Bondi United.

[Monk]

trolololol

 

[Kokora]

Wait, so which Kensington side is in the AR's comp?

We put nearly 60 on them a few weeks ago...

Kensington United....the original. We only go up to U/12s this year.

So.....did you score a try?.....what are the Navy Tridents like?...I watch them train at Garden Island sometimes

 

[adamkungl]

Navy had a decent game against us and came close, but are sitting close to the bottom of the table for some reason

 

[RWB]

Our junior rep teams gave the Dragons boys a good belting two weeks back... in 2 of the 3 games anyway.

 

[Kokora]

Our junior rep teams gave the Dragons boys a good belting two weeks back... in 2 of the 3 games anyway.

If your post had a "Like this" button I'd click on it

 

[H.H]

I've been involved with the club since 2003 and I think it formed in 2000. Basically there were a few families in the Kenso area who had kids that wanted to play League and didn't want to go to Mascot or away from the area. Kenso United at the time did not want to take on the responsibility of fielding teams that were under 16 years old, so two brothers got together and approached Souths juniors for a license to form a club. We almost merged with Kensington United last year but hard heads and egos on both sides didn't let this happen. We've worked hard to build this club from scratch and have won 5 competitions since entering.

Originally the club was affiliated with the St Spyridon Greek church in Kingsford (Hence the Saints name) but this didn't quite work so is now standalone. .
We changed our name from Saints to Kensington Saints this year tobe more indentifiable with the area. We wear Red and White Hoops. The two founders are Souffs supporters but most of the kids support the Roosters!. I wish we were affiliated with the Roosters but I don't think they want to spend the money.
As much as I don't like the Souths influence, the Souths Juniors have been very generous to us and in the end it's all about the kids playing footy.

Cheers for that.

Cannot believe KU's attitude towards taking on those kids.....ridiculous stuff. Shame they're not affiliated with Easts and it just goes to show what can be done if clubs are interested.

2 brothers can do this, so imagine what an NRL club do with their resources....pretty disapointing really.

 

[H.H]

Yeah it's a shame that Paddo Colts dont exist anymore because as you stated Paddington once had a very strong working class presence with a local rugby league side to represent it.
I will have to agree with you on Jim Dymock as both him & his brothers were both bought up down the housing commision estate down Wooloomooloo.
HH, if you get a chance look up a book titled Sunshine & Shadow written by Larry Writer as it's astory (true) based on the lives of James & Steven Dack (& sister Alison) who were bought up around Wooloomooloo & played in the old Easts comp & Steve went on to play grade for the Roosters whilst James has remained loyal in his support to the club to this day.
I collect old Rugby League jerseys & i would love to get my hands on one from Paddo Colts.

Well, I am in Swansea (Newcastle, my in laws live here) and I'm sitting in this random cafe having a skim cappuccino....there is a dusty old basket sitting there filled with about 10 books....I stick my hand in and the first book I pull out is Sunshine and Shadow.

Cafe was more than happy to give it to me (they have a book sharing club or something), so I'll give it a burl.

Amazing really, always had it in my mind that I wanted to read it since your post almost 2 years ago.

Will let you know what I think.

 

[bellyache]

Well, I am in Swansea (Newcastle, my in laws live here) and I'm sitting in this random cafe having a skim cappuccino....there is a dusty old basket sitting there filled with about 10 books....I stick my hand in and the first book I pull out is Sunshine and Shadow.

Cafe was more than happy to give it to me (they have a book sharing club or something), so I'll give it a burl.

Amazing really, always had it in my mind that I wanted to read it since your post almost 2 years ago.

Will let you know what I think.

Freaky stuff HH..

 

[rightleftin]

Fairly sure Moore Park, Kensington, Coogee-Randwick, Coogee Dolphins used to be in the Easts comp...decades ago.

Moore Park commenced in SSJRL in 1911. Won its first A Grade premiership in 1928 when they entered 2 A Grade teams and the 2nd team won. In the same year they entered a 3rd A Grade team in the AHC Guild and won that as well.

Kensington certainly was an ES club, originally as the "Rovers", a team from the the ES Protestant Churches competition, which took over the ESJRL in the 1926 and 1927. Kenso teams played in ES from 1926-1933 by which time they were Kensington United. In 1934 they joined many other clubs from ES, SS, Newtown etc in the Metropolitan JRL. This competition had started as the AHC Guild (Catholic Association) in 1915 but as the number of teams diminished in the late 1920's they accepted all comers and changed name in 1931. So many teams left Souths that there was no A Grade in 1931. The NSWRL had imposed age limits on A Grade comps but the Metros were not affiliated and had no age or weight limits, running 3 open grades.

Coogee first played in ES in 1919 and Randwick in 1924. Both Coogee and Randwick had C Grade teams in ES in 1935.

 

[rightleftin]

Participation in the ESJRL peaked in 1952 when 17 teams played in the A Grade. The ladders were:

A Grade
Waterside Workers 38, Club Celebrity 32, Charing Cross 30, Royal Dragons 30, Bondi Utd 26, Bondi RSL 21, Bondi Junction RSL 21, Bing & Swing 19, Avalon 19, Woollahra Waratah 18, Olympians 16, Waverley Jnrs 15, Grahame Memorial 10, Fire Brigades 10, Clovelly 10, Paddo Colts 9, Oakleigh 6

B Grade
Paddo Colts 31, Clovelly 28, Woollahra Waratah 28, Bondi Utd 15, Bondi Jnrs 14

C Grade
Woollahra Waratah 32, Police Boys 28, Clovelly 20, Paddo Colts 18, Bronte 16, Bondi Utd 12, Rose Bay 10

The minor premiers won B & C grade but Club Celebrity, with 10 guys who had or would play 1st Grade, upset the Wharfies.

 

[H.H]

Wow - where did you pull all of that information from? I have heard the stories about how big that A Grade comp used to be at that time. The better sides were about reserve grade standard I believe.

Bing and Swing were an old Balmain Junior club of the time. My mum had brothers and cousins etc who played for them. Avalon also Northern Beaches so interesting they came over to play. Any other information you have, please send it on.

 

[rightleftin]

Wow - where did you pull all of that information from? I have heard the stories about how big that A Grade comp used to be at that time. The better sides were about reserve grade standard I believe.

Bing and Swing were an old Balmain Junior club of the time. My mum had brothers and cousins etc who played for them. Avalon also Northern Beaches so interesting they came over to play. Any other information you have, please send it on.

I have been researching the history of Junior League over the last few years. A South Sydney life member named Tom Brock bequested his collection, which ended up in the State Library - it includes a few issues of the ESDJRL weekly news from the 1950's and more than 30 years of weekly programs from the South Sydney JRL.

There were some odd names for teams - Avalon was an ES club not the northern beaches suburb. "Cairo" played A Grade from 1947-1951 and won the competition in 1950. Canberra Royals played in 1959-1960 but it was a pub in Paddington.

The Bing & Swing Social Club had teams in both the Balmain and ES comps. They played in Balmain in 1949-1954 and won A Grade in 1949, 1950 and 1954. The Daily Telegraph stated that the club was going to present a premiership blazer to its patron, Bing Crosby. They played in ES 1951-1955 but were far less successful than the Balmain side. It was reported that many of the players in the Balmain B & S team had come from the disbanded St James Sports Club, which won a number of A Grade & C Grade titles between 1933 and 1946.

Club Celebrity only existed for 1951 and 1952 but they won the title in both seasons. In 1952 they played ES Reserve Grade on the bye weekend and won 23-16. International, Jack Spencer, was captain coach, and Ray Lindwall's brother, Jack was also in the side, while among the 7 younger players that played 1st Grade, was supercoach, Jack Gibson. Celebrity's captain-coach in 1951 was former NSW forward, Jack Walsh while one of the other strong sides, Waverley Juniors had 3 ex 1st Graders. Charing Cross also had an international prop, Jim Armstrong.

In 1952, only 500 people turned up to the Sydney Sportsground to watch Easts vs Canterbury but the next day 5000 turned up to watch the Wharfies. The lead writer at the Herald had heard about these crowds so he went and wrote in the paper that 5 players from the Wharfies would walk into any 1st Grade team in Sydney. The Bookies would turn up and the big punters were giving bonuses to the star players such that there were better paid than 1st Graders.

 

[H.H]

Great stuff and yeah, I am familiar with alot of that and recall that Jack Gibson was thereabouts when that was all happeneing and my reserve grade reference was a vague memory but it was definitely that game you mention that was in my mind.

Love this stuff, anything else you have happy to hear it.

 

[rightleftin]

There was no A Grade from 1936-1945

1945
B Grade - Grahame Memorial, Double Bay Recreation, Waverley, Five Ways, North Bondi, Paddo Eureka
C Grade - YMCA, Double Bay, Police Boys, Grahame Memorial, Randwick Jnrs, Woollahra Jnrs, Mill Hill, Rose Bay

Premiers - Double Bay Recreation & Woollahra Jnrs

1946
A Grade
Waverley Jnrs 27, Bondi Utd 24, Grahame Memorial 22, Waterside Workers 20, Bronte 19, Clovelly 13, North Bondi 12, Shamrocks 9, Double Bay 9, Rose Bay 8, Fitzroy 5

B Grade - Grahame Memorial, Double Bay, Coogee Randwick, Bronte, Clovelly, YMCA, Woollahra, Waverley Jnrs

C Grade - Grahame Memorial 1, Grahame Memorial 2, YMCA 1, YMCA 2, East Sydney, Double Bay Waratah, Waverley Old Boys, Randwick Jnrs, ALP, Maroubra, Woollahra Jnrs, Police Boys, Bellevue Jnrs

Premiers - Waverley Jnrs, Grahame Memorial and C Grade was null & void.

1947
A Grade - Fitzroy 30, Clovelly 28, Waterside Workers 26, Charing Cross 24, Cairo 24, Bondi Utd 19, Unicorns 16, Waverley Jnrs 16, Bondi RSL 12, Bondi Waverley Legion 12, North Bondi 6, Grahame Memorial 6

Premiers - Fitzroy with Bondi Utd winning B & C Grade

1948
A Grade
Waverley Jnrs 36, Fitzroy 32, Bondi RSL 30, Cairo 25, Bondi Utd 25, Charing Cross 24, Grahame Memorial 22, Waterside Workers 22, Olympians 18, Clovelly 13, Bronte 13, Unicorns 12, Bondi Legion 6

Premiers - Waverley Jnrs, Bronte Surf and Rose Bay 1. There were 8 teams in B Grade and 16 in C Grade making 37 in 3 grades.

1949
A Grade
Charing Cross 30, Waterside Workers 26, Bondi Utd 26, Waverley Jnrs 23, Bondi Beach 20, Bondi Junction RSL 19, Cairo 19, Bondi RSL 18, Grahame Memorial 17, Bronte 16, Oakleigh 10, Olympia 10, Rose Bay 6, Woollahra Jnrs 4, Bondi Legion 4. Clovelly also entered but lost the first 4 games and then withdrew.

Premiers - Charing Cross & Woollahra Jnrs & Rose Bay

C Grade - Randwick Shamrocks, Randwick Jnrs, Rose Bay, Grahame Memorial, Fernleigh, Ocean Waratah, Bondi Utd, Clovelly, Bronte, Bondi Jnrs.

 

[H.H]

May be a stretch, but do you have a list of all Easts A Grade premiers?

 

[rightleftin]

May be a stretch, but do you have a list of all Easts A Grade premiers?

A Grade
1910 Darlinghurst
1911 Darlinghurst
1912 Rushcutters Bay
1913 Darlinghurst
1914 Double Bay
1915 Paddo Waratah
1916-18 only B Grade comp
1919 Paddo Olives
1920 Paddo Olives
1921 East Sydney Fitzroys
1922 Rushcutters Bay
1923 Rose Bay
1924 Paddo Olives
1925 Darlington Utd
1926 Paddo Olives*
1927 Unknown* - Olives and St George's were the leading teams
1928 Paddo Olives
1929 Paddo Olives
1930 Oakleigh (won A, B & C Grades)
1931 Oakleigh
1932 Grahame Memorial Hall
1933 Grahame Memorial Hall
1934 Grahame Memorial Hall
1935 Oakleigh
1936-1945 only B & C Grade
1946 Waverley Jnrs
1947 Fitzroys
1948 Waverley Jnrs
1949 Charing Cross
1950 Cairo
1951 Club Celebrity
1952 Club Celebrity
1953 Royal Dragons
1954 Waterside Workers
1955 Bondi Royals
1956 Bondi Royals
1957 Woollahra Waratah
1958 Woollahra Waratah
1959 Woollahra Waratah
1960 London Tavern
1961 no competitions
1962 Bondi Utd
1963 London Tavern
1964 London Tavern
1965 only C Grade comp
1966 no competitions
1967 Paddo Colts
1968 Paddo Colts
1969 Bondi Utd
1970 Clovelly
1971 Clovelly
1972 Paddo Colts
1973 Exchange Hotel
1974 Paddo Colts
1975 Paddo Colts
1976 Paddo Colts
1977 Bondi Utd
1978 Paddo Colts
1979 Bondi Utd
1980 Double Bay
1981-1995 I need help on this.

* The competitions in 1926 and 1927 were run by the Eastern Suburbs Rugby Association (not affiliated with the NSWRL), with most of the teams formerly part of the Eastern Suburbs Protestant Churches Association and a minority of teams from the ESDJRL. Consequently, the NSWRL annual report states that no competitions were conducted by the ESDJRL, however in both 1926 and 1927 Easts had a team in the Presidents Cup picked from the clubs playing B Grade in the South Sydney competition - in 1926 Oakleigh & Fitzroys, while in 1927 it was only Oakleigh, which won the SS B Grade in both seasons and in fact playing as Easts in 1927 won the Presidents Cup.

Oakleigh and Fitzroys were clubs that had been part of the City and Suburban Rugby competition when Dally Messenger was playing for Double Bay Warrigals. Dally's brother, Wally in the ESDJRL for Double Bay in 1910 as well as Combined NSW Juniors before also becoming an international. Oakleigh switched to Rugby League in 1908 and rebadged itself as Sydney District and won the 3rd Grade competition at first attempt. A few years later when Sydney applied to join the 1st Grade comp, Easts supported the application even though they would lose area, unlike Newtown when Marrickville applied and Wests, who opposed the entry of St George, Canterbury and Parramatta as each was carved out of its area.

 

[rightleftin]

B Grade

1910 Paddo Waratah
1911 Darlinghurst
1912 Womerah
1913 Melrose
1914 Sydney Jnrs
1915 Kia Ora
1916 Rockleigh
1917 Sydney Jnrs
1918 Paddo Jnrs
1919 Paddo Jnrs
1920 Paddo Jnrs
1921 Darlinghurst Olympia
1922 Oxford Jnrs
1923 Paddo Jnrs
1924 Darlinghurst Olympia
1925 Darlinghurst Olympia
1926 Redfern Utd
1927 unknown - Olympia were leading
1928 Oakleigh
1929 Fitzroy
1930 Oakleigh
1931 Fitzroy
1932 Paddo Jnrs
1933 Paddo Jnrs
1934 unknown
1935 Oakleigh
1936 East Sydney
1937 Grahame Memorial
1938 Antonians
1939-40 unknown
1941 Police Boys
1942 no comp
1943 Grahame Memorial
1944 no comp
1945 Double Bay Recreation
1946 Grahame Memorial
1947 Bondi Utd
1948 Bronte Surf Club
1949 Woollahra Jnrs
1950 Bondi Beach
1951 Bronte
1952 Paddo Colts
1953 Paddo Colts
1954 unknown
1955 Bondi Royals
1956 Woollahra Waratah
1957 Bondi Utd 1
1958-1961 no comp
1962 Charing Cross
1963 Bondi Utd
1964 Bondi Utd
1965-69 no comp
1970 Kings Cross RSL
1971 no comp
1972 Paddo Colts
1973 ES Catholic Club
1974 Bondi Utd
1976 Clovelly
1977 unknown
1978 Bondi Utd
1979 Bondi Utd
1980 Bondi Utd


A Reserve Grade

1967 Bondi Utd
1968 Double Bay
1969 Clovelly

 

[rightleftin]

C Grade

1912 Albion
1913 Darlinghurst
1914 Boys Brigade
1915-1922 no comp
1923 Oxford Jnrs
1924 Oakleigh Waratah
1925 Fitzroy
1926 Woollahra
1927 unknown - Bronte & Redfern Utd the leading teams
1928 Fitzroy
1929 Fitzroy
1930 Oakleigh
1931 Paddo Jnrs
1932 Oakleigh
1933 Paddo Jnrs
1934 unknown
1935 East Sydney Jnrs
1936 East Sydney Jnrs
1937 Police Boys Rotary
1938 East Sydney Jnrs
1939 unknown
1940 Grahame Memorial
1941 East Sydney Jnrs
1942 Waverley Jnrs
1943 Waverley Jnrs
1944 Waverley Jnrs
1945 Woollahra Jnrs
1946 null & void
1947 Bondi Utd
1948 Rose Bay 1
1949 Rose Bay
1950 Bondi Jnrs
1951 Paddo Colts
1952 Woollahra Waratah
1953 Police Boys
1954 Bondi Utd
1955 Bondi Royals
1956 Avalon
1957 Bondi Utd
1958 no comp
1959 Denison Dragons
1960 Bronte
1961 no comp
1962 Bondi Utd
1963 Paddo Colts
1964 Bondi Utd
1965 Bondi Utd
1966 no comp
1967 Clovelly
1968 Clovelly
1969 Bondi Sharks
1970 unknown
1971 Paddo Colts
1972 Clovelly
1973 Bondi Utd
1974 Clovelly
1975 Bondi Utd
1976 ES Catholic Club
1977 unknown
1978 Bondi Utd
1979 Bondi Utd
1980 Bondi Utd

 

[H.H]

Wow, thought there'd be no hope you'd have all that. I can help with a small few of the post 1981 stuff:

A Grade
1985 - Bondi United
1990 - Nelson Hotel
1991 - Nelson Hotel
1993 - Bondi Royals

I'm sure Clovelly Won a couple of titles around the 1982 - 1984 time but I can't confirm

B Grade
1994 - Paddo Colts

C Grade
1981 - Paddo Colts
1989 - Bondi United

 

[rightleftin]

Wow, thought there'd be no hope you'd have all that. I can help with a small few of the post 1981 stuff:

A Grade
1985 - Bondi United
1990 - Nelson Hotel
1991 - Nelson Hotel
1993 - Bondi Royals

I'm sure Clovelly Won a couple of titles around the 1982 - 1984 time but I can't confirm

B Grade
1994 - Paddo Colts

C Grade
1981 - Paddo Colts
1989 - Bondi United

thanks mate - Re 1994 Easts teams played in South Sydney comps in B & C Grade - In B Grade, Paddo Colts won the minor premiership with 24 pts and then won the GF. In C Grade, Bondi Utd finished on 27 pts, one behind Maroubra but won the GF.