What's new
The Front Row Forums

Register a free account today to become a member of the world's largest Rugby League discussion forum! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Big News - 6 about to be dropped

Benek

Juniors
Messages
1,974
This situation is getting worse and worse!

But at least we're not the Eels right? That's brutal.
 

Juju

Juniors
Messages
1,712
The news just gets sadder really doesn't it… lurching from one development to the next… Manu's legacy in tatters...
 
Messages
11,293
In tatters.
Its totally fugged now

Now the focus is on player welfare, so hopefully Manu gets himself sorted. Football is irrelavant now
 

JoeD

First Grade
Messages
7,056
Can easily see it happening and I'm surprised its not more prevalent. Continuously injured, continuously encouraged to play through the pain, continuously given pain killers to make it possible. In terms of his 'legacy' this might be the saving grace for Manu - not an idiot looking for a quick buzz, but an addict who needs help.
 

spear tackle

Juniors
Messages
1,176
So now I am hearing they were taking prescription painkillers and Red Bull not sleeping pills.

Does anyone know a source for this?

The source for pain killers? Your doctor ,if not a local illicit drug dealer should be able to sort you out for an agreed price.
 

WithTheDawn

Juniors
Messages
897
Bloody hell, what is going on here? Just bad news every day lately. Hopefully big Manu can get well and back to his old form. Right call giving him time off if that is what he needs.

But yeah, better than how the Eels must be feeling right now...
 

vvvrulz

Coach
Messages
13,625
Feel for the guy, seems like a genuine good bloke albeit a complete idiot when it comes to handling social media. Doesn't excuse the rest of the morons, and in fact puts them in even worse light if Manu had a genuine problem and they all sat with him and got high.

I'm glad it's out and I'm glad he's on the sideline now, Manu can fix his problems and the Warriors can keep on task on the field.
 

sup42

Juniors
Messages
2,466
Sorry, I don't agree with this.
We had a proven coach in Cleary, he led us to the GF. We then had a proven coach in Bluey who coached 2 teams in bartercard cup victories, won the tri-series with the Kiwis and also had superleague success. Then we had Elliot who won the SL, took another team to the GF and also lead Penrith to second or third as well.

Theres only so many coaches that can fail until you need to look for alternatives.
Right now we have found the cause of the problem. These tweets, this going out and mixing prescription drugs with energy drinks, missing/late to a teem meeting. Was this McFaddens doing? NO

McFadden may not be a proven coach, but he has brought good players in. RTS is class, sadly got injured. We all know what Luke is capable. Ayshford looks to have been a great pick up. Robson was a good signing on merit, fairly cheap I'd imagine. I just hope he doesn't block the path of a Hingano or Lino. Lane has potential, as does Sao.

I'm not saying McFadden is a good coach by any means, nor am I entirely confident he will be the man to lead us to a maiden title, but he needs a damned chance. He needs more of a chance than we gave Bluey, he needs more of a chance we gave Elliot. If we get rid of McFadden and not the players, what kind of message does that send out? What 'proven' Coach will want to move across the ditch, to a club who already has a concerning record of sacking coaches, in an attempt to get the best out of a bunch who seem to acting like petulant teenagers.

Sacking the coach, and hiding this issue under the rug and moving on won't help.
There needs to be change, and while I understand the 'sacking the coach' arguement, but it is not the answer.

We need to draw a line here.

If we were to punt these players, really what have we lost? Lane, Palavi, Sipley, Lousi, Gubb made an alright show of it. Big Ali is killing it from all reports and then theres ones like Bunty Afoa who won't be far off

Outside backs we're doing alright with Fusitua, Allwood, Ayshford, Kata, Lolohea, Wells on board, not to mention Lolohea.

Look at what these guys have actually been achieving on field

Hurrell - Sporadic interchange appearances.
Vatuvei - 30yr old winger, who seems to be getting injured more
Matulino - Potentially in the best 5 props in the game, on his day. On his day. We havn't had one of those days in a while.
Thompson - Earned a starting spot last year, however this year he has also seemed to have dropped off a wee bit
Vete/Lisone - Both have recently started, both appear to have huge futures. These are the two that I'd accept another chance.

FWIW, I wouldn't be opposed to keeping Vete, Lisone, Matulino and Thompson but have them on a final notice. Hurrell and Vatuvei should go, you can't have a player publicly suggest the players aren't behind the coach, and you can't have another player telling fans to not have an opinion and carry on the way he has.
The best articulated argument I have read on the boards in years....and not because I agree.

I think that it is behove upon the Warriors to try to sign a better coach than Cappy.

However I also suspect no such individual would come near this place with a ten foot barge pole.

Think about it, you are a Super coach and you know the Warriors flaws intimately from a Tsun Szu art of war point of view "know the enemy like you know yourself and you need not fear defeat in one hundred battles "


I mean to say....we think we know their flaws...and none of us are trained at the Westpoint of coaching.


How ugly would the up and down leaky edge lazy markers Warriors look to the trained eye ?

how circus like would our many ways to hand possession to the opposition look ?

How unattractive is a team that concedes the most eighteen point leads in NRL history look?

How motivated would you be to find the answer to the slow season starts mystery ?

How excited would you be to have a chance to throw out all your structured game plans to fit in with instinctive Warrior stars like Johnson et al ?

How would your cap ledger look when a winger is in your top five highest paid players.
 
Last edited:

Penrose Warrior

First Grade
Messages
9,467
I'm prepared to cut Manu a break if he's going through some personal/mental stuff. It's often hard to do so after an incident like last week - as opposed to Foran who did not run into any trouble - but given Manu went his first 10 years at the club without incident, he's probably got runs on the board.

That doesn't change the fact that I think his time at the club is/should be coming to an end.
 

SpaceMonkey

Immortal
Messages
40,574
Can easily see it happening and I'm surprised its not more prevalent. Continuously injured, continuously encouraged to play through the pain, continuously given pain killers to make it possible. In terms of his 'legacy' this might be the saving grace for Manu - not an idiot looking for a quick buzz, but an addict who needs help.

I agree- I've got if anything even more respect for him if that's what has transpired. I hope all the people lining up to throw him under the bus back the f**k off right away.
 

Penrose Warrior

First Grade
Messages
9,467
On the coach, and possible replacements, sup is right - most coaches wouldn't want to touch it with a barge pole...but I think the biggest thing to keep in mind is that any good or great coach would also have to relocate across the Tasman to take on the giant clusterf**k that is us.

A Kiwi, however, might say 'yeah I'll take this on, I'd be a national hero'. Trouble is, there's no great Kiwi coaches.
 

Penrose Warrior

First Grade
Messages
9,467
That's exactly right.

I remind in Camp Doyle, however the amount of management speak and 'internal processes, no comment' sort of stuff he's been into in the last week hasn't impressed me. Especially if they were trying to cover up the prescription drugs etc initially.
 
Messages
11,293
I doubt they were covering up bro, more like getting all info interviewing everyone and talking to integrity unit. Funny thing is hardly any media have mentioned it in sydney.
 

Izz

Bench
Messages
3,925
That's exactly right.

I remind in Camp Doyle, however the amount of management speak and 'internal processes, no comment' sort of stuff he's been into in the last week hasn't impressed me. Especially if they were trying to cover up the prescription drugs etc initially.
I read it as less than 'let's cover this up,' and more like 'we've got a player(s) with a serious issue and he needs help, so let's try to get him his help without him becoming a public spectacle.' Whether that was the right way to go in that situation (if that is indeed what they were thinking), i don't know, and it didn't work anyway.
 

Latest posts

Top