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Boring Kicks For Boring Tries

DeeJ

Bench
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For me it drives me nuts as Newcastle are the worst team at getting results from kicks.

Although I get more annoyed with us being not so good at it rather than teams being good at it.

I think Brisbane are even worse. Whenever there is a bomb to the corner out wingers and centers have no hope and the only tries we get off aerial kicks have been fumbled by the defence.
 

gaterooze

Bench
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3,037
Charge downs should not be counted as knock-ons under any circumstances, nor should they restart the tackle count. This would reward charge down experts like Price for their hard work, and also make kicking a little more dangerous and easier to defend.
 

Manu Vatuvei

Coach
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Bombs should just be banned completely.

It's ridiculous when a team throws everything at a defensive line for 5 tackles and don't look like scoring at all, then put up a bomb (automatic 50/50 chance) and score. The suggestion that tall wingers who can leap will become the most dangerous weapons in the game worries me, because being tall and leaping have nothing to do with rugby league- I don't want our game to be swallowed up to such an extent by parts of AFL and basketball.

Tries from bombs are just complete nonsense tbh.
 

gregstar

Referee
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20,465
yep - if the dragons win a grand final from a boring try from a boring kick, i'll be beside myself with grief.

i won't recognize the result & hopefully neither will the nrl.




btw, i'm sure ainscough agrees.
 

Mr Saab

Referee
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27,762
Get hold of the Melbourne v Tigers game just on and tell me Slater's try from the kick was anything other than brilliant.

Deserved 6 points for the try only.


Exactly. Too many people want the game changed when there is really nothing wrong with it. Too many dinosaurs from the 80s commentate on the game
 

Ice777

Bench
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Bombs should just be banned completely.

Tries from bombs are just complete nonsense tbh.

A bit like your call for bombs to be banned altogether. If a team happens to have taller wingers then why shouldn't they be able to utilise them to the best of their abilities?
 

Snoop

Coach
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11,716
In the last month we've seen Billy Slater's try last night and Israel's try in SoO III, two of the most specky tries this season. It's part of the game and any of these proposed changes are simply outrageous. If you don't want tries scored from kicks then learn how to defend them better.
 

Snoz

Juniors
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343
need to reward the defending team more for a catch on the full by

* any catch on the full in goal and up to 5m out results in a 40m tap
 

stuke

Bench
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In the Parra v Bunnies game Feleti Mateo kicked on the first tackle for Hayne to score in the corner because he could see that was the best way to get the ball out there quickly and that Souths had come rushing up to defend the pass. why would you want to punish that vision?
 

Manu Vatuvei

Coach
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If a team happens to have taller wingers then why shouldn't they be able to utilise them to the best of their abilities?

lol @ "happens to"

Being tall + being able to leap high to catch the high ball= not fundamental rugby league skills

These things are fundamental basketball and AFL skills

It's an unfortunate truth about rugby league that the rules of our game allow minor, peripheral skills to potentially completely dominate the point scoring

I like rugby league because it combines strength, speed, general athleticism and awareness, and ball skills. If I liked high flyin', ball catchin', tall guy action, I'd follow AFL

It's pretty imperative imo that where a sport's rules allow teams to repeatedly exploit something that can't properly be defended against, and which is not fundamentally a part of the game as it was meant to be played, then it absolutely should be legislated against
 

camsmith

Juniors
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Is it just me, or do the same teams just rely on thier kicking ability to score tries instead of thier footwork ability? ie: Melbourne 90% of thier tries are off the back of cronks boot....this is why footy can get boring!!! :x

Do you have anything to back that up?

I'm sure the NRL show on fox had a stat showing how many tries each team scored from kicks and Melbourne weren't in the top 4. (roosters at top IIRC).
 

Corusant

Juniors
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28
You think teams are concerned at how boring the game is?? They are there to win games & premierships, if teams score many tries off kicks then why not use them??
 

salivor

First Grade
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9,804
I don't mind the attacking kicks, it's always been a part of the game so why tinker with what has worked for 100 years? It's hardly a new thing either, Canterbury's tactics in the 80's or the Sharks of the late 90's who knew virtually no other way of scoring tries.

At least these days we've got some genuine freaks that can actually make some use of these kicks and make it a genuine attacking option rather than say a decade ago when it was just a lazy option for teams with no creativity.
 

salivor

First Grade
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9,804
Being tall + being able to leap high to catch the high ball= not fundamental rugby league skills

Welcome to the modern game. The reality is these days that the only 2 positions that require any football skills are hooker and halfback. Every other position can be filled with big tall fast zombie athletes.
 

Shorty

Moderator
Staff member
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lol @ "happens to"

Being tall + being able to leap high to catch the high ball= not fundamental rugby league skills

So what?
It's called,the modern game - If you don't like it perhaps you should go watch AFL then...or better yet Union because you obvious don't enjoy seeing exciting athleticism.
People are just whingers,there's nothing wrong with it.
I find bash/bash/bash/bash/flop over the tryline boring,and that's using the fundamental skills of RL but that's just me..I wouldn't have it any other way either.
 

ozjet1

Guest
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841
players, and hence defenders, are bigger than what they were. yet the field width remains the same. gaps today are smaller which makes it harder to penetrate the defence.

expanding the field width should sort out this BS repetitive kicking business.
 
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