody out there and that they see the Warriors as an option.
"If another Sam Burgess, another Adrian Morley or another Gareth Ellis is out there, we want to make sure we are better positioned, if we need him, to bring him to the Warriors."
The move by the Warriors to broaden their horizons and develop closer ties to the English Super League has been applauded by former Kiwis coach and leading player agent Frank Endacott. He boasts a spate of English players on his books and says the Warriors will be well served by casting their recruitment net wider than just New Zealand and Australia.
"What I'd say about the Warriors or any other club looking at English players is that it's a good time right now to get English players.
"The reason being is that the offshore tax incentives for overseas players aren't there anymore and the exchange rate favours playing over here now.
"There's every reason for English players wanting to come over.
"I applaud the Warriors for looking because they might just come up with the one player they need for a certain position." Bell says he will also use his time in England to float the idea of the Warriors taking on English clubs in pre-season fixtures.
"It's also a chance to probably look at the opportunity, maybe in the future, of having a pre-season game against Wigan or Leeds or a club like that," he said.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/6952890/Bell-heads-to-check-out-Super-League-talent
 

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"We are pretty happy with our 2013 squad. You never say never, but it's almost complete," he said.
"Our young players are getting better as well as a couple of imports that we are bringing in.

a couple? Nielsen and...?
I did read we are interested in an 18 year old second rower from some team, I forget who.

Edit: TL I guess...
 

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Seems a bit weird when our homegrown talent is booming more than ever. For once we hardly need to worry about imports.
 

hitman82

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Seems a bit weird when our homegrown talent is booming more than ever. For once we hardly need to worry about imports.

I agree in the sense that I wouldn't expect us to be signing any "developing" players. But with a squad as inexperienced as ours, it's a good thing to keep our options open to signing more mid-career players of high quality. There's every chance we may sign noone, but hey if we ended up with an Ellis or a Morley I certainly wouldn't complain.

That big England winger would be my ideal UK signing.

EDIT: Ryan Hall. AMAZING player
 
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Fast Eddie

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I doubt we'd be able to sign any top English players anyway, if they decide they want to come to the NRL then they will go to Sydney.
 

Penrose Warrior

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I doubt we'd be able to sign any top English players anyway, if they decide they want to come to the NRL then they will go to Sydney.

Why? They could conceivably earn more here. No reason they'd go to Sydney - in fact we'd be more chance of landing a UK player in theory rather than an Aussie, as they're coming all this way and Australia/NZ means little difference in terms of homesickness.
 

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Why? They could conceivably earn more here. No reason they'd go to Sydney - in fact we'd be more chance of landing a UK player in theory rather than an Aussie, as they're coming all this way and Australia/NZ means little difference in terms of homesickness.

Beyond the coin and competition experience, your UK player will also weigh up other experiences. Like it or not many will consider us a backwater.
 

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Because the majority of Rugby League players would rather live in Sydney than Auckland for lifestyle and experience, and then of course it also means you don't have to travel to Australia every second week to play. It's no surprise that the last 3 top English players to come out here have all gone to Sydney clubs.
 

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I saw Dean Bell the other day at this chinese restaurant over in Botany..... he was eating with Jerry SeuSeu and some other guy... dim sum!
 

Penrose Warrior

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Beyond the coin and competition experience, your UK player will also weigh up other experiences. Like it or not many will consider us a backwater.

Haha, most UK league players live in the north. I don't know if you've been there, but it's hardly Club Med. I don't know if I agree. Yes, some would - ie the Burgess brothers - but others wouldn't.

Botany, beautiful part of the world. Bathed in sunshine today.
 

Lee 2012

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cant say ive been impressed with his work to date, for starters maloney is leaving and he signs leuluai as his replacement, clearly leuluai aint even close to being in the same league as maloney.

Then inu leaves to go to the dogs yet the warriors are still going to pay part of his wages till the end of the year, lol! and we also now have no centre backup unless we go back to playing second rowers in the centres which we all know didnt work overly well.

Then they tell ukuma that he is no longer wanted, how about actually getting rid of some of the dead wood first like steve rapira who realistically i cant see playing in top grade again unless we have some serious injuries.
 

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cant say ive been impressed with his work to date, for starters maloney is leaving and he signs leuluai as his replacement, clearly leuluai aint even close to being in the same league as maloney.

Then inu leaves to go to the dogs yet the warriors are still going to pay part of his wages till the end of the year, lol! and we also now have no centre backup unless we go back to playing second rowers in the centres which we all know didnt work overly well.

Then they tell ukuma that he is no longer wanted, how about actually getting rid of some of the dead wood first like steve rapira who realistically i cant see playing in top grade again unless we have some serious injuries.

Welcome Lee. The part about the Warriors paying his wages is in dispute. Can you provide a source for this?
 

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clearly leuluai aint even close to being in the same league as maloney.

Yeah, clearly :?

After all, Leuluai has played 30 tests for the Kiwis in an international career spanning 9 years while Maloney......was almost in the frame for City v Country in the minds of his more enthusiastic fans?
 

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Lee. Maloney wasn't going to stay, unless they offered him $600k. He's just had a kid, he wants to get back to his family in Sydney. He wanted to get out last year and asked for a release but was denied.
 

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Welcome Lee. The part about the Warriors paying his wages is in dispute. Can you provide a source for this?

It's smart management. You see, if we are running thin on the ground come the finals we can ask for Inu back!

Seriously, I doubt we're paying part of Inu's wages. If we were then we may as well keep him around Penrose. Unless of course he really was toxic but I doubt it, he seems a nice bloke off the field.

The chicks dug him too. Perhaps that's really Bluey's problem?
 

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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10808719

It was not an ideal situation for the Warriors, who could yet get caught short in the backline with 13 regular season games ahead of them. This was discussed at Mt Smart headquarters before eventually the release was rubber-stamped by Brian McClennan. The terms of the deal are undisclosed, but it is believed that the Warriors will continue to pay a portion (described as minimal) of his wages for the rest of this season, before the full Bulldogs contract kicks in in 2013. He was understood to be one of the bigger earners at the Auckland club - on between $200,000-$300,000. Though the Sydney club has money to spend, with numerous players off contract at the end of this season, Inu has probably taken a pay cut in the search for regular first grade football.

Whether Michael Burgess is to be trusted is another story altogether, but there you have it. Michael Brown, a guy who has covered them longer, said in the Weekend Herald:

The Warriors get a player who was earning more than $200,000 a season off their books and Inu gets a fresh start because it's debatable he would have got many more at the Warriors.


And Scurrah said on LiveSport (so I'm told) that we had washed our hands completely of his salary.
 

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