best band of all time

[CliffyIsGod]

How did this thread turn into one about this joke?

 

[HevyDevy]

Because I dared suggest that The Beatles weren't the best band of all time

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

Who of course have all gone on to shape music history with their own bands ...

Maybe some of them did.

 

[Balmain_Boy]

You're being objective? For f**k's sake mate, you've brought up Devin Townsend in a best band of all time thread. That is not objective.

On any objective measure, the Beatles emerge as number 1. It's undeniable. All the bands you've mentioned would agree on that.

 

[HevyDevy]

I never proclaimed Dev as being on my list of best bands but I am pleased that the mention of his name has invoked a reaction from so many.

He is merely one of my personal favourites.

I will never understand how, when someone asks you to name the best band of all time, you can possible give one definitive answer. There is none. It's not The Beatles, it's not Led Zeppelin, it's no-one. There is no best band. Impossible.

So, I'll recap, on any objective measure NOBODY emerges as number one.

 

[Ari Gold]

Simply put, the Beatles are a household name around the world, Devin Townsend is.... who is Devin Townsend again?

BTW, album/singles sales are as good a barometer as any.

The fact is that you can't have a best band ever discussion and not include the Beatles.

You can have it without Devin Townsend though.

ps No, I don't have any Darkthrone, Sting and Porcupine Tree and not having them doesn't concern me in the slightest.

You're pretentious....

Album/Singles sales mean jacksh*t... because if that was the case, Ashlee Simpson/Aaron Carter etc. would be actually considered talented musicians.

However i agree with everything else you have said in this thread

 

[hrundi99]

Album sales are an element of a band's success/greatness. If a band sells ten records then they can't really be seen as universally popular. By the same token, album sales cannot be used as the singular measure of quality.

What's so difficult about this debate?

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

What the hell has music got to do with objectivity. Music forums are a ridiculous idea in the first place. No-one has ever been or ever will be right.

 

[hrundi99]

What the hell has music got to do with objectivity. Music forums are a ridiculous idea in the first place. No-one has ever been or ever will be right.

Anyone with common-sense should be able to stand back from their personal CD collection and acknowledge that The Beatles are the best band of all time, whether they hate them or not.

 

[HevyDevy]

And again, Hrundi, define 'best'

 

[hrundi99]

Combination of:
Popularity (record sales and critical success)
Cultural influence
Influence on other "quality" musicians/bands/acts
Innovation
Consistency of material
Timelessness of material (sustained popularity)
etc...

 

[HevyDevy]

Unfortunately a number of those factors come down to opinion, while there are potentially hundreds of other factors that could be incorporated on top of those.

It's simple, there is no best band.

 

[hrundi99]

Unfortunately a number of those factors come down to opinion, while there are potentially hundreds of other factors that could be incorporated on top of those.

It's simple, there is no best band.

Yes but the opinions of the majority of those in the music and entertainment industry are in the Beatles favour.

You're entitled to your opinions, but the majority disagree with you.

 

[HevyDevy]

The music and entertainment industry is a disgrace, nobody should base what they listen to on what the music and entertainment industry says they should listen to. Unfortunately, many do - thus the very poor nature of modern 'popular' music

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

Anyone with common-sense should be able to stand back from their personal CD collection and acknowledge that The Beatles are the best band of all time, whether they hate them or not.

That doesn't make any sense.

If you don't personally like The Beatles then you are entitled to say that they are not the best band of all time. Otherwise it becomes a pointless popularity contest.

It's like saying you think Andrew Johns is hopeless, then saying he is the best player in the world.

 

[HevyDevy]

Thankyou Thierry and well done on scoring twice the other day.

I just find it remarkable that anyone can single out a best band of all time. Really, really, really .... remarkable

 

[Kiwi]

The irony is that I've only done Karaoke once and I did Hey Jude.

However, I would like to point out too, Hrundi, that I and a few other people said that naming the best band of all time was impossible because it depended upon your interpretation yet all you've done is insist that your interpretation is the correct one.

I made two simple points that seem to have ruffled your feathers:

1) If best means most influential then The Beatles deserve to be mentioned.
2) If it means something else, such as technical ability, then they do not.

If this was the case then the genre one should be looking in would probably be more towards the classical

 

[HevyDevy]

Yeah possibly, or perhaps Jazz. Jazz drummers tend to be stunning. When they cross over into other genres, such as Danny Carey of Tool, you can pick them in an instant.

But then in most genres there are exceptional musicians as well as plenty of turd

 

[Kiwi]

Yeah possibly, or perhaps Jazz. Jazz drummers tend to be stunning. When they cross over into other genres, such as Danny Carey of Tool, you can pick them in an instant.

But then in most genres there are exceptional musicians as well as plenty of turd

I feel if you are talking technique and pure ability then Classical and your right probably Jazz leave these bands mentioned for dead. Most people are choosing personal favourites ahead of common sense.

 

[Balmain_Boy]

Combination of:
Popularity (record sales and critical success)
Cultural influence
Influence on other "quality" musicians/bands/acts
Innovation
Consistency of material
Timelessness of material (sustained popularity)
etc...

Exactly. Beatles are just about number 1 in every category.