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Ben Hunt

muzby

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He is supposed to be making a difference and taking ownership as that was the reasoning behind buying him so as to relieve the pressure off Widdop.
Now people posting how good it is that Norman takes the pressure off Hunt.
Do you not realise that in both instances the pressure is removed due to having two genuine halves instead of one?

Seriously.....
 

Old Timer

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Do you not realise that in both instances the pressure is removed due to having two genuine halves instead of one?

Seriously.....
So you think our halves play with no pressure on them?

Seriously

You have little idea of how to interpret what people post let alone comprehend it.
 

Brutalitops

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Hunts fragility was on show for all to see when he dropped that ball in the gf against the cows then that kick in origin last year then the rumors started swirling about him not settling into life on the gong then his mrs went into bat for him it appears as though he does carry the burden a bit when he needs overcome it all the chat about his salary too was always simmering in the background
The rumours last year were all bullshit. What happened was his wife suffered a miscarriage about 8 weeks into the season (right before Origin) and obviously that's gonna affect anyone

That changed my view of his "mental toughness" people go on about. To play the whole season with people unfairly shitting on him from all angles, never revealing this happened until the season was over, when he very easily could have been justified in taking time off from footy and getting away from it all.
 

getsmarty

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The rumours last year were all bullshit. What happened was his wife suffered a miscarriage about 8 weeks into the season (right before Origin) and obviously that's gonna affect anyone

That changed my view of his "mental toughness" people go on about. To play the whole season with people unfairly shitting on him from all angles, never revealing this happened until the season was over, when he very easily could have been justified in taking time off from footy and getting away from it all.


Well said....The press have unfairly made him into their whipping boy.....plenty of other halves who are much worse on similar money.
 

muzby

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So you think our halves play with no pressure on them?

Seriously

You have little idea of how to interpret what people post let alone comprehend it.
There’s no problem with comprehension, you’re just letting your Huntred (Hunt hatred) cloud your ability to understand how football is played..

Do you not realise that having two specialist halves (instead of one specialist and one makeshift) will make it easier as there are two to direct the team instead of one..?

Think about it..
 

Brutalitops

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I don't think Hunt is any more overpaid than any half in the competition. Other than the obvious candidate in Cronk

Starting with the new raised cap last year, a million is what any above average half is going to cost. And that's only going to go up

Ash Taylor, Anthony Milford, Nathan Cleary, Cameron Munster, Daly Cherry Evans, Michael Morgan, Mitchell Pearce, soon to be Latrell Mitchell, Kieran Foran, Matt Moylan, Luke Brooks, Gareth Widdop, Mitchell Moses, Cooper Cronk.

All halves who are on either a million or not terribly far off. Just about every team is paying 800k or more for at least one half. It's is simply the nature of the halves market right now. With that in mind I'm pretty happy with Ben Hunt as our 7.

Fullback is next. Tedesco and Ponga have raised that market to be alongside the halves in terms of price. The cap going up again is going to make things very interesting
 

blacksafake

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5 metres cant happen cause too much wrestle and time in the ruck. Front rowers will have to get back 20 and steam on to it to make any metres. I played in the 5 metre era and the only way 5 metre could work is they have to get off the tackle immediately once momentum halted or hits the ground..but bring back the penalty for thse involuntary tackles throwing yourself on the ground.
I say go in between 7-8 metres with the ruck sped up a bit as a 1st step.
Refs do not call held early enough...they intice injuries to a point with surrenders and allowing them to wrestle standing up before calling held..even when they do call.held or get off..often the players still put them to ground or fall over making it look like they lost balance or have no choice or a player throws an offload 3 secs after his momentum has stopped. It is a joke ATM and gain the refs to a blind eye. They wonder why their is crushers etc..that is why. Momentum stopped no more offload no more tackle.. HELD loud and clear, penalty for non compliance simple
My 2 gripes are the bloody wrestle & the voluntary tackle. I too played in the 5 metre rule & you’re right it’s most probably more appropriate to go 7-8 metres.
It’s imperative that should this happen the wrestle needs to go in conjunction. Better still just pi55 the wrestle off.
If they don’t want to penalise the voluntary tackle maybe the defence should be allowed to drag them back into goal or over the sidelines.
 

BLM01

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I don't think Hunt is any more overpaid than any half in the competition. Other than the obvious candidate in Cronk

Starting with the new raised cap last year, a million is what any above average half is going to cost. And that's only going to go up

Ash Taylor, Anthony Milford, Nathan Cleary, Cameron Munster, Daly Cherry Evans, Michael Morgan, Mitchell Pearce, soon to be Latrell Mitchell, Kieran Foran, Matt Moylan, Luke Brooks, Gareth Widdop, Mitchell Moses, Cooper Cronk.

All halves who are on either a million or not terribly far off. Just about every team is paying 800k or more for at least one half. It's is simply the nature of the halves market right now. With that in mind I'm pretty happy with Ben Hunt as our 7.

Fullback is next. Tedesco and Ponga have raised that market to be alongside the halves in terms of price. The cap going up again is going to make things very interesting
Geez if you right how do Sharks fit their roster under the cap. They have Johnson, Moylan, Dugan (800K +). Fifita knocked bag 800K at the Dogs (abt 650-700), Gal, JMoz, Prior, Wade Graham. How do they fit 30?
 

Brutalitops

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Geez if you right how do Sharks fit their roster under the cap. They have Johnson, Moylan, Dugan (800K +). Fifita knocked bag 800K at the Dogs (abt 650-700), Gal, JMoz, Prior, Wade Graham. How do they fit 30?
Yep I forgot about Johnson actually

They spend very little on their wingers and bench/forwards I would say. Jmoz and Prior surely wouldn't be on much, and Gal has his long service discount or whatever it is

Bet they're spewing with Dugan taking up 800 though
 

BLM01

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Yep I forgot about Johnson actually

They spend very little on their wingers and bench/forwards I would say. Jmoz and Prior surely wouldn't be on much, and Gal has his long service discount or whatever it is

Bet they're spewing with Dugan taking up 800 though
JMoz and Prior are origin players..it means $$$
 

Old Timer

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There’s no problem with comprehension, you’re just letting your Huntred (Hunt hatred) cloud your ability to understand how football is played..

Do you not realise that having two specialist halves (instead of one specialist and one makeshift) will make it easier as there are two to direct the team instead of one..?

Think about it..
Let me assist you with a few things.
Your previous statement
"Do you not realise that in both instances the pressure is removed due to having two genuine halves instead of one?"
Because you start with "Do you not realise" doesn't mean that what you think is therefore correct. Your realisation is correct for you but not necessarily correct for any other person, do you not realise that?
Hunt's purchase was heralded as that of a man to lead the team and let Widdop (or anyone else for that matter) play his natural game.
If Hunt is that man why the f**k do we need 2 players to direct the team, isn't that exactly the hole we dug for ourselves when Benji was at the club or perhaps you might say he was not a specialist in the halves?
Hunt drifts in and out of matches and very rarely takes the game by the short & curly's (I wish to god that he did) and in fact he creates pressure on himself with dumb plays or decisions.
You keep insisting that I hate him which is incorrect, I actually have said many times he is a definite upgrade on previous halves but I do not agree with the sentiment relating to him being the game changing half that will make all the difference for us as a team but you fail to be able to comprehend or interpret what that means.
So in simple speak just for you, Hunt IMO does not deliver what it was said that he would deliver. So my statement is not to ridicule him as a player it is calling out the stupidity of what was said about that which he would bring to the club.
Are we better off for halving him compared to what we had before absolutely, does he deliver on the assurances that we were given when we signed him, he does not.
Even if our forwards are going shit you would still expect the half to get the kicking game right and stop giving up 7 tackle sets and kicking down the throat of attacking weapons on the opposition side.
 
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The rumours last year were all bullshit. What happened was his wife suffered a miscarriage about 8 weeks into the season (right before Origin) and obviously that's gonna affect anyone

That changed my view of his "mental toughness" people go on about. To play the whole season with people unfairly shitting on him from all angles, never revealing this happened until the season was over, when he very easily could have been justified in taking time off from footy and getting away from it all.
Fair enough I admit I never knew about the miscarriage as that puts a huge strain on you behind the scenes I know my wife had three of them over the journey one being a still born at six months what would’ve been my only son so yea that stuff can put a huge load emotionally
 

muzby

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Let me assist you with a few things.
Your previous statement
"Do you not realise that in both instances the pressure is removed due to having two genuine halves instead of one?"
Because you start with "Do you not realise" doesn't mean that what you think is therefore correct. Your realisation is correct for you but not necessarily correct for any other person, do you not realise that?
Hunt's purchase was heralded as that of a man to lead the team and let Widdop (or anyone else for that matter) play his natural game.
If Hunt is that man why the f**k do we need 2 players to direct the team, isn't that exactly the hole we dug for ourselves when Benji was at the club or perhaps you might say he was not a specialist in the halves?
Hunt drifts in and out of matches and very rarely takes the game by the short & curly's (I wish to god that he did) and in fact he creates pressure on himself with dumb plays or decisions.
You keep insisting that I hate him which is incorrect, I actually have said many times he is a definite upgrade on previous halves but I do not agree with the sentiment relating to him being the game changing half that will make all the difference for us as a team but you fail to be able to comprehend or interpret what that means.
So in simple speak just for you, Hunt IMO does not deliver what it was said that he would deliver. So my statement is not to ridicule him as a player it is calling out the stupidity of what was said about that which he would bring to the club.
Are we better off for halving him compared to what we had before absolutely, does he deliver on the assurances that we were given when we signed him, he does not.
Even if our forwards are going shit you would still expect the half to get the kicking game right and stop giving up 7 tackle sets and kicking down the throat of attacking weapons on the opposition side.
Hmmm... I’m guessing you are struggling with football concepts at the moment, so let me tell story..

One day there was a man pushing a car..

The man, let’s call him Gareth, was annoyed.. It was his boss’s car, and his boss was a bit of a dunce who had put diesel fuel in an unleaded car..

Gareth was making progress, but it was slow.. A few people stopped along the way to assist, but they didn’t offer much in the way of help..

But then along came a man on a horse.. Let’s call him Ben.. Ben jumped off the horse and started to help Gareth push..

Together, Ben & Gareth were able to push the car further and faster..

Gareth started getting a sore shoulder, so sat on the side of the road to have a rest..

Ben continued to push the car by himself, he still made progress but it was a bit slower as he had to do the work of two men..

Just then an old man on a motorised scooter rode past and yelled at Ben, saying he was useless because the car wasn’t being pushed along at the same speed as when both Gareth & Ben were pushing it..

Ben just smiled as the old man had forgotten to wear pants..

Suddenly some techno music could be heard, and a party bus pulled up.. A man, let’s call him Corey, dances off the bus and comes over to help Ben push the car..

Together they started making progress, pushing the car faster than Ben could when he was alone.

But the old man rode past again, this time yelling at Ben that he was lazy because he couldn’t push the car by himself..

But Ben just smiled as the old man rode straight into a puddle, whilst Ben & Corey continued to push the car faster together..

The End


Ps. You may be wondering what happened to the horse. It went back to Brisbane where it was eaten by a Bird.
 

Old Timer

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Hmmm... I’m guessing you are struggling with football concepts at the moment, so let me tell story..

One day there was a man pushing a car..

The man, let’s call him Gareth, was annoyed.. It was his boss’s car, and his boss was a bit of a dunce who had put diesel fuel in an unleaded car..

Gareth was making progress, but it was slow.. A few people stopped along the way to assist, but they didn’t offer much in the way of help..

But then along came a man on a horse.. Let’s call him Ben.. Ben jumped off the horse and started to help Gareth push..

Together, Ben & Gareth were able to push the car further and faster..

Gareth started getting a sore shoulder, so sat on the side of the road to have a rest..

Ben continued to push the car by himself, he still made progress but it was a bit slower as he had to do the work of two men..

Just then an old man on a motorised scooter rode past and yelled at Ben, saying he was useless because the car wasn’t being pushed along at the same speed as when both Gareth & Ben were pushing it..

Ben just smiled as the old man had forgotten to wear pants..

Suddenly some techno music could be heard, and a party bus pulled up.. A man, let’s call him Corey, dances off the bus and comes over to help Ben push the car..

Together they started making progress, pushing the car faster than Ben could when he was alone.

But the old man rode past again, this time yelling at Ben that he was lazy because he couldn’t push the car by himself..

But Ben just smiled as the old man rode straight into a puddle, whilst Ben & Corey continued to push the car faster together..

The End


Ps. You may be wondering what happened to the horse. It went back to Brisbane where it was eaten by a Bird.
Poor old muzby, been talking in tongue’s for years and now confused as to whether he wants to tell a fable or a parable.
Save your message for Sunday school champ and get the kids to say a prayer for you so you might concentrate a little harder when reading and interpreting posts.
You need help and lots of it.
 
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Poor old muzby, been talking in tongue’s for years and now confused as to whether he wants to tell a fable or a parable.
Save your message for Sunday school champ and get the kids to say a prayer for you so you might concentrate a little harder when reading and interpreting posts.
You need help and lots of it.
I
have to admit OT I thought it was quite funny lol
 

Old Timer

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have to admit OT I thought it was quite funny lol
Yeah but you are a basket case and take lots of drugs so quite understandable that you would.
Now any perfectly reasonable person like myself or DP would think that muzby trying to be humorous would be akin to stepping in hot dog shit so should be avoided at all cost.
Suggest that you wash your feet before you put your funny little socks and clown shoes on.
Talking of taking drugs and feet, I had to have a medical procedure done the other day called of all things a "TOE" Trans Oesophageal Electro cardiogram.
They drug you up and you have to swallow a tube with a probe on the end of it and the take readings and pictures of your heart.
Just after they drug you up they get you put a tube in your mouth which they tape around the back of your head and it has 2 purposes (1 so you don't bust any teeth 2 allows the probe to slide up and down without busting your oesophagus)
Just as I started to nod off I had a memory flash of the Bring out the Gimp scene with Butch & Marsellus in Pulp Fiction.
Spooky stuff and right up their with a Mc Fookknuckle presser.
 

Dragsters

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Well said....The press have unfairly made him into their whipping boy.....plenty of other halves who are much worse on similar money.

I remember Brent Reid going hard on Hunt on NRL 360 during our post origin slide.

Banging on about the mooted 1.2m and he's mentally weak not worth the money etc. if I recall.

I thought to myself, you don't even know what could be going on with him but your happy to bag him on TV to push your article in the paper the next day.

Scum of the earth some journos and in hindsight it seems that label is justified...
 
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Dragons 09

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If we didn't have Benny i reckon we are 16th on the ladder right now or at the very least, our for and against would be a triple digit negative. He leads the Golden Serbs easily and i wouldn't be surprised if he was one of the clubs better performing players in the Dally M's and "players player" points. When looking for answers to our current woes, Benny's name doesn't even warrant a mention.
 
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Yeah but you are a basket case and take lots of drugs so quite understandable that you would.
Now any perfectly reasonable person like myself or DP would think that muzby trying to be humorous would be akin to stepping in hot dog shit so should be avoided at all cost.
Suggest that you wash your feet before you put your funny little socks and clown shoes on.
Talking of taking drugs and feet, I had to have a medical procedure done the other day called of all things a "TOE" Trans Oesophageal Electro cardiogram.
They drug you up and you have to swallow a tube with a probe on the end of it and the take readings and pictures of your heart.
Just after they drug you up they get you put a tube in your mouth which they tape around the back of your head and it has 2 purposes (1 so you don't bust any teeth 2 allows the probe to slide up and down without busting your oesophagus)
Just as I started to nod off I had a memory flash of the Bring out the Gimp scene with Butch & Marsellus in Pulp Fiction.
Spooky stuff and right up their with a Mc Fookknuckle presser.
I’ve got nothing lol
 
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Yep I forgot about Johnson actually

They spend very little on their wingers and bench/forwards I would say. Jmoz and Prior surely wouldn't be on much, and Gal has his long service discount or whatever it is

Bet they're spewing with Dugan taking up 800 though

The full paper bags may have something to do with it
 

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